Full respray for £399 - Too good to be true?

Full respray for £399 - Too good to be true?

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B17NNS

18,506 posts

246 months

Saturday 22nd November 2014
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Small service bonnet repainted on my Tuscan earlier in the year, nothing fancy, just a regular metallic blue, £360 with the VAT. Phoned a few places, all there or there abouts.

identity_crisis

934 posts

215 months

Saturday 22nd November 2014
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To be honest these guys are really selling themselves cheap. Plasti dip or not they are at the bottom of the food chain and wont be making decent money at those prices.

With these feet

5,728 posts

214 months

Saturday 22nd November 2014
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From what Ive read about the stuff you can peel it off for up to 12 months then becomes semi-permanent after that, potentially needing retouching over time.

I contacted someone a while ago about it but got no reply as I could be fine on racecars. Issues I have is how t would stand up to decals, rubber marks and stone chips.



mph1977

12,467 posts

167 months

Saturday 22nd November 2014
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ferrariF50lover said:
Are you lot sure? There are new cars, brand spanking new cars, fabricated from scratch in far flung places and shipped direct to your local dealership, inclusive of tax and other charges, for sale in the UK today for, what, seven grand.

There are people here claiming that 70% the cost of a new car is paint, which, when R&D runs into the tens or hundreds of millions, is patently not true.

What's the craic?
You are on crack more like...

New cars don't require stripping down, sanding down, repairs and correction before you pick up the paint gun.

That's what takes the time to do a proper job.

New car primed parts as they leave the press room, painted in a highly automated plant vs all the prep work and a hand done and hand finished psint process.

Toaster Pilot

14,615 posts

157 months

Saturday 22nd November 2014
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I have a few bangers about....

ezi

1,734 posts

185 months

Saturday 22nd November 2014
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With these feet said:
From what Ive read about the stuff you can peel it off for up to 12 months then becomes semi-permanent after that, potentially needing retouching over time.

I contacted someone a while ago about it but got no reply as I could be fine on racecars. Issues I have is how t would stand up to decals, rubber marks and stone chips.
I was looking at getting my car colour changed with plasti dip not too long ago as it needs a full side respray anyway and figured why not as it was only going to be about £250 more, however the more I looked into it the more I wanted to avoid it because apparently it's nearly impossible to get a perfect finish and it comes out textured?

Simmy86

1 posts

110 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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Hi folks

New member here, I have had 2 cars painted at Econospray a mk4 Golf that went from Metallic Black to Polar white in March last year it had dents on roof and wings all sorted including fixing my scabby allows and a Mk2 Cortina which went from Aubergine to Ford Ruby Red Metallic. Ok I didnt pay 399 for the Cortina but i was more than pleased with the results and the price and have pics of what they did to my car if anyone is interested ill post here.

It really depends on your expectations the door checks and under the bonnet aren't touched for £399 but wasnt an issue on the golf.


folos

900 posts

141 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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Simmy86 said:
Hi folks

New member here, I have had 2 cars painted at Econospray a mk4 Golf that went from Metallic Black to Polar white in March last year it had dents on roof and wings all sorted including fixing my scabby allows and a Mk2 Cortina which went from Aubergine to Ford Ruby Red Metallic. Ok I didnt pay 399 for the Cortina but i was more than pleased with the results and the price and have pics of what they did to my car if anyone is interested ill post here.

It really depends on your expectations the door checks and under the bonnet aren't touched for £399 but wasnt an issue on the golf.
hello there mr econospray, glad you could pop in!

TheAngryDog

12,394 posts

208 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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folos said:
Simmy86 said:
Hi folks

New member here, I have had 2 cars painted at Econospray a mk4 Golf that went from Metallic Black to Polar white in March last year it had dents on roof and wings all sorted including fixing my scabby allows and a Mk2 Cortina which went from Aubergine to Ford Ruby Red Metallic. Ok I didnt pay 399 for the Cortina but i was more than pleased with the results and the price and have pics of what they did to my car if anyone is interested ill post here.

It really depends on your expectations the door checks and under the bonnet aren't touched for £399 but wasnt an issue on the golf.
hello there mr econospray, glad you could pop in!
How gullible do these people think we are? rofl

Spare tyre

9,458 posts

129 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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Any pics then?

B17NNS

18,506 posts

246 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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This should be interesting biggrin

Pit Pony

8,265 posts

120 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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I know this bloke called Tim, who paints in a shed or a barn, and offered to fix the dents and respray the bonnet of my wife's mini for £180.

Given that I once paid him to fix the sills of the Mx5, and they are now rusting because he's a tt, I don't think he's getting the job.

You get what you pay for. Except that I thought he might cut the rust off before welding in new metal. but no. tt.

