whats the most dificult oil filter to change?

whats the most dificult oil filter to change?

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PhillipM

6,518 posts

189 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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The cafe racer who's exhaust I've just done, he wanted bigger pipes and them further in than standard due to fitting a fairing - result is the oil filter doesn't come off without removing the exhaust manifold hehe

Riknos

4,700 posts

204 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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mx-5 oil filter is a piece of piss really.

Also - if there's a hole in the side why does that matter? Should be using one of these...

http://www.autosessive.com/products/61797/low-prof...

Rovinghawk

13,300 posts

158 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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W168 Mercedes A-class. Doing it is easy when you can actually find it- I'd expect 99% of people could spend all day looking at the engine & not see where it's hidden.

buzzer

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3,543 posts

240 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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Riknos said:
mx-5 oil filter is a piece of piss really.

Also - if there's a hole in the side why does that matter? Should be using one of these...

http://www.autosessive.com/products/61797/low-prof...
buzzer said:
Now I cant get a filter socket on there, which would have made it much easier
That's what I said I use? he had butchered the filter to such a degree there was hardly any canister left on there, let alone enough to get any sort of tool on there.

I still wouldn't say the MX5 was an easy one to change...

Well, its stuck on his drive... try as I might I could not get it off. I suspect its been tightened with a socket tool... Its a gravel drive so I cant jack the car up high enough to get fully underneath. Plus, its blocking his wife's car in! he is going to have to get it recovered to my house where I can get it on the hoist...




graham22

3,295 posts

205 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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PhillipM said:
The cafe racer who's exhaust I've just done, he wanted bigger pipes and them further in than standard due to fitting a fairing - result is the oil filter doesn't come off without removing the exhaust manifold hehe
Many 4 into 1 systems sold in the 70's & 80's had to come off to access the filter. A Hayabusa filter is easy to get off but you can't catch any oil running out of it until after it's coated the manifold, lots of smoke after the oil change.

Seem to remember the filter on an Ibiza Cupra 20VT being awkward, think you couldn't turn it up once removed so all the oil ran out of it down/up your arms.

cj2013

1,364 posts

126 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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I found (years ago) that my 19990 Celica (2.0 16v) used to be a pain. Not for access, but I recall that the Oil Filter was directly behind the exhaust manifold.

Warm the car up to drain the oil then either wait forever for it to cool, or burn your hands trying to get to it to take it off.

FD3Si

857 posts

144 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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Have you taken the inlet manifold brace off? 3 bolts, makes it a lot easier. After that, it's a Marigold and a can of MTFU.

Just ignore the blood that comes from ripping the back of your numb hands to shreds on the fuel pipe clips. That's what the marigolds are for - they let the blood pool and insulate your frozen digits.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

255 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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The oil filter on the Rev1/2 MR2 Turbos is mounted in a particularly stupid way. It's not that difficult to access, but it's mounted upside down right next to the turbocharger, so when it's unscrewed it dumps all it's oil on the turbo.

Piercing a hole in the top of it helps some of the oil to drain before unscrewing it, but it's still a messy job.

lel

395 posts

123 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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Mr2Mike said:
The oil filter on the Rev1/2 MR2 Turbos is mounted in a particularly stupid way. It's not that difficult to access, but it's mounted upside down right next to the turbocharger, so when it's unscrewed it dumps all it's oil on the turbo.

Piercing a hole in the top of it helps some of the oil to drain before unscrewing it, but it's still a messy job.
same with the TDV6 discovery 3, filter is nice and easy to remove but you can't do it without making a mess

buzzer

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3,543 posts

240 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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FD3Si said:
Have you taken the inlet manifold brace off? 3 bolts, makes it a lot easier. After that, it's a Marigold and a can of MTFU.

Just ignore the blood that comes from ripping the back of your numb hands to shreds on the fuel pipe clips. That's what the marigolds are for - they let the blood pool and insulate your frozen digits.
I don't seem to be able to get MTFU these days :-)

well its off... I have NEVER had one so tight (ooohhheeer)

from underneath I used a long blade in the air chisel, and tapped the edge of the filter round, it was VERY tight.

Also, the sealing ring was stuck to the block when the filter came off, no sign of sealant though, but I had to scrape the remains off...

DottyMR2

478 posts

127 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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Perhaps this is one thing the Mk2 MR2 makes easy! Is accessed by just reaching up from underneath, unscrew it and pop the new one in. 5 minutes and a jack will have it done. probably the only job on the whole car that isn't a complete PITA...

andye30m3

3,453 posts

254 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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It's been a while but I seam to remember the one on a renault 5 GT turbo was a pain in the arse to get to.

Gafferjim

1,335 posts

265 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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Boobonman said:
2.5 TDi in a T5 Transporter. Not only would you struggle to slide a rizla paper down to where it lives, you then have to get a 46mm socket on it. My mate who is a steel erector didnt even have a big enough tool, off to the garage it went...
I'll second that! German piece of crap engineering at it's best, plus you have to remove the whole under-tray to get at the sump drain plug to drain the oil.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

255 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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DottyMR2 said:
Perhaps this is one thing the Mk2 MR2 makes easy! Is accessed by just reaching up from underneath, unscrew it and pop the new one in. 5 minutes and a jack will have it done. probably the only job on the whole car that isn't a complete PITA...
That's because you don't have the right Mk2 MR2 biggrin

Howard-

4,952 posts

202 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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buzzer said:
I am going to give 8 out of 10 for an MX5 MK1...
Really? Mine (1990 1.6) was easy - you just reach down to the left of the engine and grab it.


Was a fair bit harder once I put a supercharger in the way though...


The most annoying one I've owned was my old Mondeo ST220 - right above the exhaust manifold which was usually hot from where you've warmed the car up to drain the oil.

danjama

5,728 posts

142 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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As above, the Rev 3 NA MR2 i used to own was a doddle.

My Rev 2 turbo was also a doddle. Very easy access, PO had not over tightened it so it came off easily, and when i lifted it off no oil fell out. Can't complain at all.

It really is the only easy job on an mr2.

rovermorris999

5,202 posts

189 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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Mk2 MX5 is a doddle. Wear a latex glove which grips the filter and simply unscrew. If you don't have a glove try gripping it with a strip of sandpaper. I've never had a problem.

gareth_r

5,726 posts

237 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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graham22 said:
PhillipM said:
The cafe racer whose exhaust I've just done, he wanted bigger pipes and them further in than standard due to fitting a fairing - result is the oil filter doesn't come off without removing the exhaust manifold hehe
Many 4 into 1 systems sold in the 70's & 80's had to come off to access the filter. A Hayabusa filter is easy to get off but you can't catch any oil running out of it until after it's coated the manifold, lots of smoke after the oil change.
Moto Guzzis (the proper ones - 850 Le Mans in my case) had a spin-on filter... inside the sump. 16 (or was it 18?) screws to remove the sump.

B'stard Child

28,393 posts

246 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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Rovinghawk said:
W168 Mercedes A-class. Doing it is easy when you can actually find it- I'd expect 99% of people could spend all day looking at the engine & not see where it's hidden.
SLK 230 ^ this finding it was the hard bit - changing it was easy

IntriguedUser

989 posts

121 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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Corsa 1.8 (Z18XE)

Its not in the same place as the 1.0/1.2/1.4

Its below the manifold, but you have to stretch down, and you can't really get much power to twist it due to there not being room. From underneath is just a myth.