Utilising the power on a VERY powerful car...
Discussion
FrankUnderwood said:
If cars cost 50p and we spent 5 minutes a day in one I would agree.
But that's not the case.
We tend to spend significant amounts of time in cars and for most people they're the second most expensive purchase.
Hence if you could afford to then you would take something like a performance orientated V8 over a diesel.
That may well be the case, but the bizarre hyperbole and emotion about the subject is quite amusing.But that's not the case.
We tend to spend significant amounts of time in cars and for most people they're the second most expensive purchase.
Hence if you could afford to then you would take something like a performance orientated V8 over a diesel.
Maybe the requirement for a 12 cylinder engine of at least 6 litres should be written into the convention on human rights?
Edited by MC Bodge on Friday 28th November 18:40
ArnieVXR said:
Losing the Monaro on a patch of oil:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FagIAFwOUzE
PS I would have beaten that Yank. My 60-ft times were rubbish due to the lack of a trans-brake.
Test run from inside the Audi (9-second pass roughly speaking):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79M8t7UEKk8
Witness the tatty tax disc hanging off the screen.
Me and the Audi losing this year's SuperCup championship by 0.1 seconds to John Sleath's diesel truck (oh the indignity):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XnJ25vvlM8
4-minutes 32-seconds in, though you should watch the rest
Whilst I'm sure many know that a 9 second pass is very quick - to make it easier to understand:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FagIAFwOUzE
PS I would have beaten that Yank. My 60-ft times were rubbish due to the lack of a trans-brake.
Test run from inside the Audi (9-second pass roughly speaking):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79M8t7UEKk8
Witness the tatty tax disc hanging off the screen.
Me and the Audi losing this year's SuperCup championship by 0.1 seconds to John Sleath's diesel truck (oh the indignity):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XnJ25vvlM8
4-minutes 32-seconds in, though you should watch the rest
The pick up did 0-155.7mph in 8.72 seconds
E65Ross said:
Are you for real? How come?
Before going for the M6 my dad test drove a 640d, which is basically as economical as the 30/35d variants yet more powerful, and he still ended up with the M6.
The M5 has a very decent range, it's faster, sounds nicer, and rides every bit as good as a normal 5er due to no run flats....I can't think of any reason why you'd rather the slower, less refined and more industrial engine over the M5; other than the save money?
Is it because the diesel can go further without stopping? Guessing the M5 is going to be all but identical but my old can can easily top 400+ miles to a tank, which seems perfectly fine. on a long drive you could nudge 500 miles. So why else would you prefer a less refined diesel to the V8 petrol, other than to save money?
My old M6 was delimited at Hartge in Germany, and it was surprisingly quick..none of that 155MPH limiter nonsense:Before going for the M6 my dad test drove a 640d, which is basically as economical as the 30/35d variants yet more powerful, and he still ended up with the M6.
The M5 has a very decent range, it's faster, sounds nicer, and rides every bit as good as a normal 5er due to no run flats....I can't think of any reason why you'd rather the slower, less refined and more industrial engine over the M5; other than the save money?
Is it because the diesel can go further without stopping? Guessing the M5 is going to be all but identical but my old can can easily top 400+ miles to a tank, which seems perfectly fine. on a long drive you could nudge 500 miles. So why else would you prefer a less refined diesel to the V8 petrol, other than to save money?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTMKkPxei0I
The V10 M5 is a pretty good example for this thread.
I recall driving from Germany into France in an estate one a few years back. It was a total barn stormer of a car. A genuinely phenomenal bit of kit. You could sling it into corners at any attitude and the computer just covered your errors. It was so much faster than the Tiv through Alsace. It soaked up bad surfaces, stuck to the road and was monumentally silent and comfortable. It was the most impressive generic modern car I've driven.
When I came back to the UK I was pretty convinced that if go and buy one. Just a few days back on out smaller and tighter roads I rapidly came to the conclusion that it would be pointless and no fun. That doesn't mean a lesser 5 series would score better, it wouldn't. If I was going to buy a 5 then I'd still buy the M or a 540 at worst (if there is one?).
Some cars are too good to be fun, others are so bad you end up pissing yourself laughing at 30 mph.
I recall driving from Germany into France in an estate one a few years back. It was a total barn stormer of a car. A genuinely phenomenal bit of kit. You could sling it into corners at any attitude and the computer just covered your errors. It was so much faster than the Tiv through Alsace. It soaked up bad surfaces, stuck to the road and was monumentally silent and comfortable. It was the most impressive generic modern car I've driven.
When I came back to the UK I was pretty convinced that if go and buy one. Just a few days back on out smaller and tighter roads I rapidly came to the conclusion that it would be pointless and no fun. That doesn't mean a lesser 5 series would score better, it wouldn't. If I was going to buy a 5 then I'd still buy the M or a 540 at worst (if there is one?).
Some cars are too good to be fun, others are so bad you end up pissing yourself laughing at 30 mph.
MC Bodge said:
FrankUnderwood said:
If cars cost 50p and we spent 5 minutes a day in one I would agree.
But that's not the case.
We tend to spend significant amounts of time in cars and for most people they're the second most expensive purchase.
Hence if you could afford to then you would take something like a performance orientated V8 over a diesel.
That may well be the case, but the bizarre hyperbole and emotion about the subject is quite amusing.But that's not the case.
We tend to spend significant amounts of time in cars and for most people they're the second most expensive purchase.
Hence if you could afford to then you would take something like a performance orientated V8 over a diesel.
Maybe the requirement for a 12 cylinder engine of at least 6 litres should be written into the convention on human rights?
Edited by MC Bodge on Friday 28th November 18:40
There are even pleasant 3 and 4 cylinder engines (only petrol, to be fair), but they are rare and aren't as pleasant as nice bigger engines. Examples of pleasant small engines - Mazda's current petrol engines; the 3 in the Mini; the 2.0 Ecoboost (I am told - haven't driven a car with it). Most are turds, though, in terms of feel, sound and enjoyment (see, e.g., the unbearable small tc petrol engines in VW and Merc offerings).
God bless the Germans for still producing big petrol engine, although they are on the way out! No interest in a current M3 for example, but I love the V8 one just for the engine note!
deadslow said:
MC Bodge said:
Maybe the requirement for a 12 cylinder engine of at least 6 litres should be written into the convention on human rights?
Great, I've had one, I am a human so I must be 'right'. 
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