Megaflow

9,347 posts

224 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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Caddyshack

10,605 posts

205 months

Thursday 15th January 2015
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What a waste of £399. I will throw a can of immulsion at your car for £399 anything more work than that and it ain't a business. Do not be tempted to waste your money. If it was £1500 I would say be very careful and that is with you stripping and doing some prep!

With these feet

5,728 posts

214 months

Friday 16th January 2015
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Caddyshack said:
What a waste of £399. I will throw a can of immulsion at your car for £399 anything more work than that and it ain't a business. Do not be tempted to waste your money. If it was £1500 I would say be very careful and that is with you stripping and doing some prep!
Friend of mine asked me to paint the lower half of his VW camper, saying it had had an amount of welding and should just need a blow over.
Basically the job he had done was awful, lower 1/4s welded over the old rusted ones so the new panel had rotted already. Inches of filler, front arches 1/2" too far out. I could keep going but as you said, with bodywork you do tend to get what you pay for. £399 is less than 10 hours in a body shop, to mask a car properly would take hours let alone the prep work and then the spraying. The plastic sprays have the advantage of overspray being peeled off but thats about it.

GAVBEY

69 posts

140 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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WELL,

sorry for the thread revival.

Ive just put my RX7 into these guys and you know what. all you guys with negative comments are WRONG! here are some reasons they do it cheaper than all you rip off painters

1. cars are Finnish with gun finish = Saves time and money
2. They dont have cheap Chinese paint.. if there's even such thing! most spray shops spray a panel here or there and only buy small quantities of paint. these guys paint FULL cars exclusivity so you guessed it .. they buy there paint in bulk. Masive bulk meaning they get paint much cheaper than your usual paint shop.
3. each car is prepped and painted in 3 days = less time, saving money
4. they do around 3 cars per day, the shear quantity meaning they don't need to make as big a profit as spray shops.
5. they have done hundreds of cars so you could say they were exsperinced in full cars.
6. they dont remove bumpers, doors , bonnets etc = less time making it cheaper

so if any of you work in a car body shop can you tell me the last time you done a full car?

these guys are VERY cheap and they get a hard time from almost everyone because there taking business away and rightly so.

My RX7 is a Weekend / Track toy so i cant justify a 3.5k+ spray job that will most likely end up in a gravel trap or some chav in a polo in the side of me.

Yes i know there will be allot of orange peel. There is plenty laqure on there to wet sand and polish out.

i get it back in 6 days. ill add pictures to show you what there capable of wink


GAVBEY

69 posts

140 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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i should also mention its
£399 for flat colour
£499 for metalic
and extra for any major fillering / fiber glassing etc.

maximum it can be is about £1000 and thats with inside car, door jams boot jams bonnet jams, wheels painted and major fillering. still cheap.

HustleRussell

24,602 posts

159 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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GAVBEY said:
WELL,

sorry for the thread revival.

Ive just put my RX7 into these guys and you know what. all you guys with negative comments are WRONG!

i get it back in 6 days. ill add pictures to show you what there capable of wink
They're.

How come you're singing their praises when you haven't seen the result yet?

GAVBEY said:
cheaper than all you rip off painters
You seem to be implying that anything more than the 399/499/1000 quid you've mentioned is a 'rip off'. Are you denying that these 'rip off painters' are generally turning out much better quality work? If not, what makes them a 'rip off'?

GAVBEY said:
1. cars are Finnish with gun finish = Saves time and money
What about German, French, British, Italian, American, Japanese etc cars?

GAVBEY said:
2. They dont have cheap Chinese paint.. if there's even such thing! most spray shops spray a panel here or there and only buy small quantities of paint. these guys paint FULL cars exclusivity so you guessed it .. they buy there paint in bulk. Masive bulk meaning they get paint much cheaper than your usual paint shop.
Paint is mixed at workshops from a range of universal base colours. As such the only saving with mixing large quantities of a single colour is the painter's time. Plenty of workshops are using more paint than these guys are painting three cars a day, so all things being equal it shouldn't work out much cheaper. So how does it?

GAVBEY said:
6. they dont remove bumpers, doors , bonnets etc = less time making it cheaper
This is how. By doing an inferior job with cheaper labour, materials and consumables. By cutting corners wherever they're there to be cut.

GAVBEY said:
so if any of you work in a car body shop can you tell me the last time you done a full car?

these guys are VERY cheap and they get a hard time from almost everyone because there taking business away and rightly so.
As you say they occupy a different area of the market and are doing a much more slap dash job, so how are they actually 'taking business away' from 'rip off painters'? If they aren't, then why is everyone giving them a hard time?

Finally can you confirm whether you do or do not have any affiliation with this company and it's service apart from being a soon-to-be-satisfied customer?

shake n bake

2,221 posts

206 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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I'll tune in next week to see the pictures then......

andburg

7,214 posts

168 months

Thursday 16th April 2015
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shock horror.....

GAVBEY
2 posts
33 months

Both posts in here....

Can the real Mr econospray please stand up!