RE: Shed Of The Week: MG TF

[wildcat45]

I started this thread a while back its my MGF story.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

[chris watton]

BlimeyCharlie said:

FWDRacer said:

jamespink said:

I stand corrected and apologise to you all. Does that mean it was something else that trashed the British car industry, other than these shocking cars?

Idiots like you continue to do it just as much damage. (... and just checked your car profile - all too predictable, do you drive it around in daylight with the fog lights on and failed to spec the optional indicator pack?).

Fight! Fight! Fight!
Seriously though, I thought Rover and MG whatever 'went' bust because the product was crap and charging BMW money for it at the same time?
Funny how when given the choice we go for a drop of import action, when clearly a BMW of the time was better, cheaper, with better resale value, better image and not having the stigma of 'smelly old man' about it.

Except, that's not really true, is it?

I remember that time well, and remember seeing lots of new MG's on the road. They weren't overpriced at all - you could buy a brand new ZR160, with air con, leather trim, AP brakes and alloys for £11k. I know this because I bought my wife one!

They were popular and good value for money, with decent performance.

I am assuming you never bought one, judging from your shallow and very clichéd post?

Lots of younger people liked them because they were affordable.

HTH

[iloveboost]

Merry said:

I wouldn't be so sure of that, I've noticed various bits and pieces are becoming available at Moss and other such places, so spares isn't an issue. People also seem to keep hold of them and are fairly passionate about keeping them in good order.

I reckon numbers will level out over the next few years and stay that way, they certainly
can't get much cheaper!

I agree and the MG F can't get any cheaper as they are about fifteen to twenty years old! Perhaps some of the TF cars will drop a bit but at £800 if it's got no issues it sounds good value. I think you'd pay a bit more for the equivalent Toyota MR2 Mk3, but I've no idea if the TF is better or worse to drive.

[sef535]

cant really argue with that ..... good shedding !!

[MGJohn]

TwigtheWonderkid said:

MGJohn said:

TwigtheWonderkid said:

marcosgt said:

I bet in 10-15 years time people will be as enthusiastic about these as they are MGBs and Midgets now.

M.

I bet they won't.

That's a bet you'll lose.

I doubt it. Sure, they'll always be a fan club, and some affection for them, but they will never ever be cherished like MGBs and Midgets.

When I bought the first of five MGBs back in the early 1960s, "true" MG enthusiasts castigated me that it was not a proper MG... whatever that is... Nothing stays the same or lasts forever.

[AW111]

MGJohn said:

Most MGs and Rovers are far more highly valued in other parts of the world than here in the UK.

We've numerous 1.8 K-Series cars in the family, most normally aspirated and two turbocharged.


<snip>

Many like them and with good reason. Despite what some would have you believe, decent motors and widely and rightly appreciated in many parts of the world apart from ....

We know that you personally can fix any k-series in half an hour for pennies, while all other mechanics are hopeless fools. You tell us on any thread that mentions k-series'.

In this part of the world, British cars have not sold in any quantity since the 70's, and I don't think we saw any modern MG's apart from the F / TF. There are quite a few Land/Range rovers about; occasionally you will even see one off the bitumen, but rarely.

[mrtwisty]

nsm3 said:

Rover 400 with a rag top

I don't even know where to start with this comment...

[talkingcars]

s m said:

So something like an oil temp gauge might be a good addition?

Fitted as standard to all MGF's and MGTFs.

The advice is not to drive hard until you see the needle move....

[kambites]

AW111 said:

I don't think we saw any modern MG's apart from the F / TF.

This is not a particularly bad thing.

The F sold well in the UK though, it out-sold the MX5 (and indeed every other sports car) every year it was on sale. It was also generally very well received by the press, albeit before the head gasket problems with the K-series were widely publicised.

[soad]

mrtwisty said:

nsm3 said:

Rover 400 with a rag top

I don't even know where to start with this comment...

Perhaps he meant one of these.

[Malachimon]

For the money I prefer these to the MX5 but every time I see one driving around I think "What's wrong with the MGB?"

[B'stard Child]

Malachimon said:

For the money I prefer these to the MX5 but every time I see one driving around I think "What's wrong with the MGB?"

Err - they are decades older, have a prehistoric asthmatic engine, cart spring suspension, frequently driven by old people with hats and most have rust covered by body filler and paint

[Roverload]

kambites said:

s m said:

People don't seem to dislike the Elise/Caterham engine quite as much

I wondered what was different about them

There is two fundamental differences - the Elise and Caterham are worth enough that no-one worries too much about a 500 quid bill to fix the head gasket; and they are owned by people who take enough interest in their cars to look after the engine properly so it's less likely to go in the first place.

Utter horse st! If you don't know the difference just say "I don't know".

[s m]

soad said:

mrtwisty said:

nsm3 said:

Rover 400 with a rag top

I don't even know where to start with this comment...

Perhaps he meant one of these.

I was thinking he maybe meant the 200

[MGJohn]

AW111 said:

MGJohn said:

Most MGs and Rovers are far more highly valued in other parts of the world than here in the UK.

We've numerous 1.8 K-Series cars in the family, most normally aspirated and two turbocharged.


<snip>

Many like them and with good reason. Despite what some would have you believe, decent motors and widely and rightly appreciated in many parts of the world apart from ....

We know that you personally can fix any k-series in half an hour for pennies

We .... Is that the royal wee ?... what a load of urine AW111!

The K-Series is a doddle to work on. Did you know that also?

Pheasant!

[Petrolhead]

Thanks Pistonheads for the article. This is the car I am selling.

Now I was never a TF lover having had Caterhams and now having a MX5 however I was pleasantly supprised how well the car goes and handles. It looks as good in the flash as it does in the photos.

I need to move this on as I need the space for a classic Mustang

[kambites]

Roverload said:

Utter horse st! If you don't know the difference just say "I don't know".

What a delightfully polite, helpful comment.

[Rovinghawk]

Years ago I took my MGF (with hardtop & an MG maestro throttle body)to the Nurburgring- it got me round in 10.18 despite me never having been there before. They're not bad cars if you look after them properly.

[Malachimon]

B'stard Child said:

Err - they are decades older, have a prehistoric asthmatic engine, cart spring suspension, frequently driven by old people with hats and most have rust covered by body filler and paint

True but they are more fun to drive cheaper to run, far better looking, loaded with character and have a much better ability to charm people.

Even if it is slow and old

[chris watton]

Malachimon said:

B'stard Child said:

Err - they are decades older, have a prehistoric asthmatic engine, cart spring suspension, frequently driven by old people with hats and most have rust covered by body filler and paint

True but they are more fun to drive cheaper to run, far better looking, loaded with character and have a much better ability to charm people.

Even if it is slow and old

You forgot to add:

'In my opinion'.