RE: RPM Technik Porsche 996 CSR: Driven

RE: RPM Technik Porsche 996 CSR: Driven

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LordHaveMurci

12,045 posts

169 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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hondansx said:
If the 996 was good looking, they'd be worth more. It ain't, so they aren't.
Pretty sure a lot of people denounced the 964 in a similar way once wink

hondansx

4,569 posts

225 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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LordHaveMurci said:
hondansx said:
If the 996 was good looking, they'd be worth more. It ain't, so they aren't.
Pretty sure a lot of people denounced the 964 in a similar way once wink
I'd argue that is a simplistic view on things. The 993 is much more desirable, and a good manual car is hard to come by. As such, they have become more and more expensive so people look for the next best option - the 964.

LordHaveMurci

12,045 posts

169 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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anonymous said:
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And the CSL comparison is hardly fair, they are more expensive for starters & were a limited run - compare them to a GT3 if you must but I think I know how that might end up!

And horses for courses on 993's, looked at two before buying my 996, just don't get them at all. Not as good looking as the older cars, not as good dynamically as the later cars & don't even start on the ergonomics. But I don't have a beard, don't drink Old Badgers Todger or wear wooly hats so my opinion is worthless!

hughcam

419 posts

165 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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996's are a bargain but unless your planning to keep the CSR car for a long long time I think it would be a colossal waste of money..

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

234 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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hondansx said:
LordHaveMurci said:
hondansx said:
If the 996 was good looking, they'd be worth more. It ain't, so they aren't.
Pretty sure a lot of people denounced the 964 in a similar way once wink
I'd argue that is a simplistic view on things. The 993 is much more desirable, and a good manual car is hard to come by. As such, they have become more and more expensive so people look for the next best option - the 964.
Not sure that is true - Equivalent 964s and 993s are similar money i.e. C2 manual coupes.

Vacationboy

171 posts

113 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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is it just me, or is the 993 getting uglier and uglier - and the 996 the other way.

used to LOVE the 993, now the 964 looks much better.

design hasnt aged well imo.

LordHaveMurci

12,045 posts

169 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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Vacationboy said:
is it just me, or is the 993 getting uglier and uglier - and the 996 the other way.

used to LOVE the 993, now the 964 looks much better.

design hasnt aged well imo.
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sideways sid

1,371 posts

215 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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Sounds like a great final product, but c.£30k - or more if you don't buy the cheapest 996 you can find - takes it a little too close to a 996 GT3, which would be worth the extra, I suspect.

SidewaysSi

10,742 posts

234 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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If you forget the carbon bling, the main upgrades to the CSR are the diff and suspension therefore could no doubt be done for a lot less than the £16-19k range. I would want some proper seats and some other stuff like plastic windows etc as well.

GranCab

2,902 posts

146 months

LordHaveMurci

12,045 posts

169 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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GranCab said:
It's ugly, it's AWD, it's forced induction AND it's got hideous headlights apparently wink

EK993

1,925 posts

251 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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My how time changes opinions. Never thought I would see a 996 appreciation thread. For years now they have been derided as the ugly duckling, black sheep of the 911 lineage, worth little more than scrap value.

Now I am seeing posts declaring them more beautiful / desirable than the previous holy grail of 911's - the 993 !!

hughcam

419 posts

165 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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anonymous said:
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Im talking purely from a depreciation perspective thus my keep for a long long time comment. I bet the car drives fantastically but spending £30,000 all in to still have a car where the bores will eventually turn into the shape of cam lobes and may at best be worth £5k over a standard minter seems abit backwards to me.

Each to their own though and I am glad that there are options for people!

Bloitus

110 posts

163 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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EK993 said:
My how time changes opinions. Never thought I would see a 996 appreciation thread. For years now they have been derided as the ugly duckling, black sheep of the 911 lineage, worth little more than scrap value.

Now I am seeing posts declaring them more beautiful / desirable than the previous holy grail of 911's - the 993 !!
I know, does make me chuckle! i'm sure only last week there was a thread on the porsshe forum asking people to state what their least favourite model was... how times have changed. smile

loveice

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649 posts

247 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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Vacationboy said:
is it just me, or is the 993 getting uglier and uglier - and the 996 the other way.

used to LOVE the 993, now the 964 looks much better.

design hasnt aged well imo.
I think in years to come, more and more people will release early 911/912 (long nose), narrow body 964 and Gen1 996 (without GT3 bodykit) are 'classic' 911 exterior designs.

Scottie - NW

1,289 posts

233 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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hughcam said:
Im talking purely from a depreciation perspective thus my keep for a long long time comment. I bet the car drives fantastically but spending £30,000 all in to still have a car where the bores will eventually turn into the shape of cam lobes and may at best be worth £5k over a standard minter seems abit backwards to me.

Each to their own though and I am glad that there are options for people!
I was thinking the same as you. You could spend 30k on the 996, and be lucky to get 15k if that on a private sale. Or you could spend the 30k or less on a nice 997 and only lose a very little per year in depreciation.

unpc

2,835 posts

213 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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As a keeper I can see some sense in this and you could probably do it for less and do it bit by bit. Problem is, it's hard to improve the looks of the thing (except crashing ithehe) and that will always keep values low and they're hardly likely to become scarce unlike the air cooled stuff.

In a way I'm tempted but I'd have to find a cost effective way of ditching the fried eggs. Anybody know of a way?

muppet42

331 posts

205 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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I keep seeing 996s like this... http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p... ...and even cheaper Boxter S's and thinking, "Hmm, could I manage that on a finance deal...?" Honestly, how hard could it be? laugh

The shape of the 996 has grown on me though. Like a lot of folk, I used to prefer the 993 and to an extent, still do but in plain, non-turbo spec I think the 996 is an elegant shape and a slightly modded one like this appeals. The Turbo, I'm not sure about though - the headlights on those (adopted by later 996s) look a bit awkward to me. Point to point, I'd imagine you'd struggle to get a quicker car for the money.

daytona365

1,773 posts

164 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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Why are these so hated ? Surely with the addition of a strengthened bearing, they can run with the best...........Can't they ?

PATTERNPART

693 posts

201 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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RPM nice people to deal with in my experience.