2014 64 plate or 2015 64 plate - value diff in 2018/20?

[jellypig]

Hopefully a "quick question".

Ordered a new car back end of October, (low estimate was Dec29th for delivery, without including Christmas shutdowns, hence probably into Jan)
Dont <need> it until February. (have always been clear on that with the dealer)

Just received text message from manufacturer "Car is now built and en route to dealer" (sudden change, because yesterday status was "awaiting scheduling")

Am looking at owning for 6years (assuming its the right car). Haven't spoken to the dealer yet, but spidey sense is saying they might want (for bonus reasons?) to register it for the road before 31/12/14.

Will they do that without me intervening?
There are only very modest benefits to me of getting it sooner rather than later (intended driver is ineligible until Feb), but also costs (insurance etc)

Any longer term residual value differences between a 2014 and 2015 registered car - it will still be a '64 plate?

[Jonwm]

I'm by no means any expert in this and my reply is from experience, my lease company at work would never release cars in December, February or August up until this year when they shipped a colleagues car on a 14 plate the 23rd August, my new car originally March 15 is being registered December, when I spoke to the lease company they said it really has little difference nowadays, more so that people want a 64 in September and hold off, if they're happy (as my non ph colleague was) to just receive whenever, they are too, she also said this would not have happened 12 months ago though, maybe times are changing.

[shake n bake]

No difference at all in future values as the plate remains the same.
I'm sure the dealer will want to register it for there monthly target, but without your signature on the afrl form they won't be doing anything.....

[daemon]

shake n bake said:

No difference at all in future values as the plate remains the same.

No. The motor trade guides do take into account year as well as plate.

[daemon]

jellypig said:

Hopefully a "quick question".

Ordered a new car back end of October, (low estimate was Dec29th for delivery, without including Christmas shutdowns, hence probably into Jan)
Dont <need> it until February. (have always been clear on that with the dealer)

Just received text message from manufacturer "Car is now built and en route to dealer" (sudden change, because yesterday status was "awaiting scheduling")

Am looking at owning for 6years (assuming its the right car). Haven't spoken to the dealer yet, but spidey sense is saying they might want (for bonus reasons?) to register it for the road before 31/12/14.

Will they do that without me intervening?
There are only very modest benefits to me of getting it sooner rather than later (intended driver is ineligible until Feb), but also costs (insurance etc)

Any longer term residual value differences between a 2014 and 2015 registered car - it will still be a '64 plate?

I would insist on Jan registration, if that was your original plan to do so.

The car could take a fortnight to get from the factory to the dealership anyway, so you're into December.

Tell them you want it registered 2015.

[shake n bake]

daemon said:

No. The motor trade guides do take into account year as well as plate.

7 years of selling cars makes me question that and your knowledge.

[Willy Nilly]

In 6 years time the condition and mileage will be more important than a couple of months difference of registration date

[daemon]

shake n bake said:

daemon said:

No. The motor trade guides do take into account year as well as plate.

7 years of selling cars makes me question that and your knowledge.

25 years of trading makes me question yours.

Ask your manager to show you in Glass.net

Edited by daemon on Sunday 23 November 09:50

[shake n bake]

daemon said:

25 years of trading makes me question yours.

So you'd sell precisely the same car that was registered a day later on the same plate for more?
Anyhoo, I'm not going to ruin the op's thread with a difference in opinion.
As I said, no signed afrl, no registration.

[jellypig]

daemon said:

No. The motor trade guides do take into account year as well as plate.

Certainly when I was doing the original research ads were filtered by year first, then plate. (It was never the intention to get new, so spent a while looking at 2nd hand)

But you're also right, that message came in this morning, it could take 4weeks to get to the local dealer. And the other post about in 6yrs it not making much difference is also valid, but my preference is for 2015 regardless.

shake n bake said:

No difference at all in future values as the plate remains the same.
I'm sure the dealer will want to register it for there monthly target, but without your signature on the afrl form they won't be doing anything.....

AFRL ?

I think I'll leave it a bit, then have a word with the dealer. It could be worth quite a bit to them to register it in Q4, and so will make my back available for scratching.

[shake n bake]

An afrl (automated first registration and licensing system) is a form with your details on, that's used to register you to your new car with the dvla. It must be signed before the car can be registered.

[jellypig]

shake n bake said:

An afrl (automated first registration and licensing system) is a form with your details on, that's used to register you to your new car with the dvla. It must be signed before the car can be registered.

Cool. Thanks.

[Snollygoster]

Obviously a 15" 64 plate will have a better value that 14" 64 plate; all be it probably a couple of hundred quid, if that.

The one thing to double check; is the car going to be on finance? If you ordered in Q3 on finance, you will probably have to have it registered by the 31st of December as a condition of the finance agreement. If you ordered it in Q4, it will most likely be fine for a Jan car as will be Q1 2015. Just something to consider.

[tomjol]

Snollygoster said:

Obviously a 15" 64 plate will have a better value that 14" 64 plate; all be it probably a couple of hundred quid, if that.

Surely it all depends on the size of your dining table?

[sim16v]

What car is it?

[jellypig]

Snollygoster said:

The one thing to double check; is the car going to be on finance? If you ordered in Q3 on finance, you will probably have to have it registered by the 31st of December as a condition of the finance agreement. If you ordered it in Q4, it will most likely be fine for a Jan car as will be Q1 2015. Just something to consider.

Hmm... thanks I'll check that, paperwork is elsewhere.

Though, I would be very disappointed if that is the case. Not saying I wouldn't accept it in 2014, just that I don't want to "have to" bearing in mind how specific we were at time of order.

[MoelyCrio]

tomjol said:

Snollygoster said:

Obviously a 15" 64 plate will have a better value that 14" 64 plate; all be it probably a couple of hundred quid, if that.

Surely it all depends on the size of your dining table?

Its all gone a bit Alan Partridge

[CarlT]

Just pick up the phone to the dealer you are buying from. Just because it is shipped doesn't mean they are counting on it for registration this year. They may have already done their target and want it in January.

If you don't want it, don't take it.

[jellypig]

CarlT said:

Just pick up the phone to the dealer you are buying from.

Yeah, I will. The purpose of me creating the thread/asking the question was so that I was armed with data before I do that.

[jellypig]

CarlT said:

Just pick up the phone to the dealer you are buying from.

Co-incidentally I called in on the dealers on Saturday (it was a convenient place to park and pull over to deal with a flurry of missed phone calls). Salesman said he'd planned to give me an update on Monday anyway unaware that I'd signed up to tracking.

He's offered to keep the car in storage at the dealers, with any protective polythene still on, until we need it.
Which to be honest is the result I wanted.

(Overall it looks like the entire process will take less than 8weeks despite their official paperwork (he showed it me on Saturday) sill saying to expect 13, and over winter/Christmas I'd argue its not unreasonable to take slightly longer)

So thanks chaps for the guidance on the DVLA forms/redidual value differences, I'd wanted to be forearmed, but sounds like I dont need to be.