Garage blown my engine - where do I stand?

Garage blown my engine - where do I stand?

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cayman-black

12,646 posts

216 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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That just sounds like a normal 996 engine!

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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cayman-black said:
That just sounds like a normal 996 engine!
And Boxter... And Cayman... And early 997...

PositronicRay

27,019 posts

183 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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Ayahuasca said:
Would blocking the exhaust have any effect?
I'd give money to someone try. eek

Efbe

9,251 posts

166 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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Updates OP?

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

255 months

Wednesday 19th November 2014
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Ayahuasca said:
Poor Land Rover. But with a trailer on the back why not put it into top gear and drop the clutch?
It might work if the clutch and transmission were in perfect condition, or it could just break the transmission or burn the clutch out.

bosshog

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1,583 posts

276 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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So I went down to the garage this morning. They said they managed to stop the engine by blocking off the air before it burned all the oil.
Anyhow they had the head off the engine and one of the pistons is buggered and all the tapets for that piston are well hammered as well, so he said he'll be changing them and the injectors.

sandman77

2,415 posts

138 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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bosshog said:
So I went down to the garage this morning. They said they managed to stop the engine by blocking off the air before it burned all the oil.
Anyhow they had the head off the engine and one of the pistons is buggered and all the tapets for that piston are well hammered as well, so he said he'll be changing them and the injectors.
At their own cost?

skyrover

12,671 posts

204 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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what about all the bearings?

bosshog

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1,583 posts

276 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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well I presume he's only going to change the bearings on that piston upwards so to speak. He's a pretty honest chap so I can only hope he does the right thing. Either way its take years off the engine, but what can you do.

xRIEx

8,180 posts

148 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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bosshog said:
well I presume he's only going to change the bearings on that piston upwards so to speak. He's a pretty honest chap so I can only hope he does the right thing. Either way its take years off the engine, but what can you do.
I would assume it's the big end and main bearings which would suffer most from lack of oil/reduced oil pressure.

anonymous-user

54 months

Saturday 22nd November 2014
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bosshog said:
Either way its take years off the engine, but what can you do.
Sell sell sell!

skyrover

12,671 posts

204 months

Saturday 22nd November 2014
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NinjaPower said:
bosshog said:
Either way its take years off the engine, but what can you do.
Sell sell sell!
And give the problem to someone else?

Very charitable

aw51 121565

4,771 posts

233 months

Saturday 22nd November 2014
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bosshog said:
So I went down to the garage this morning. They said they managed to stop the engine by blocking off the air before it burned all the oil.
Anyhow they had the head off the engine and one of the pistons is buggered and all the tapets for that piston are well hammered as well, so he said he'll be changing them and the injectors.
They may have stopped the engine before it burned all its oil - but this might still have allowed time for some or all of the reciprocating items within the engine to become overstressed and damaged (and some damage has occured...) frown .

Any why is he changing the injectors? confused


skyrover said:
what about all the bearings?
A good point well made wink ; I assume (with assumption being the mother of all good mess-ups hehe ) that le garagiste has checked all the main and big end bearings and found them to be good? No pistons sitting higher or lower than its opposite number, for example? wink

And there are no marks on the crankshaft where the big end and main bearings have run dry and 'picked up' due to lack of oil during the "overspeed"? Ditto the small end bearings? If so then these items are OK to be re-used... What's that Skippy? They've not been checked? frown


It's not complicated - but I think it's too complicated for the mechanic working on this vehicle frown . I also hope my cynicism is misplaced and this works out OK smile .

I'd recommend a replacement engine from an accident-damaged vehicle in a scrappy, as the most cost-efficient way out of this for the mechanic... And shout OP, don't pay a penny towards this whatever happens.

bosshog

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1,583 posts

276 months

Wednesday 26th November 2014
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So the garage finally gets back to me. They say the engine has had it (no surprise) and that it needs a new engine. They will not pay for it and 'are seeking legal advice'

:-(


Looks like I will be speaking to my solicitor today.

BorkFactor

7,265 posts

158 months

Wednesday 26th November 2014
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Surely they have insurance for situations like this?

Buff Mchugelarge

3,316 posts

150 months

Wednesday 26th November 2014
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bosshog said:
So the garage finally gets back to me. They say the engine has had it (no surprise) and that it needs a new engine. They will not pay for it and 'are seeking legal advice'

:-(


Looks like I will be speaking to my solicitor today.
That is shocking!
I'm gutted for you OP, I imagine a decent solicitor will sort it very easily.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

205 months

Wednesday 26th November 2014
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bosshog said:
So the garage finally gets back to me. They say the engine has had it (no surprise) and that it needs a new engine. They will not pay for it and 'are seeking legal advice'

:-(


Looks like I will be speaking to my solicitor today.
What a bunch of no mark tts. Unleash the hounds.

GreatGranny

9,128 posts

226 months

Wednesday 26th November 2014
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BorkFactor said:
Surely they have insurance for situations like this?
Maybe they don't hence seeking legal advice.
Can't see how they are not liable.
They buggered the engine whilst in their care due to their negligence.

Anyone know the cost of a new engine for the 320d?

thatdude

2,655 posts

127 months

Wednesday 26th November 2014
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Well, since the vehicle was in their care and they should be "skilled in the art" (and are definatly trading and advertising as being skilled in the art), and you are definatly not (and make no such publication that you are a capable mechanic) then the fault lies with them.

Seek legal advice, claim back the costs of everything - not just the vehicle damage and loss, but also if you have had to take taxi's / buses / trains / hire a car etc etc, as they will cost more than the fuel you would have used on your usual commute etc.

If they are not being honest, do not be kind. There is a simple way the garage can handle it (sorry mate, we ruined you engine, we'll pay for it all) or there is a difficult way (you left the car with us, we worked on it, then it broke while we were working on it but in no way is it out fault, no no not at all); since they are making it difficult, fight fire with fire.


Chicane-UK

3,861 posts

185 months

Wednesday 26th November 2014
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Stick to your guns OP. I don't see how you should be liable for the fact they ruined your car in their care! Good luck.