RE: Mitsubishi Evo X: PH Carpool
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Similar story: my first year of driving was done in mom's SEAT Ibiza, now I have an MX-5 (NB) (which is in no way comparable to the madness of an EVO X, but still very exciting for a 19 year old).
Parents also wanted me to have a new car instead of a used one (most likely a new Ibiza...) but I managed to convince them with man-maths: Told them an MX-5 would hold its value very decently, whereas any supermini wouldn't.
Happy motoring Ajay!
Parents also wanted me to have a new car instead of a used one (most likely a new Ibiza...) but I managed to convince them with man-maths: Told them an MX-5 would hold its value very decently, whereas any supermini wouldn't.
Happy motoring Ajay!
"Considering I am 18 it's fair to say that I am part of the 'PlayStation generation' so many of my dream cars are from the 90s until now. As a young petrolhead Gran Turismo quickly became a large part of my life and through this medium I found a passion with Japanese sports cars. I dreamt of owning Impreza 22Bs, Hakosukas, R34s, R32s, Supras and so on.
If he is 18. How can he be part of the "Playstation generation". He was born 1 year before Gran Turismo was released
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If he is 18. How can he be part of the "Playstation generation". He was born 1 year before Gran Turismo was released
.thatdude said:
Bloody hell, at 18 I was riding a s
tty little scooter.
In the USA, what's insurance like? In the UK an 18 year old would pay some incredibly ludicrous premium for one of these (if s/he could be offered insurance at all!)
you wouldnt get any insurance offer over here at all for that. Long gone are the days where an 18 year old can insure something like that at a high pricetty little scooter. In the USA, what's insurance like? In the UK an 18 year old would pay some incredibly ludicrous premium for one of these (if s/he could be offered insurance at all!)
Being a British expat now in USA let me put across the differences in the car world.
Insurance generally a lot cheaper. Always see what appears to be high school kids in imprezas pretty much every day.
Cars generally a lot more expensive to buy especially used. E.g. e36 m3 north america spec (so not a real M) still up for $25k plus. You can buy an e90 m3 or what ever for £19k in the UK. Being your average poor 26 year old I was absolutely wounded to find I could no longer play around with fast-ish cars within the £10k bracket which I once did in the UK. Shed of the week would be a whole different thing out here.
Not really a steady market for used cars, its like they just think of a number and try sell the car for that.
Average miles per year around 30k (at least where I am in Connecticut). While looking for a 2010 car I found 70% had over 100k miles. Not great when service intervals are usually 10000 miles.
Cars you'd have to pay to get scrapped in UK, owners here still looking for £3-4k sterling. E.g. Volvo 850 late 90's with 190k miles u for $5,000.
Anything over 8 years old is considered old but purely down to they don't really give a st about their cars and are pretty battered after 5 years from new.
YOU HAVE TO PAY CURRENT BOOK VALUE TAX EVERY YEAR. Where I am tax is 6% so that's 6% of what you initially paid then 6% of book value every year after that until you no longer own it.
Generally private sellers and dealers have no clue on cars. I saw an advert by a dealer for a car where in the description it read "speedometer goes up to 150mph".
To finish on a good note.... petrol is cheap, in Connecticut its exactly half what I paid in London. Standard pump fuel can be between 89 - 93 Ron. Shell optimax stuff is 95 Ron.
Oh and something very strange is most engine sizes start at 2.5 litres but shocking low on power, generally average 2.5 litres have between 110 -140 bhp. My car experience may not be as extensive as others but that to me is weired as normally that sort of power you get from 1.somethings so why such big engines?
Insurance generally a lot cheaper. Always see what appears to be high school kids in imprezas pretty much every day.
Cars generally a lot more expensive to buy especially used. E.g. e36 m3 north america spec (so not a real M) still up for $25k plus. You can buy an e90 m3 or what ever for £19k in the UK. Being your average poor 26 year old I was absolutely wounded to find I could no longer play around with fast-ish cars within the £10k bracket which I once did in the UK. Shed of the week would be a whole different thing out here.
