RE: Mitsubishi Evo X: PH Carpool
Discussion
dc2rr07 said:
dench said:
Being a British expat now in USA let me put across the differences in the car world.
YOU HAVE TO PAY CURRENT BOOK VALUE TAX EVERY YEAR. Where I am tax is 6% so that's 6% of what you initially paid then 6% of book value every year after that until you no longer own it.
That's a bit rich having to pay that each year, is that for every state !YOU HAVE TO PAY CURRENT BOOK VALUE TAX EVERY YEAR. Where I am tax is 6% so that's 6% of what you initially paid then 6% of book value every year after that until you no longer own it.
Edited by dench on Tuesday 2nd December 05:45
Great first car though, black wheels certainly look better on it.
Great car as your first motor. That said, I did not entirely enjoy the direction Mitsubishi took the X in. It was a bit softer, bigger and less focused. It was almost like Mitsubishi knew the war was over; the rally reps were due to be consigned to history, asking themselves "where do we go now?".
My favourite Lancer Evolution (that I've driven, at least) was a black VIII. It was really something quite marvellous and more exciting than the X, though my dream Evo is typically a V or VI!
My favourite Lancer Evolution (that I've driven, at least) was a black VIII. It was really something quite marvellous and more exciting than the X, though my dream Evo is typically a V or VI!
dench said:
Being a British expat now in USA let me put across the differences in the car world.
Insurance generally a lot cheaper. Always see what appears to be high school kids in imprezas pretty much every day.
Cars generally a lot more expensive to buy especially used. E.g. e36 m3 north america spec (so not a real M) still up for $25k plus. You can buy an e90 m3 or what ever for £19k in the UK. Being your average poor 26 year old I was absolutely wounded to find I could no longer play around with fast-ish cars within the £10k bracket which I once did in the UK. Shed of the week would be a whole different thing out here.
Not really a steady market for used cars, its like they just think of a number and try sell the car for that.
Average miles per year around 30k (at least where I am in Connecticut). While looking for a 2010 car I found 70% had over 100k miles. Not great when service intervals are usually 10000 miles.
Cars you'd have to pay to get scrapped in UK, owners here still looking for £3-4k sterling. E.g. Volvo 850 late 90's with 190k miles u for $5,000.
Anything over 8 years old is considered old but purely down to they don't really give a s
t about their cars and are pretty battered after 5 years from new.
YOU HAVE TO PAY CURRENT BOOK VALUE TAX EVERY YEAR. Where I am tax is 6% so that's 6% of what you initially paid then 6% of book value every year after that until you no longer own it.
Generally private sellers and dealers have no clue on cars. I saw an advert by a dealer for a car where in the description it read "speedometer goes up to 150mph".
To finish on a good note.... petrol is cheap, in Connecticut its exactly half what I paid in London. Standard pump fuel can be between 89 - 93 Ron. Shell optimax stuff is 95
Oh and something very strange is most engine sizes start at 2.5 litres but shocking low on power, generally average 2.5 litres have between 110 -140 bhp. My car experience may not be as extensive as others but that to me is weired as normally that sort of power you get from 1.somethings so why such big engines?
Big lazy engines don't need to make a ton of power. They'll do a bazillion miles on nothing more than oil changes and a set of plugs every decade with little effort. Not trying to teach you how to suck eggs but you may wish to check the differences between how the U.S. and UK / Europe calculate their octane ratings too, 89 here doesn't mean 89 RON as it would in the UK.Insurance generally a lot cheaper. Always see what appears to be high school kids in imprezas pretty much every day.
Cars generally a lot more expensive to buy especially used. E.g. e36 m3 north america spec (so not a real M) still up for $25k plus. You can buy an e90 m3 or what ever for £19k in the UK. Being your average poor 26 year old I was absolutely wounded to find I could no longer play around with fast-ish cars within the £10k bracket which I once did in the UK. Shed of the week would be a whole different thing out here.
Not really a steady market for used cars, its like they just think of a number and try sell the car for that.
Average miles per year around 30k (at least where I am in Connecticut). While looking for a 2010 car I found 70% had over 100k miles. Not great when service intervals are usually 10000 miles.
