RE: Audi RS6 Quattro Avant (C6): PH Heroes

RE: Audi RS6 Quattro Avant (C6): PH Heroes

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torres del paine

1,588 posts

221 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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I thought you lot hated Audis.

I don't get the appeal to be honest, they look good in a bland way but by all accounts they're unresolved turnips with major issues that invariably bite you on the bum. They're supposed to be dependable all-weather cars, aren't they?


soad

32,902 posts

176 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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torres del paine said:
I thought you lot hated Audis.

I don't get the appeal to be honest, they look good in a bland way but by all accounts they're unresolved turnips with major issues that invariably bite you on the bum. They're supposed to be dependable all-weather cars, aren't they?
S and RS range is good. driving

J4CKO

41,576 posts

200 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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soad said:
torres del paine said:
I thought you lot hated Audis.

I don't get the appeal to be honest, they look good in a bland way but by all accounts they're unresolved turnips with major issues that invariably bite you on the bum. They're supposed to be dependable all-weather cars, aren't they?
S and RS range is good. driving
To be fair, they do make a nice car but petrolheads dont like being told they are the best car ever by owners of company/leased diesel models and they do attract "a certain element", there is also some irrational hatred for them mixed in.

torres del paine

1,588 posts

221 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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I like them too, more so than some people on here, they're a nice alternative to the RWD Germans but isn't this RS6 supposed to be a bit of a dud?

Anyway, going against the grain, I like the current RS3, I think they make sense in this country.

405dogvan

5,328 posts

265 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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I had a job delivering cars from a bodyshop back to dealers for a while - some Bentleys, couple of Porsches and a lot of regular cars - and one of these (the C5 as pictured not the C6 as headered!)...

It remains the most impressive car I've driven for simply being

a - stupidly, mind-bogglingly fast
b - super-comfortable, great seats, super roomy
c - a real Q car (it was champagne with beige leather e.g. granny spec)

I need to emphasise the fast part tho - the only thing I drove with more shove was the Bentley Conti and there wasn't much in it - the Audi feeling more like it fitted modern roads too!

Edited by 405dogvan on Friday 21st November 14:44

P4ROT

1,219 posts

193 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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The first time I heard about this car was in The Times' Car supplement- I remember me and my father staring, open mouthed, at the predicted 450 bhp. At the time this seemed like an obscene amount of power for an estate car- how things change...

V8Wagon

1,707 posts

160 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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The stuff of my dreams. If I won the lottery I really can't think of a car I'd rather have. I love the understated menace of these.

A few years ago I owned a C5 S6 which I loved. Same bulging bodywork with a monster V8 upfront and an interior hewn from granite. I really loved that car.....I didn't love fuelling it, buying tyres for it and waiting for the gearbox to implode.

Its funny too.....back in the day I thought the oval tailpipes on these looked absolutely enormous, whereas now they appear quite sober.

sinbaddio

2,375 posts

176 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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"You’re born, you take st. Get out in the world, you take more st. Climb a little higher, take less st. Till one day you’re up in the rarified atmosphere and you’ve forgotten what st even looks like. Welcome to the layer cake, son."

Amirhussain

11,489 posts

163 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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sinbaddio said:
"You’re born, you take st. Get out in the world, you take more st. Climb a little higher, take less st. Till one day you’re up in the rarified atmosphere and you’ve forgotten what st even looks like. Welcome to the layer cake, son."
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Court_S

12,953 posts

177 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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I like these - they're a car that looks better in the flesh than in photos. These and the B5 RS4 still just look great. They're subtle but still have presence. Pretty rare too.

I think the potential bills would scare me too much (same with most RS cars once they are a few years old). A big bill on one of these is a big proportion of the purchase price now which is what I would struggle with.

oversteerer

104 posts

161 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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My £10K would go on either a CLS 55 AMG or an E55 AMG. They are faster, more exciting and more reliable than the Audi. Although these cars may not offer the same tactility or agility as a lightweight sports car, their addictive supercharged acceleration should surely appeal to anyone with a speed addiction.

urquattroGus

1,847 posts

190 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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My father still has his (after 10 years of ownership), he runs it alongside a C63 AMG estate for various reasons, like traction and a bit of an attachment to it.

My fondest memory is of when I Took the RS6 to Le Mans loaded up with stuff.

