French cars.Hmmm...
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We don't have to listen to rumours or reputation anymore. Or your brothers mate is a mechanic and he says never buy a French car. We now have the facts from the UKs largest warranty company and its German cars that are unreliable but the German car snobs won't have it no not in a million years. Particularly the vag fanboys which are the worsed Fanboys of the lot.
I've owned 8 Renaults in my time and I can honestly say that none of them have been problematic.
I'll put my hands up and say they're not built like the Germans but they're not the same price range as them either.
I've also owned five RenaultSport models and one thing the French can do is fun!!! So no my Twingo 133 isn't built as well as my mum's A1 but it's a shed load more fun to drive, cheaper to buy and full of character than many better built cars.
I'll put my hands up and say they're not built like the Germans but they're not the same price range as them either.
I've also owned five RenaultSport models and one thing the French can do is fun!!! So no my Twingo 133 isn't built as well as my mum's A1 but it's a shed load more fun to drive, cheaper to buy and full of character than many better built cars.
Rjbell said:
We don't have to listen to rumours or reputation anymore. Or your brothers mate is a mechanic and he says never buy a French car. We now have the facts from the UKs largest warranty company and its German cars that are unreliable but the German car snobs won't have it no not in a million years. Particularly the vag fanboys which are the worsed Fanboys of the lot.
Which begs the question, why don't I see them instead?£375 Citroen C5 owner weighing in...
I used to be in the ''if it's french its s
te camp'' , Now dont get me wrong i love beemers but ultra reliable they aint, The VAG Stuff we have had in the family has been terrible.. A4 1.8t two engines and a gearbox plus god knows what else under warranty.. I do like the germans though still.
My c5's done 5000 miles since i bought it and its been superb, Its basic and a bit dull to drive with lacklustre steering, But it just knuckles down and does its job.
Regards
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I used to be in the ''if it's french its s
te camp'' , Now dont get me wrong i love beemers but ultra reliable they aint, The VAG Stuff we have had in the family has been terrible.. A4 1.8t two engines and a gearbox plus god knows what else under warranty.. I do like the germans though still.My c5's done 5000 miles since i bought it and its been superb, Its basic and a bit dull to drive with lacklustre steering, But it just knuckles down and does its job.
Regards
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Edited by DegsyE39 on Thursday 28th April 21:45
i notice the new C6 is not for the UK market...
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/citroen/95300/new-201...
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/citroen/95300/new-201...
Rjbell said:
We don't have to listen to rumours or reputation anymore. Or your brothers mate is a mechanic and he says never buy a French car. We now have the facts from the UKs largest warranty company and its German cars that are unreliable but the German car snobs won't have it no not in a million years. Particularly the vag fanboys which are the worsed Fanboys of the lot.
My mate owns a garage and tells me not to buy anything modern, anything not Japanese, or any diesel at all from the last eight years. He doesn't seem to mind my nail V70 from 2004 though, although that might be a profit related item.Alex_225 said:
I've owned 8 Renaults in my time and I can honestly say that none of them have been problematic.
I'll put my hands up and say they're not built like the Germans but they're not the same price range as them either.
I've also owned five RenaultSport models and one thing the French can do is fun!!! So no my Twingo 133 isn't built as well as my mum's A1 but it's a shed load more fun to drive, cheaper to buy and full of character than many better built cars.
Have to agree with all of that. The A1 we have, despite having adjustable suspension 'stuff' and voice controls etc is no more interesting than any new Astra, Ford...pretty much anything. They just throw stuff at it you don't need, cover it in chrome and charge 20k (mind you, most manufacturers do the same)I'll put my hands up and say they're not built like the Germans but they're not the same price range as them either.
I've also owned five RenaultSport models and one thing the French can do is fun!!! So no my Twingo 133 isn't built as well as my mum's A1 but it's a shed load more fun to drive, cheaper to buy and full of character than many better built cars.
It's utterly soulless.
I've always been quite lucky with the overall reliability of my cars.
I have always kept on top of servicing and small jobs etc; I treat the car with respect, let it warm up and cool down properly etc.
In the last 15 years, I have had a few electrical gremlins with a Honda Civic, a dodgy engine mount on a Peugeot 106 and a failed coil pack on a Volkswagen Polo. However, as far as I can remember that is about it.