Cars you'd have to pay to get scrapped in UK, owners here still looking for £3-4k sterling. E.g. Volvo 850 late 90's with 190k miles u for $5,000.
Anything over 8 years old is considered old but purely down to they don't really give a s
t about their cars and are pretty battered after 5 years from new.YOU HAVE TO PAY CURRENT BOOK VALUE TAX EVERY YEAR. Where I am tax is 6% so that's 6% of what you initially paid then 6% of book value every year after that until you no longer own it.
Generally private sellers and dealers have no clue on cars. I saw an advert by a dealer for a car where in the description it read "speedometer goes up to 150mph".
To finish on a good note.... petrol is cheap, in Connecticut its exactly half what I paid in London. Standard pump fuel can be between 89 - 93 Ron. Shell optimax stuff is 95
Oh and something very strange is most engine sizes start at 2.5 litres but shocking low on power, generally average 2.5 litres have between 110 -140 bhp. My car experience may not be as extensive as others but that to me is weired as normally that sort of power you get from 1.somethings so why such big engines?
Cars are more like property here, it's expensive to get on the ladder if you're a cash buyer, but once you've spent your money you don't get burned nearly as hard when you come to get it back. Personally I like it, as you're not eating a big depreciation bill purely because everyone else is so bent on keeping up with jones' like the UK. its annoying when you just want a bit of bangernomics though. Plenty of fun for well under 10k to be had, just got to know what you're looking for.
Stu R said:
Great choice, impressive first car indeed.
I've warmed to these a lot since trying a GSR earlier in the year - shame they didn't stick a 6 speed manual in but they're great in manual form. The MR I found really quite disappointing a few years back, but I find myself torn between an STI and Evo X GSR for some winter shenanigans now.
Enjoy lime rock, it's one of my favorites and great for Evos. As for the 32 GTR, prepare for lots of money on tuning if you hope to capture a fraction of the excitement an Evo can deliver at speeds you won't get jailed for. They're great but very different.
Thanks. And you know my choice lol. The way I always a break it down for people is this. I am from NY but I go to university in Pennsylvania which is a good 300 miles away. So if you are someone who does a good amount of miles then the Subie is probably your best bet. But if its a weekend car or something to just blast around town then Evo all the way. Subie for the drive and Evo for when you get there. Good luck with the decisionI've warmed to these a lot since trying a GSR earlier in the year - shame they didn't stick a 6 speed manual in but they're great in manual form. The MR I found really quite disappointing a few years back, but I find myself torn between an STI and Evo X GSR for some winter shenanigans now.
Enjoy lime rock, it's one of my favorites and great for Evos. As for the 32 GTR, prepare for lots of money on tuning if you hope to capture a fraction of the excitement an Evo can deliver at speeds you won't get jailed for. They're great but very different.
Stu R said:
dc2rr07 said:
dench said:
Being a British expat now in USA let me put across the differences in the car world.
YOU HAVE TO PAY CURRENT BOOK VALUE TAX EVERY YEAR. Where I am tax is 6% so that's 6% of what you initially paid then 6% of book value every year after that until you no longer own it.
That's a bit rich having to pay that each year, is that for every state !YOU HAVE TO PAY CURRENT BOOK VALUE TAX EVERY YEAR. Where I am tax is 6% so that's 6% of what you initially paid then 6% of book value every year after that until you no longer own it.
Edited by dench on Tuesday 2nd December 05:45
Great first car though, black wheels certainly look better on it.
MC Bodge said:
How can insurance premiums vary so
Much between countries?
NZ, Aus, UK, US, Ireland etc?
Because in the UK its all about statistics - the percentage of a 17 year old male crashing a 1.2 Corsa = high premium. Much between countries?
NZ, Aus, UK, US, Ireland etc?
As a 22 year old, I can insure both my RX-7 and RX-8 for a combined £1,400 whereas if I just insured a Clio 182 on its own it'd cost me £1,200 - because there are more 22 year olds crashing 182's than RX-7's/RX-8's. (In fact, the 3.2 Litre Boxster S that I'm looking at is just £750 to insure - as there are clearly not many 22 year olds writing off Porsches!)
I think that in America you're just insuring a driver on a vehicle as individuals as opposed to generalising them.
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