RE: Range Rover 'Suffix A': Spotted

RE: Range Rover 'Suffix A': Spotted

Thursday 27th November 2014

Range Rover 'Suffix A': Spotted

Early and unrestored Rangie shows how the classy 4x4 is really done



You see quite a lot driving around California. Driving out of LA to Hungry Valley for our off-roading escapade, the amount of Range Rover products stuck in the city's interminable congestion is remarkable. Of course you always notice a vehicle more when you're driving one but the amount of Evoques, Sports and Range Rovers was amazing. They're everywhere.

Tuscan blue, Palamino beige and just fantastic
Tuscan blue, Palamino beige and just fantastic
Now I'm not one to deride Range Rover's recent success pursuing a different type of customer and creating new cars. Good luck to 'em. But the proliferation of, shall we say, California-spec Range Rovers does cause a yearning for the more simple, less ostentatious Rangies of old. The previous L322 Range Rover was good, this TD6 diesel and this V8 pulling off a subdued spec very nicely.

But an original Rangie? Even better. Yes, they're getting expensive but which classics of similar stature aren't? Early 911s, original Minis, the E-Type; all are automotive design icons, instantly recognisable and more desirable because of it. Ask a child to draw a 4x4 and it will look like a Range Rover. Ask them to name a 4x4 and they will (hopefully) say Range Rover. I'd argue you would be able to show a lot of people any Range Rover without the badging and they could identify it. There's that inimitable Range Roverness about them that, perhaps ever so slightly, the current L405 is missing.

Anyway, back to the car in question. The advert states it features in the January 2015 issue of Land Rover Monthly so that could be worth seeking out. It comes from very early in the Range Rover's production life (1971) and is therefore a two-door manual. The Tuscan Blue paint is original and just beautifully tatty. It's well-worn like an expensive piece of old furniture; not at its best anymore but still so luxurious. The Palamino Beige vinyl has been restored as the original cracked.

See here for how expectations of luxury change
See here for how expectations of luxury change
A mechanical 'recommissioning' took place in 2002 so it may be worth a refresh of a few components again. It's over 40 years old now and so, despite being a fairly simple car compared to the later Rangies, it will need to be cared for like any other classic. Kudos to a buyer who takes it green laning and then onto the country pub though.

In this instance the vendor really is right, there probably won't be many more opportunities to buy a Range Rover like this. As an addition to any collection of classics it would surely slip in just perfectly.


RANGE ROVER
Engine:
3,532cc V8
Transmission: 4-speed manual, four-wheel drive
Power (hp): 132@5,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 185@2,500rpm
MPG: Not bloody likely
CO2: See above
First registered: 1971
Recorded mileage: 52,000
Price new: £1,998
Yours for: £39,995

See the original advert here.



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fwaggie

Original Poster:

1,644 posts

200 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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So I could buy this for £40k, or this

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C563566
(Range Rover TDV8 Vogue 2011)

for £34k?

Not a hard choice IMO, I'd buy the comfort and let this one rot every day.

buckline

377 posts

163 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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A great looking car, though the money is a little strong!

soad

32,894 posts

176 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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No, thanks. (Older) G Class Benz for the win.

DonkeyApple

55,255 posts

169 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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Had a good crawl over that car prior to it being tidied up. It is unbelievable. Wasn't a spec of rust and the patina on the panels was superb.

These command strong money because they are a must have edition for proper collections.

Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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DonkeyApple said:
Had a good crawl over that car prior to it being tidied up. It is unbelievable. Wasn't a spec of rust and the patina on the panels was superb.

These command strong money because they are a must have edition for proper collections.
Sounds fantastic, I'd certainly bag it!

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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buckline said:
A great looking car, though the money is a little strong!
There was a link on another thread to one that sold for over 100k!

soxboy

6,218 posts

219 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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DonkeyApple said:
Had a good crawl over that car prior to it being tidied up. It is unbelievable. Wasn't a spec of rust and the patina on the panels was superb.

