RE: Maserati Alfieri latest

RE: Maserati Alfieri latest

Tuesday 2nd December 2014

Maserati Alfieri latest

Latest being that we'll have to wait for a crossover first - bah!



Exactly 100 years ago, er, yesterday Maserati was founded. So earlier this year, to celebrate its centenary Maser did what all good Italian sports car manufacturers do to commemorate a landmark birthday - it built a drool-inducingly good-looking concept car called the Alfieri.

Underpinnings have changed, looks won't
Underpinnings have changed, looks won't
They should have handed out bibs on the Geneva show stand it was that attractive; it caused Porsche and Jaguar to raise an eyebrow and clasp respective 911 and F-Type models even tighter into their protective bosom.

Now confirmed for production in 2016 and - importantly - confirmed to keep those looks and that Alfieri name after "the most prominent of the Maserati brothers", we can wheel the GranTurismo off into retirement safe in the knowledge that there'll be a new swinging V6 turbo appendage coming out of Modena. This will be the Maserati sports car until the GT's replacement arrives in 2018.

A turbocharged 3.0-litre V6 will power the Alfieri range, producing 410hp in rear-wheel drive Carrera S bothering guise and all four wheels in the 450hp and 520hp variants that'll give the Merc-AMG GT and F-Type something to ponder.

We can already hear the engineering departments assembling in Affalterbach and Coventry.

It's not all good news for the purists
It's not all good news for the purists
The Alfieri will be, in the immortal words of Ronnie Coleman, lightweight baby. That's because Maserati has just signed a tech share deal with Airbus. Unlike the concept, the Alfieri will be based on an adapted version of the more modern Ghibli/Quattroporte platform, not a shortened GranTurismo chassis. With the Airbus tie-up expect to see extensive use of composites and lightweight metals - we're hoping for some lovely extruded aluminium detailing to make it in the cabin. Should help keep the weight of the eventual cabriolet down (due in 2017), anyway.

Despite aerospace grade materials, it seems price won't be proportional to the use of unobtanium. Rumours have it that the Alfieri will start at £60,000.

Before we get to see the Alfieri's shapely silhouette in production form, however, we'll have to watch one of the last bastions of individuality against the on-road off-roader trend capitulate and jump on the SUV bandwagon.

Maserati chases volume; had to happen
Maserati chases volume; had to happen
Next year we will see a diesel 4x4 Maserati.

We've witnessed the spy shots of the Levante (nee Kubang - thank god it isn't called the latter) already. It looks, well, like an SUV but it'll be instrumental in attempting to hit the brand's ambitious sales targets of 75,000 units per year by 2018. You can see why Maserati has done it, wanting to join in the profit grabbing in China, the US and the Middle East and no doubt wanting a slice of the crossover pie. But is a diesel SUV wearing a Trident on its grille a good thing?

Does the world really need a Maserati 4x4? Does it want one is another question? That's for the market to decide, so guess how that'll turn out? Could be worse though, it could look like a Bentley...

 

[Sources: Autocar]

 

 

 

 

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myhandle

Original Poster:

1,195 posts

175 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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A different approach to the various brands Fiat have control over could have worked like this:

Position Maserati above Ferrari as a Bugatti rival. Ultra exclusive. Given the brand awareness in the markets with the biggest potential for growth was almost zero, Fiat could have taken the Maserati brand anywhere. The fairly recent and very expensive MC12 could have set the precedent for the repositioning.

Ferrari, as is.

Alfa Romeo brought to the level of Maserati at the moment, producing near-supercar performance coupes and high performance SUVs and sports saloons.

Lancia making hot hatches and small and medium sized saloons (occupying Alfa Romeo's present space).

Fiat, as is.

This might have resulted in less confusion between the brands, and saved Lancia as well.

V41LEY

2,895 posts

239 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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£60k - I'll just borrow the money feck it !! Awesome

kambites

67,593 posts

222 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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If they can get it through type approval looking like that and sell it for £60k it'll do well irrespective of whether it turns out to be any good.

Al U

2,313 posts

132 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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Am I the only one that thinks it doesn't really look that good? boxedin

8bit

4,868 posts

156 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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myhandle said:
A different approach to the various brands Fiat have control over could have worked like this:

Position Maserati above Ferrari as a Bugatti rival. Ultra exclusive. Given the brand awareness in the markets with the biggest potential for growth was almost zero, Fiat could have taken the Maserati brand anywhere. The fairly recent and very expensive MC12 could have set the precedent for the repositioning.