Am I one of the lucky ones?
I have always kept on top of servicing and small jobs etc; I treat the car with respect, let it warm up and cool down properly etc.
In the last 15 years, I have had a few electrical gremlins with a Honda Civic, a dodgy engine mount on a Peugeot 106 and a failed coil pack on a Volkswagen Polo. However, as far as I can remember that is about it.
Am I one of the lucky ones?
Well the bits that have broken on my C5x7 have been "Made in Germany"
Have had 7 Citroen's in the last 18 years.....used for work and play.
Name me one car that could live with carting cast iron radiators in its boot day after day ?
Been let down roadside once, by a Bosch pressure regulator failing.
Still cannot believe anybody would buy an Estate Car without hydro-active suspension or that the idiots at Citroen never managed to convince the world of its benefits.
Have had 7 Citroen's in the last 18 years.....used for work and play.
Name me one car that could live with carting cast iron radiators in its boot day after day ?
Been let down roadside once, by a Bosch pressure regulator failing.
Still cannot believe anybody would buy an Estate Car without hydro-active suspension or that the idiots at Citroen never managed to convince the world of its benefits.
Edited by Stickyfinger on Thursday 28th April 22:08
t4thomas said:
I've always been quite lucky with the overall reliability of my cars.
I have always kept on top of servicing and small jobs etc; I treat the car with respect, let it warm up and cool down properly etc.
In the last 15 years, I have had a few electrical gremlins with a Honda Civic, a dodgy engine mount on a Peugeot 106 and a failed coil pack on a Volkswagen Polo. However, as far as I can remember that is about it.
Am I one of the lucky ones?
Same here, really. And given that I pretty much gave up spending 6 to 10k+ on stuff and started enjoying cheap crap, it's a bit of a miracle I have always kept on top of servicing and small jobs etc; I treat the car with respect, let it warm up and cool down properly etc.
In the last 15 years, I have had a few electrical gremlins with a Honda Civic, a dodgy engine mount on a Peugeot 106 and a failed coil pack on a Volkswagen Polo. However, as far as I can remember that is about it.
Am I one of the lucky ones?
As of yet, I don't think I have ever not made it home in anything....*thinks*
ChasW said:
We have an 2008 Peugeot 207. The only failure has been a starter motor.
Even that would put me off owning one. I don't want a dead starter motor on a 2008 car. Blayney said:
2008 Twingo. 116k miles so far. One coil pack and one ABS unit. Everything else would be wear and tear/service items (front springs, discs/pads, plugs and filters and oil etc.).
Again, on a 2008 car, with that mileage, I would never buy another based on that list of issues.Digby said:
ChasW said:
We have an 2008 Peugeot 207. The only failure has been a starter motor.
Even that would put me off owning one. I don't want a dead starter motor on a 2008 car. Blayney said:
2008 Twingo. 116k miles so far. One coil pack and one ABS unit. Everything else would be wear and tear/service items (front springs, discs/pads, plugs and filters and oil etc.).
Again, on a 2008 car, with that mileage, I would never buy another based on that list of issues.
Digby said:
ChasW said:
We have an 2008 Peugeot 207. The only failure has been a starter motor.
Even that would put me off owning one. I don't want a dead starter motor on a 2008 car. Blayney said:
2008 Twingo. 116k miles so far. One coil pack and one ABS unit. Everything else would be wear and tear/service items (front springs, discs/pads, plugs and filters and oil etc.).
Again, on a 2008 car, with that mileage, I would never buy another based on that list of issues.Can only speak for Remault but as a student my father bought me a Renault Laguna Mk 1 (bought with 18k and taken to 110k) and then replaced with a facelift Mk 1 (40k taken to 160k) with no real issues apart from regular servicing and air con re gas (X1 each).
I think there is an element of driving them sensibly (they were certainly no sports cars!) and they proved to be comfy cruisers.
Would I buy another Frenchy? Possibly a Clio v6, Avantime or sports spider would feature in my £100k garage!
I think there is an element of driving them sensibly (they were certainly no sports cars!) and they proved to be comfy cruisers.
Would I buy another Frenchy? Possibly a Clio v6, Avantime or sports spider would feature in my £100k garage!
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