The £260 Indicator Bulb- Is this really Progress?
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k-ink said:
Clearly nonsense, otherwise this thread would not exist.
It's not the LED that fails its the associated modules/control units that are required to make them work.LED's in themselves are fantastic, my cree torch is a 10th of the size & weight of my old Maglite and produces 100x the light for a fraction of the price, the batteries have also lasted so far over 2 years of frequent use, something you'd never get with normal bulbs.
crashrepairman said:
Could be a business opportunity for someone to start repairing them?
I can repair basic things, but I am very lucky in having a good friend who can repair most electrical things. He has a side line in fixing nearly new tvs, he can pinpoint the problem pretty quickI'll mention this thread to him, could be a good earner for him
Talking of Volkswagen I get the problem that at night the LEDs they use are overbright.
This means that I often can't distinguish between normal night running lights and when the car is braking. This seems to be compounded if an indicator is flashing.
I've found myself coming uncomfortably close to the car in front as a result of this. I find the light harsh too - I prefer normal bulbs.
This means that I often can't distinguish between normal night running lights and when the car is braking. This seems to be compounded if an indicator is flashing.
I've found myself coming uncomfortably close to the car in front as a result of this. I find the light harsh too - I prefer normal bulbs.
It's not just LED lights but all things on modern cars that can easily stop working or get broken off.
1982, someone knocks off the wing mirror off my Renault 6. Pop down the motor spares shop and get a generic replacement for a fiver.
2014, someone knocks off the wing mirror off your new shopping car. Has to be ordered, specific part, £300 and that's if you know how to fit it. Add another £100 if you don't.
The bewildering different styles of headlights these days can see the cost of replacements almost getting to a grand.
Lack of decent bumpers or rubbing strips means that a simple ding can cost hundreds of pounds.
No wonder we go bats
te when the offender says 'It's just a car'.
1982, someone knocks off the wing mirror off my Renault 6. Pop down the motor spares shop and get a generic replacement for a fiver.
2014, someone knocks off the wing mirror off your new shopping car. Has to be ordered, specific part, £300 and that's if you know how to fit it. Add another £100 if you don't.
The bewildering different styles of headlights these days can see the cost of replacements almost getting to a grand.
Lack of decent bumpers or rubbing strips means that a simple ding can cost hundreds of pounds.
No wonder we go bats
te when the offender says 'It's just a car'.croyde said:
It's not just LED lights but all things on modern cars that can easily stop working or get broken off.
1982, someone knocks off the wing mirror off my Renault 6. Pop down the motor spares shop and get a generic replacement for a fiver.
2014, someone knocks off the wing mirror off your new shopping car. Has to be ordered, specific part, £300 and that's if you know how to fit it. Add another £100 if you don't.
The bewildering different styles of headlights these days can see the cost of replacements almost getting to a grand.
Lack of decent bumpers or rubbing strips means that a simple ding can cost hundreds of pounds.
No wonder we go batste when the offender says 'It's just a car'.
Yes but the 1982 mirror wouldn't be electrically adjusted or be heated. 1982, someone knocks off the wing mirror off my Renault 6. Pop down the motor spares shop and get a generic replacement for a fiver.
2014, someone knocks off the wing mirror off your new shopping car. Has to be ordered, specific part, £300 and that's if you know how to fit it. Add another £100 if you don't.
The bewildering different styles of headlights these days can see the cost of replacements almost getting to a grand.
Lack of decent bumpers or rubbing strips means that a simple ding can cost hundreds of pounds.
No wonder we go bats
te when the offender says 'It's just a car'.GroundEffect said:
Yes but the 1982 mirror wouldn't be electrically adjusted or be heated.
Nor would it contain an indicator or a light to show you puddles your little feety-weetys might get wetty in or a button to open the door or a temperature sensor None of which anyone actually needs of course - but people are stupid enough to buy anyway, I mean moving a mirror with your HANDS - how COULD you...
) who just changed 'em for free for me! ( They do get ALL my business) AND, I tell everyone they're GOOD!!! Surely the question is at what point does the LED stop becoming a consumable or wearing part?
We are used to bulbs wearing out and have to be replaced - like tyres, brakes pads, clutch plates, etc.
But as discussed LED's aren't like this - there is an LED and a driver circuit. Their (manufacturer) choice to make it one unit.
Like if the ECU failed because the circuit board failed, you would expect it to be replaced under warranty. If they chose to weld the ECU to the engine then they would have to replace the combined unit.
Needs a member of the awkward squad with a failure within warranty to start arguing. Wonder what would happen if it ended up in a small claims court.
We are used to bulbs wearing out and have to be replaced - like tyres, brakes pads, clutch plates, etc.
But as discussed LED's aren't like this - there is an LED and a driver circuit. Their (manufacturer) choice to make it one unit.
Like if the ECU failed because the circuit board failed, you would expect it to be replaced under warranty. If they chose to weld the ECU to the engine then they would have to replace the combined unit.
Needs a member of the awkward squad with a failure within warranty to start arguing. Wonder what would happen if it ended up in a small claims court.
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