French cars.Hmmm...
Discussion
Digby said:
ChasW said:
We have an 2008 Peugeot 207. The only failure has been a starter motor.
Even that would put me off owning one. I don't want a dead starter motor on a 2008 car. Blayney said:
2008 Twingo. 116k miles so far. One coil pack and one ABS unit. Everything else would be wear and tear/service items (front springs, discs/pads, plugs and filters and oil etc.).
Again, on a 2008 car, with that mileage, I would never buy another with that list of issues.I'll stick to my PSA diesels with 6 monthly oil and filter changes thanks !
Digby said:
ChasW said:
We have an 2008 Peugeot 207. The only failure has been a starter motor.
Even that would put me off owning one. I don't want a dead starter motor on a 2008 car. Blayney said:
2008 Twingo. 116k miles so far. One coil pack and one ABS unit. Everything else would be wear and tear/service items (front springs, discs/pads, plugs and filters and oil etc.).
Again, on a 2008 car, with that mileage, I would never buy another based on that list of issues.I don't think 2 things really warrants the term "list".
Very impressed with my Clio 172 - 2003 plate on 100k miles now, just rounded off 18k this last year. The interior is completely rattle-free, everything works and everything's in good condition (with the exception of the steering wheel which has melted a bit, they all do that sir).
Fantastic cars.
Fantastic cars.
Digby said:
Same here, really. And given that I pretty much gave up spending 6 to 10k+ on stuff and started enjoying cheap crap, it's a bit of a miracle 
As of yet, I don't think I have ever not made it home in anything....*thinks*
Yeah, agree.As of yet, I don't think I have ever not made it home in anything....*thinks*
The coil pack is the only thing that caused me to spend some time at the side of the road.
The electrical gremlins on the Civic forced me to drive home with the windows open in a bad weather. FUN!
Blayney said:
JoeMarano said:
Nope completely wrong. Maybe once upon a time but not nowadays. I've always owned french cars and they were very reliable.
Most cars I see broken down are brand new or really old s
tters!
We'll see how my time in VW ownership goes now.
Most cars I see broken down are brand new or really old s
tters! We'll see how my time in VW ownership goes now.
Sorry!
Sold a Tiguan a few months ago, the engine management light gave us grief a few times; the car felt really old too, it definately felt older than it was; all creaky and wallowy.
I have an RAC man as a customer, he won't touch German; he has bought three Renault's from me in the last 5 years and when he worked for us he had a Scenic MKI facelift and his son had a Clio.
Blayney said:
Really? Neither issue left me stranded as the coil pack revealed itself with a slight hesitation when accelerating under load that eventually developed into a misfire - then was rectified. ABS unit didn't exactly stop the car working. I know we on PH are enlightened but the general public perception is that French and over 100k miles must mean it never starts... and it's simply not true! That car is thrashed on an almost daily basis and just keeps going...
I don't think 2 things really warrants the term "list".
Front springs on something the size of a bag of sugar would put me off and as soon as things got "electrical"....well, I'm out I don't think 2 things really warrants the term "list".
I have probably been around Japanese cars and old Volvo's for too long.
My old 850 which still looks almost mint both inside and out and under the bonnet (MOT tester couldn't find any surface rust anywhere) is now on a neighbours drive sat on 160k. He's covered around 20k of that already and has so far changed.... a bush.
It's 20 years old. It looks two years old. It drives like it is two years old. Almost everything on it is original with all the old paperwork only showing service items and iirc, an alternator.
My parents old 24 year old Toyota (owned from new) had a few bulbs in its life and nothing else.
That's probably why tales of 116k, on something not very old and having to spend what must equate to several hundred pounds on problems, would put me off.
Digby said:
Blayney said:
Really? Neither issue left me stranded as the coil pack revealed itself with a slight hesitation when accelerating under load that eventually developed into a misfire - then was rectified. ABS unit didn't exactly stop the car working. I know we on PH are enlightened but the general public perception is that French and over 100k miles must mean it never starts... and it's simply not true! That car is thrashed on an almost daily basis and just keeps going...
I don't think 2 things really warrants the term "list".
Front springs on something the size of a bag of sugar would put me off and as soon as things got "electrical"....well, I'm out I don't think 2 things really warrants the term "list".
I have probably been around Japanese cars and old Volvo's for too long.
My old 850 which still looks almost mint both inside and out and under the bonnet (MOT tester couldn't find any surface rust anywhere) is now on a neighbours drive sat on 160k. He's covered around 20k of that already and has so far changed.... a bush.
It's 20 years old. It looks two years old. It drives like it is two years old. Almost everything on it is original with all the old paperwork only showing service items and iirc, an alternator.
My parents old 24 year old Toyota (owned from new) had a few bulbs in its life and nothing else.
That's probably why tales of 116k, on something not very old and having to spend what must equate to several hundred pounds on problems, would put me off.
im no french car ( or any other make ) fanatic. my picasso diesel 4 years ago cost me £300. and its still going showing 210,000 miles. spend on average around £100 per year on home mainenance. yes its crap handling,and its an old mans car, but it keeps going . and its not the first cheap citreon ive had. and since 1969 ive owned lots of different makes. having some mechancal sympathy may help. they are no worse or better than a lot of other so called quality makes.
I rarely see any cars at the side of the road with their Hazards on, and when I do it's usually some idiot playing with their phone. I can't say I have noticed any more French cars on the back of break down vehicles than I do of any other types of cars.
I have owned a DS3 for over 3 years now and the only non standard maintenance of the vehicle I have had is a new alloy replaced under warranty for corrosion and a new bracket for my exhaust. Touch wood but the rest of the time it has been flawless.
I have owned a DS3 for over 3 years now and the only non standard maintenance of the vehicle I have had is a new alloy replaced under warranty for corrosion and a new bracket for my exhaust. Touch wood but the rest of the time it has been flawless.
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