Ferrari, as is.

Alfa Romeo brought to the level of Maserati at the moment, producing near-supercar performance coupes and high performance SUVs and sports saloons.

Lancia making hot hatches and small and medium sized saloons (occupying Alfa Romeo's present space).

Fiat, as is.

This might have resulted in less confusion between the brands, and saved Lancia as well.
Would upset a lot of Ferrari customers. Also they'd have to go a long way to convince the world that Maserati were now superior to Ferrari.

Much better idea to push Ferrari a little more towards the higher end market and sell the entry-level Ferrari models with Maserati badges on them.

oldtimer2

728 posts

134 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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Sounds like a good strategy to me and in the right sequence. The Maserati strategy seems to be working already in the USA - Maserati has already outsold Jaguar at retail in each of the past three months. Jeep technology is available to underpin the SUV, should Marchionne wish to go that far with the specs. I expect he will give JLR a very hard run for the money in the premium segment.

mrclav

1,300 posts

224 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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unpc

2,837 posts

214 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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kambites said:
If they can get it through type approval looking like that and sell it for £60k it'll do well irrespective of whether it turns out to be any good.
My guess is no to either. I doubt that front end is pedestrian friendly enough for our EU overlords and it'll look terrible with a number plate. If it's £60k I'll eat my hat!

Still there's a some great competition in this sector now with the F-Type, 911, and Merc GT and V8V.

DonkeyApple

55,419 posts

170 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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That's a very elegant looking car.

Strawman

6,463 posts

208 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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Looks a bit like an r8 to me


sealtt

3,091 posts

159 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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Looks incredibly good, I love it.

MDMetal

2,776 posts

149 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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Gorgeous, can only hope it brings down the price of GT's into my grubby realm...

Contigo

3,113 posts

210 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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Will be ordering one if 60k that's for sure....

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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My new favourite car! Even that SUV looks ok, much better than the cars its up against

kambites

67,593 posts

222 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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unpc said:
kambites said:
If they can get it through type approval looking like that and sell it for £60k it'll do well irrespective of whether it turns out to be any good.
My guess is no to either. I doubt that front end is pedestrian friendly enough for our EU overlords and it'll look terrible with a number plate. If it's £60k I'll eat my hat!
I think headlight height is likely to be a problem, too.

smilo996

2,798 posts

171 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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How refreshing to find a company not bowing to the march of German auto companies and their suppliers.

What a great tie up with Airbus. Though hopefully no A380 styling.

It really is a beautiful looking car. Great to see the Italians still doing what they do best and styling some amazing looking cars.

Ian_UK1

1,514 posts

195 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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V41LEY said:
£60k - I'll just borrow the money feck it !! Awesome
Couldn't agree more - best looking car for years.

It may even be in with a shout as the best looking production car ever - if it translates into production as it looks now. (As others have already said, this is unlikely though frown).

Tuvra

7,921 posts

226 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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That would look awesome all black and de-chromed smile

firebird350

323 posts

181 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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No, I don't hanker (even remotely) after a Maserati SUV.

Then again, if you park up anywhere such as Chelsea, Henley, Ascot etc and take a gander at all the WAGs and other 'upwardly mobiles' in their Cayennes, BMW X5's, Audi Whatevers and, yes, their Posh Spice Evoques, you'll soon see how, if the Maserati name has the kudos (which it does at the moment), such people will possibly buy a Maserati SUV just to be different (or more likely, to go 'one up' on their "F*ck You" merry-go-round!)

Back to that gorgeous coupe though and I can't believe in the £60K price tag. By the time it gets into production (if it does) I'd wager it will be sporting an £80K tag hanging from its rear view mirror...

unpc

2,837 posts

214 months

Tuesday 2nd December 2014
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We always get this crap with concept cars. They tease us with drop dead gorgeous shape that has no bearing on production reality and by the time they make it meet the regs with EU truck sized mirrors, it will look gopping. Then they bang on about it weighing less than a bag of crisps, before it gets loaded up with mandatory safety stuff and pointless gadgets and before you know it, weighs the same as small moon. Then the price...

Thankfully some car companies have learned not to tease us then disappoint us (think CX-16 to F-Type Coupe, rear hatch aside) but clearly Maserati isn't one of them.

Concept is ace, the reality, a long way short. Hopefully I will be proved wrong.