These command strong money because they are a must have edition for proper collections.
It shows looking on the posts here that you either 'get it' or you don't. I do 'get it', I just can't afford it!!!

A.J.M

7,907 posts

186 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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Got the LRM mag with it featured in the house.

Early Suffix A models will be one of those classics that will have rising values.

The key is to mix usage to keep it working and not needing work, but to keep the miles low so not to deteriorate the condition.


mrclav

1,295 posts

223 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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soad said:
No, thanks. (Older) G Class Benz for the win.
I concur.

Vacationboy

171 posts

113 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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thats alot of dosh for something inferior in every way to a G-wagon...

wouldnt even pay 5k for it.

strummerville

1,015 posts

127 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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I think these are the best looking and most iconic Rangie - I had a Dinky model one in the mid 70s as a kid. However, like all decent old cars I'd be petrified of using them in case they got stolen!

soad

32,894 posts

176 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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Features a single pipe exhaust system, how things have changed!
Equipped with starting handle (remember these?) too, as standard.

Found this on YouTube (poor quality): Old Range Rover Ad


wildcat45

8,073 posts

189 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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What's "Suffix A" an early chassis number or something?

I am so glad these cars are getting the eye of collectors as they really are beautiful things. They were scrapers 20 years ago, getting bobtailed for extreme offloading fun.

They just look right, perfectly proportioned and with a timeless styling. You could lightly rework that shape today and create a modern car more or less like it. It doesn't look like it came off a drawing board in the late 1960s. Not futuristic like a Citroen of the time, just kind of timeless. Classical architecture in car form.

To think I have wanted one since I got my first Dinky toy Range Rover in about 1974 and that when I had the chance of one a few years ago for very little money I bottled out.

Why was I so sensible?


GranCab

2,902 posts

146 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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... or you buy this one for £6750 .....


soad

32,894 posts

176 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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wildcat45 said:
What's "Suffix A" an early chassis number or something?
That's a VIN suffix.

I believe these are correct:

1970 Range Rover Production Year - VIN Suffix A - Released: June 17th 1970
1971 Range Rover Production Year - VIN Suffix A - Released: 1971
1972 Range Rover Production Year - VIN Suffix A - Released: 1972
1973 Range Rover Model Year - VIN Suffix B - Released: January 1973
1974 Range Rover Model Year - VIN Suffix C - Released: October 1973
1975 Range Rover Model Year - VIN Suffix D - Released: April 1975
1976 Range Rover Model Year - VIN Suffix E - Released: October 1975
1977 Range Rover Model Year - VIN Suffix E - Released: October 1976
1978 Range Rover Model Year - VIN Suffix F - Released: October 1977
1979 Range Rover Model Year - VIN Suffix F - Released: September 1978

ck76

71 posts

154 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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If we're talking blowing silly money on classic Rangies, I'm having this http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/l...


Edited by ck76 on Thursday 27th November 13:49

soad

32,894 posts

176 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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ck76 said:
Same car? http://www.classicdriver.com/en/car/land-rover/ran...

Your link doesn't work for me.
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/l...

Edited by soad on Thursday 27th November 13:45

ck76

71 posts

154 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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soad said:
Yep, looks like it. Flashing lights, an uzi holder and a V8...happy daze tongue out

Mr Will

13,719 posts

206 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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fwaggie said:
So I could buy this for £40k, or this

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C563566
(Range Rover TDV8 Vogue 2011)

for £34k?

Not a hard choice IMO, I'd buy the comfort and let this one rot every day.
What will each of them be worth 5 years from now? I guess one of them will still be £40k and the other quite a lot less...

Corkman

15 posts

134 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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GranCab said:
... or you buy this one for £6750 .....

Originality counts for an awful lot but surely not a price difference of £33k

I can't get my head around this... Looking at their other stock I can't imagine the dealer with the light blue model doesn't know what they have.

To the same end, I'd like to think the PH advertised model isn't being overly inflated.

Anyone know where the market really is on these?