996 GT3 (mk2) or TVR Sagaris

[Lotus E300S]

Harris_I said:

Sorry, I can't comment on the Sagaris having never driven one, but I was intrigued by these two comments.

I've owned my 996 GT3 for over 10 years now, for several of which it was campaigned in sprint and wheel to wheel racing with Cup mods. Nothing else I've driven gets close to combining an authentic GT experience (as in the motorsport definition) and a road car. I've also raced a 996 Cup and the difference was marginal. The icing on the cake was race-proven reliability. The engine has only now been fully rebuilt.

You can get a more immediately visceral thrill from other cars but the downside is useability: my Caterham hardly ever ventures out onto the road. That's not to say the GT3 is not thrilling: it comes down to set up and the extent to which you wish to consider Cup or RS components.

It also requires a very particular driving technique to get the most out of it. I find most modern supercars too accessible and that kind of bores me. The GT3 took me years to work out and I'm still learning.

For me the GT3 is a head and heart decision. I could never sell mine.

Both great cars that put a smile on your face when driving it's just for me the Sagaris is just that bit more special probably because of its looks and uniqueness.

[F1GTRUeno]

Lotus E300S said:

Both great cars that put a smile on your face when driving it's just for me the Sagaris is just that bit more special probably because of its looks and uniqueness.

In which case, buy the Sagaris.

[Lotus E300S]

F1GTRUeno said:

In which case, buy the Sagaris.

Taking price into consideration the Sags are around 10 grand more which makes the decision a bit more interesting though still pulling towards the Sagaris option.

[bungle]

If I had £50k to spare, then it would have to be the Sag for me, just for the sense of occasion every single time you go out in it.

Just look at it...

[dvs_dave]

There will always be a GT3 variant of the 911 available. There will never be another car like the Sagaris available.

Surely makes the descision a no brainier?

[slipstream 1985]

Finally a newbie on h asking an actual proper petrol head question.

Tough one imo.

Go with the sag imo.

[TheJimi]

Sagaris, I think.

No, GT3.

Actually, Saga....oh ffs

[Lotus E300S]

dvs_dave said:

There will always be a GT3 variant of the 911 available. There will never be another car like the Sagaris available.

Surely makes the descision a no brainier?

Nail firmly hit and for the looks, uniqueness and that great speed six engine I think it has to be the Sagaris.

[57Ford]

Sadly I'd have to sell the wife, not just divorce her to have the decision to make but FWIW, unless it's a daily driver, I think I'd be on the TVR.
Edited for removal of obviously drunken humour

Edited by 57Ford on Sunday 7th December 22:38

[TheJimi]

Eh?

[Darkslider]

If I was spending that much money on a car, I would want it to make me stand there looking at it for five minutes after opening the garage door before even getting in it. And when I got to my destination and parked up, I want a car that I can't walk away from in the car park without turning around to look at it.

As good as they are, a 911 is never going to do that to anyone. I see too many of them (in various guises) on a day to day basis, while a very good car they lose that special something a rarer car has.

So for me it'd be the Sag, no question.

[TA14]

Darkslider said:

So for me it'd be the Sag, no question.

For me it would also be the Sagaris, no question. The TVR is a very special hand built car and for me all of these 'TVR or the other car' threads are the same: if it isn't the TVR without question then buy the other car and leave the TVR for those who will love them

[Lotus E300S]

Darkslider said:

If I was spending that much money on a car, I would want it to make me stand there looking at it for five minutes after opening the garage door before even getting in it. And when I got to my destination and parked up, I want a car that I can't walk away from in the car park without turning around to look at it.

As good as they are, a 911 is never going to do that to anyone. I see too many of them (in various guises) on a day to day basis, while a very good car they lose that special something a rarer car has.

So for me it'd be the Sag, no question.

Nice colour, do you know what that specific colour is called?

[jamieduff1981]

Lotus E300S said:

Darkslider said:

If I was spending that much money on a car, I would want it to make me stand there looking at it for five minutes after opening the garage door before even getting in it. And when I got to my destination and parked up, I want a car that I can't walk away from in the car park without turning around to look at it.

As good as they are, a 911 is never going to do that to anyone. I see too many of them (in various guises) on a day to day basis, while a very good car they lose that special something a rarer car has.

So for me it'd be the Sag, no question.

Nice colour, do you know what that specific colour is called?

Looks like Rolex Blue to me. It can be hard to tell from photos sometimes as it has a different look in every light.

Edited by jamieduff1981 on Monday 8th December 07:51

[Lotus E300S]

Thanks and lovely colour and I would have said it was more of a purple colour, must be my eyes.

[jamieduff1981]

I think any person who didn't have sexual insecurities would admit it was purple too

[Calza]

Your heart is clearly after the Sagaris, and your brain can get behind that decision too.

What a fantastic choice to have to make

[jgtv]

The Sagaris, the GT3 while a nice car isnt in the same league of attention grabbing sports cars like the TVR, the GT3 is almost certainly a much better car when your really giving it some on track but I would pick the TVR every time when you want an event.

[braddo]

Darkslider said:

If I was spending that much money on a car, I would want it to make me stand there looking at it for five minutes after opening the garage door before even getting in it. And when I got to my destination and parked up, I want a car that I can't walk away from in the car park without turning around to look at it.

As good as they are, a 911 is never going to do that to anyone. I see too many of them (in various guises) on a day to day basis, while a very good car they lose that special something a rarer car has.

So for me it'd be the Sag, no question.

I find the Sagaris an absolute eyesore. Which is a great shame to me, since they're supposed to be by far the best resolved TVR to drive. I simply couldn't own something that ugly and over-styled, so for me the ultimate 2000s TVR would be a Tuscan with upgraded suspension/geometry. I would find it hard to pick between a Griffith, Cerbera and Tuscan.

ETA - sorry, this is of no help whatsoever to the OP.

[Speedracer329]

If I were fortunate enough to be in your position it would be the Sagaris every time. The GT3 is a great car for sure but it is relatively common & doesn't look much different to any 911. The Sagaris is much rarer & would have a greater sense of occasion every time you picked up the keys.