We then drove around the circuit just after the race, and five up we managed 130 something smile

rtz62

3,370 posts

155 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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"So it's essential that you only consider cherished examples packing a full service history and ideally get any potential purchase vetted by a specialist who can carry out a diagnostic check before parting with a penny. A timing belt service is a must every 35K miles (or three years) and an oil change every 5,000 miles. Other potential issues include various leaking seals, failing cam adjusters, blown MAFs, sagging bushes, cracked manifolds, leaking intercoolers, and split pipework. Not surprisingly the RS6 isn't universally popular with warranty companies, so find one that will cover the big items for a sensible premium will take a bit of leg work."

Hmmm, those self-same companies will also no doubt have their excuse book open at 'A' for Audi, licking their lips in anticipation at the punter who takes out a warranty for an RS6, and then attempts a warranty claim.
They will forensically examine the service history before the inevitable reply of 'fair wear and tear' emits forth.

I'd guess that anything that is high mileage (and what they class as that, as compared to you and I may be debated) or has anything other than a cast-iron service history with items attended to as you stated, may be dismissed out of hand?

Do any RS6 owners have experience of big claims and the battles they did or didn't have???

AC43

11,488 posts

208 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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urquattroGus said:
My father still has his alongside a C63 AMG estate
Good skills there :-)

carinaman

21,298 posts

172 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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VR6VR6 said:
That is a C5 (4.2 TT V8) not a C6 (5.0 TT V10).
At least the article has the C5 codename correct at the table at the bottom.

A great looking car even without the S bits.

Motorrad

6,811 posts

187 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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Sadly only a 7 out of 10 from me. I can think of more fun ways to rape my wallet if not faster ones.

Matt Bird

1,450 posts

205 months

PH Reportery Lad

Friday 21st November 2014
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VR6VR6 said:
That is a C5 (4.2 TT V8) not a C6 (5.0 TT V10).
Yep, well spotted. Headline has been updated and we're all off to Audi internal product code school. Should be fun... Apologies!


Matt

Adz The Rat

14,096 posts

209 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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Plainview23 said:
Great cars but the B5 RS4 is better looking, cheaper to run and also ludicrously fast.
I was massively disappointed when I drove the RS4. Certainly not slow, but didnt feel as fast as I expected. Went round corners very well, but I got bored quite quickly.

RGambo

849 posts

169 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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rtz62 said:
"So it's essential that you only consider cherished examples packing a full service history and ideally get any potential purchase vetted by a specialist who can carry out a diagnostic check before parting with a penny. A timing belt service is a must every 35K miles (or three years) and an oil change every 5,000 miles. Other potential issues include various leaking seals, failing cam adjusters, blown MAFs, sagging bushes, cracked manifolds, leaking intercoolers, and split pipework. Not surprisingly the RS6 isn't universally popular with warranty companies, so find one that will cover the big items for a sensible premium will take a bit of leg work."

Hmmm, those self-same companies will also no doubt have their excuse book open at 'A' for Audi, licking their lips in anticipation at the punter who takes out a warranty for an RS6, and then attempts a warranty claim.
They will forensically examine the service history before the inevitable reply of 'fair wear and tear' emits forth.

I'd guess that anything that is high mileage (and what they class as that, as compared to you and I may be debated) or has anything other than a cast-iron service history with items attended to as you stated, may be dismissed out of hand?

Do any RS6 owners have experience of big claims and the battles they did or didn't have???
Dismissed out of hand? No. Go into with eyes open , yes. I had one. It cost me about £2.5k over a year in repairs. You either want one and put up with costs by factoring in them to you running costs or don't bother.
they are great cars, but by modern standards, a bit crude, the difference between my old C5 and my current C7 RS is massive, I'm not just talking about performance, but refinement. I think the main issue is the base car, the C5 wasn't a great car, Audi had to do a lot of work to get the RS to be refined and it was limited by it gearbox and general technology, the C7 is a much better car in base form, the C5 always felt like a just about controlled explosion, buy contrast, the C7 feels totally under control and contained, in a bonkers fast way.

Hungry Pigeon

224 posts

184 months

Friday 21st November 2014
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Avoid, avoid, avoid...like the fking plague.

I had one. Cost me about a tenner a mile in maintenance, excluding fuel and insurance....and this was a fully warrantied car from Audi. They have so many issues that each cost thousands to fix - assuming, of course, you can find an Audi dealer with the requisite knowledge required to fix these things (not an easy task).

If you must buy one, go for one that has had the DRC system ripped out. It was acknowledged as not being fit for purpose in the US and was replaced FOC, but Audi UK said it was a-okay even when presented with US recall notices and part numbers proving that the US system was exactly the same as the st system used here in the UK.

Frankly, I'd spend my money on an AMG. Audi don't care about their owners, and don't want to know once you're out of warranty.

Be warned!