RE: BMW M3 CSL: PH Carpool
Discussion
Plainview23 said:
Wildly over-hyped in my view and I've had plenty of time in them.
The E92 M3 is a better car, better engine, much better gearbox - in Manual or DCT.
Get one with the BMW Performance seats and it is superb. The Performance exhaust just tops off the glorious V8.
Could not disagree more with the above. As a car to enjoy driving, the csl stomps over the standard e92 m3 imo. Perhaps the gts might be closer i admit but absolutely not the standard car.The E92 M3 is a better car, better engine, much better gearbox - in Manual or DCT.
Get one with the BMW Performance seats and it is superb. The Performance exhaust just tops off the glorious V8.
The csl is a really fabulous car even if the smg can be annoying at slow/city type speeds albeit the brakes are a weak point. Still very much regret not getting one a few years ago (and absolutely non price related!).
Plainview23 said:
Wildly over-hyped in my view and I've had plenty of time in them.
The E92 M3 is a better car, better engine, much better gearbox - in Manual or DCT.
Get one with the BMW Performance seats and it is superb. The Performance exhaust just tops off the glorious V8.
It's probably not about which is the better car. The CSL is a very special and very interesting car. It's different and BMW has done nothing as exciting since. The GTS was IMO, nowhere near as special as the CSL. The E92 M3 is a better car, better engine, much better gearbox - in Manual or DCT.
Get one with the BMW Performance seats and it is superb. The Performance exhaust just tops off the glorious V8.
Yes, I agree, the E92 is the better car. In the same way as the latest F82 M4 is better than the E9 3.0 CSL. But it's not interesting, nor anywhere near as special. One day it might be.
But for the moment, the E46 CSL is probably the best M3 of the lot - and I include the E30 Sport EVO.
griffgrog said:
It's probably not about which is the better car. The CSL is a very special and very interesting car. It's different and BMW has done nothing as exciting since. The GTS was IMO, nowhere near as special as the CSL.
Yes, I agree, the E92 is the better car. In the same way as the latest F82 M4 is better than the E9 3.0 CSL. But it's not interesting, nor anywhere near as special. One day it might be.
But for the moment, the E46 CSL is probably the best M3 of the lot - and I include the E30 Sport EVO.
It's a close run thing.......Yes, I agree, the E92 is the better car. In the same way as the latest F82 M4 is better than the E9 3.0 CSL. But it's not interesting, nor anywhere near as special. One day it might be.
But for the moment, the E46 CSL is probably the best M3 of the lot - and I include the E30 Sport EVO.
0836whimper said:
161BMW said:
.... So how good is the noise ? Does it really scare passers by :-) ?
Check out the last page 'Art of Speed' section of Evo next month.And in the meantime, stick some headphones in and enjoy : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiDuj8L3dh4&li...
Edited by billywhizzzzzz on Tuesday 25th November 19:09
MattCSLnut said:
Love the bottom pic.Here are some more memories
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qW1ID6Zd6Q0&fea...
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