Not really a steady market for used cars, its like they just think of a number and try sell the car for that.
Average miles per year around 30k (at least where I am in Connecticut). While looking for a 2010 car I found 70% had over 100k miles. Not great when service intervals are usually 10000 miles.
Cars you'd have to pay to get scrapped in UK, owners here still looking for £3-4k sterling. E.g. Volvo 850 late 90's with 190k miles u for $5,000.
Anything over 8 years old is considered old but purely down to they don't really give a s
t about their cars and are pretty battered after 5 years from new.YOU HAVE TO PAY CURRENT BOOK VALUE TAX EVERY YEAR. Where I am tax is 6% so that's 6% of what you initially paid then 6% of book value every year after that until you no longer own it.
Generally private sellers and dealers have no clue on cars. I saw an advert by a dealer for a car where in the description it read "speedometer goes up to 150mph".
To finish on a good note.... petrol is cheap, in Connecticut its exactly half what I paid in London. Standard pump fuel can be between 89 - 93 Ron. Shell optimax stuff is 95 Ron.
Oh and something very strange is most engine sizes start at 2.5 litres but shocking low on power, generally average 2.5 litres have between 110 -140 bhp. My car experience may not be as extensive as others but that to me is weired as normally that sort of power you get from 1.somethings so why such big engines?
Edited by dench on Tuesday 2nd December 05:39
Edited by dench on Tuesday 2nd December 05:44
Edited by dench on Tuesday 2nd December 05:45
Thanks for all the mixed responses about the Carpool. To answer some of the more common questions, "Insurance?????" Insurance in the states, while bad, is nowhere near as bad as it is in the UK. If I lived in the UK I can be damm sure I would not be in an Evo or anything near that caliber. "my parents would help under one condition, it had to be new..." I didn't want to come off as a spoiled prick but I guess I messed up. When I said this I meant it to mean I couldn't get anything used and do it up. I would have much preferred to get a used Supra or a Hawkeye Subie and do it to the nines over the winter and spring months for the summer. "I am from the gran turismo generation..." I should have specified Playstation 2. That was my bad. Yes I was born in 96' and I am not an OG GT player. I started on a PS2 in kindergarten on GT3. Maybe Video Game Generation would have been better. Again thanks for a warm welcome to the forum.
Edited by aston6 on Tuesday 2nd December 05:10
Edited by aston6 on Tuesday 2nd December 05:28
Reavenger said:
Fantastic first car. Wish my parents had said to me I could only have a new car for my first car!
White and black on this car looks great. The contrast shows up the good parts of the car.
Nice change to have a US carpool as well. When you say petrol being your biggest expense, spare a thought for Evo X runners over here paying $1.60 ish a litre
Did you consider the SST (6 speed Dual Clutch)? I've heard it's actually good for its time.
Thanks, and yeah I can't begin to imagine running an Evo with the fuel costs you have. The reason I went for the manual was price, in the US we only have 2 versions, the GSR(Manual) and MR(SST), and he MR is a good 5k more than the GSR. Plus the dealer working with us gave us 5k off the price of the car so a good 10k difference Also manual gearboxes are just brilliant and good fun. Would always opt for a Manual when given the option.White and black on this car looks great. The contrast shows up the good parts of the car.
Nice change to have a US carpool as well. When you say petrol being your biggest expense, spare a thought for Evo X runners over here paying $1.60 ish a litre
Did you consider the SST (6 speed Dual Clutch)? I've heard it's actually good for its time.
Edited by aston6 on Tuesday 2nd December 05:28
bobbybee said:
toon10 said:
Don't these things have rediculous servic intervals?
They used to, but when the X came out the servicing period was extended to every 9,000 miles, still around £500 a time though, IIRC
Sampaio said:
Similar story: my first year of driving was done in mom's SEAT Ibiza, now I have an MX-5 (NB) (which is in no way comparable to the madness of an EVO X, but still very exciting for a 19 year old).
