Tax The Rich Flaming Miura In Court
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There was a video in the Tax The Rich YouTube channel a while back of a Lamborghini Miura going up in flames. It would seem the owner has decided to sue the garage who'd just serviced the car.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-ord...
It's going to be interesting to see how this turns out. I was surprised to see that the burnt out shell of a Miura is still worth £200k
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-ord...
It's going to be interesting to see how this turns out. I was surprised to see that the burnt out shell of a Miura is still worth £200k
I'm not sure the £200k value relates to the physical car itself, especially if it was totally destroyed, the real value is in the cars identity. Not so much in a ringing/ illegal way, more in that it can be rebuilt/replaced with new or second hand parts. Coachbuilding a new bodyshell, whilst expensive, isnt too difficult so there's no doubt it can live again. Reminds me of "Old Number One"...
Also interesting in how I think they have a valid claim against the servicing garage, you really would expect a "marque expert" to be able to service and check over a notoriously tempremental car like that and it at least make the journey home in one piece, but their case rests on 2 potential causes, the first showing a total lack of knowledge about how an engine works, the second scenario thrown in almost as an afterthought seems the most likely and a very common problem with those cars.
Also interesting in how I think they have a valid claim against the servicing garage, you really would expect a "marque expert" to be able to service and check over a notoriously tempremental car like that and it at least make the journey home in one piece, but their case rests on 2 potential causes, the first showing a total lack of knowledge about how an engine works, the second scenario thrown in almost as an afterthought seems the most likely and a very common problem with those cars.
kev b said:
It beggars belief that a carb fed classic Lamborghini, well known for catching fire, did not carry a fire extinguisher.
Quite!I've spoken with an owner of a well sorted Miura SV, and he said what a b
d it is to start - the balance between perfection and flooded is a very fine line.Perhaps the son, less experienced with a bank of Webers, flooded it initially, hence the rough running. Stopped and was told by mechanic to go back to the garage. Restarted a partly flooded engine with yet more throttle pumping causing a blowback up the manifolds to ignite the flooded petrol??
Vanin said:
Perhaps the son, less experienced with a bank of Webers, flooded it initially, hence the rough running. Stopped and was told by mechanic to go back to the garage. Restarted a partly flooded engine with yet more throttle pumping causing a blowback up the manifolds to ignite the flooded petrol??
That sounds quite possible, trouble is now proving it. I think it'll come down to who has the best lawyers and who can present the best case to the judge.
At least that article is slightly better written than the Daily Mail "Spark plugs cause Million pound Fire Ball!" balls. I do wish my wife wouldn't read such crap and then argue with me over spark plugs causing a car to catch fire.
Could it be proved that an incorrect spark plug heat caused difficulty in starting, hence flooding, fuel blow back on to hot exhaust and then heart breaking fire? I suppose incorrect set up could be argued as said before though an SV is not a Gallardo!
Could it be proved that an incorrect spark plug heat caused difficulty in starting, hence flooding, fuel blow back on to hot exhaust and then heart breaking fire? I suppose incorrect set up could be argued as said before though an SV is not a Gallardo!
Interesting comments by the lawyer. Obviously, had absolutely no idea how an engine works. Shows what absolute bks theses guys say most of the time, and you get to find out when it's a subject you know more about than them. The heat range of plugs only affects the engine performance. I had 2 sets of plugs for my Sierra Cosworth, courtesy of the guy in the FoMoCo spark plug lab. One for average use UK, the other for a continent motorway blast. I'm wondering if the son of the owner, in his ignorance, pulled out the choke on the Webbers, and it progressively ran rich until hot, when it stalled. As almost most owners of car with DCOE's or similar will tell you, cold engine, summer, one throttle pump to start, winter two. Never touch the choke.
ks theses guys say most of the time, and you get to find out when it's a subject you know more about than them. The heat range of plugs only affects the engine performance. I had 2 sets of plugs for my Sierra Cosworth, courtesy of the guy in the FoMoCo spark plug lab. One for average use UK, the other for a continent motorway blast. I'm wondering if the son of the owner, in his ignorance, pulled out the choke on the Webbers, and it progressively ran rich until hot, when it stalled. As almost most owners of car with DCOE's or similar will tell you, cold engine, summer, one throttle pump to start, winter two. Never touch the choke.Am I the only one wondering why it went to the Main Dealer in the first place? I'm no expert on Lamborghini dealers and their level of expertise on older models, but I'd have thought that it would be better looked after at a Classic Marque specialist. You wouldn't take your Jaguar XK120 to the local dealer would you?
Maybe he was trying to protect the RV by having a Full Dealer Service History
Maybe he was trying to protect the RV by having a Full Dealer Service History
anonymous said:
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I'm surprised the insurers didn't try to get out of paying the claim if, as suggested above, there is a possibility of 'driver error' causing the fire. Perhaps they did, we'll never know. Very hard to prove I would imagine.CYMR0 said:
Get out of here with your reasonableness and facts, we don't like that!
Fane said:
Am I the only one wondering why it went to the Main Dealer in the first place? I'm no expert on Lamborghini dealers and their level of expertise on older models, but I'd have thought that it would be better looked after at a Classic Marque specialist. You wouldn't take your Jaguar XK120 to the local dealer would you?
Maybe he was trying to protect the RV by having a Full Dealer Service History
It looks as if HR Owen have branched out into classic cars under new ownership...Maybe he was trying to protect the RV by having a Full Dealer Service History
http://www.footmanjames.co.uk/blog/luxury-and-clas...
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