Parents also wanted me to have a new car instead of a used one (most likely a new Ibiza...) but I managed to convince them with man-maths: Told them an MX-5 would hold its value very decently, whereas any supermini wouldn't.
Happy motoring Ajay!
Glad to see im not he only one lol. Good luck with your MX-5! Should be a fun project.Parents also wanted me to have a new car instead of a used one (most likely a new Ibiza...) but I managed to convince them with man-maths: Told them an MX-5 would hold its value very decently, whereas any supermini wouldn't.
Happy motoring Ajay!
Thanks again and Happy Motoring to you as well
Great choice, impressive first car indeed.
I've warmed to these a lot since trying a GSR earlier in the year - shame they didn't stick a 6 speed manual in but they're great in manual form. The MR I found really quite disappointing a few years back, but I find myself torn between an STI and Evo X GSR for some winter shenanigans now.
Enjoy lime rock, it's one of my favorites and great for Evos. As for the 32 GTR, prepare for lots of money on tuning if you hope to capture a fraction of the excitement an Evo can deliver at speeds you won't get jailed for. They're great but very different.
I've warmed to these a lot since trying a GSR earlier in the year - shame they didn't stick a 6 speed manual in but they're great in manual form. The MR I found really quite disappointing a few years back, but I find myself torn between an STI and Evo X GSR for some winter shenanigans now.
Enjoy lime rock, it's one of my favorites and great for Evos. As for the 32 GTR, prepare for lots of money on tuning if you hope to capture a fraction of the excitement an Evo can deliver at speeds you won't get jailed for. They're great but very different.
New car prices in the US appear much lower than in Europe.
People appear To hang onto them for a long time, though. There doesn't appear to be a general obsession with new cars (other than for the OP's family!).
There are wealthy people in all countries, but Sixth-formers in the UK don't often own new über-saloons even in wealthy areas.
Insurance is an odd one. The liability
Must be similar across different nations, surely?
Ps. In NZ, car insurance is/was optional! 18 year old in Skylines and Supras being fairly common.
People appear To hang onto them for a long time, though. There doesn't appear to be a general obsession with new cars (other than for the OP's family!).
There are wealthy people in all countries, but Sixth-formers in the UK don't often own new über-saloons even in wealthy areas.
Insurance is an odd one. The liability
Must be similar across different nations, surely?
Ps. In NZ, car insurance is/was optional! 18 year old in Skylines and Supras being fairly common.
Edited by MC Bodge on Tuesday 2nd December 07:41
aston6 said:
Konan said:
I'm not sure that's a '5 speed' issue, just a remarkably short top gear! Really? 4K @ 80mph?
Thats a good point. And yeah 4k @ 80mph. Its ridiculous but price you pay for mental car lolEdited by Konan on Monday 1st December 14:22
MustardCutter said:
My Celica does 80mph at 4k rpm in 6th and is far more tame than an evo. It must be a jap thing...
I seem to remember my brothers Mk1 Suzuki Swift GTI pulling 4k in top at 70mph back in the day. It felt like it wanted to race when you were trying to cruise on the motorway. Quite tiresome, especially after he fitted the cherry bomb exhaust. dench said:
Being a British expat now in USA let me put across the differences in the car world.
YOU HAVE TO PAY CURRENT BOOK VALUE TAX EVERY YEAR. Where I am tax is 6% so that's 6% of what you initially paid then 6% of book value every year after that until you no longer own it.
That's a bit rich having to pay that each year, is that for every state !YOU HAVE TO PAY CURRENT BOOK VALUE TAX EVERY YEAR. Where I am tax is 6% so that's 6% of what you initially paid then 6% of book value every year after that until you no longer own it.
Edited by dench on Tuesday 2nd December 05:45
Great first car though, black wheels certainly look better on it.
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