996 GT3 (mk2) or TVR Sagaris
Discussion
Hi all,
New to pistonheads and was told about this site by a Tvr owning friend who is a member here and says it's a good site for Tvr info,
Was looking at getting a mk2 996 Gt3 but have recently driven a Sagaris and was blown away by how good it was and how much better it is than the Cerbera and Tuscan I tested, it really does put a massive smile on your face when you drive it and gives a real sense of occasion that is missing when you drive the Gt3,
Still my head says Gt3 but heart says Sagaris so has anybody owned both who can give me some long term ownership experience please,
Thanks
New to pistonheads and was told about this site by a Tvr owning friend who is a member here and says it's a good site for Tvr info,
Was looking at getting a mk2 996 Gt3 but have recently driven a Sagaris and was blown away by how good it was and how much better it is than the Cerbera and Tuscan I tested, it really does put a massive smile on your face when you drive it and gives a real sense of occasion that is missing when you drive the Gt3,
Still my head says Gt3 but heart says Sagaris so has anybody owned both who can give me some long term ownership experience please,
Thanks
V8RX7 said:
Since when did buying a toy have anything to with a sensible decision ?
You buy the one you WANT - the more you cannot justify it, the better the toy.
Maybe I'm getting old, though I felt 21 again driving the Sagaris.You buy the one you WANT - the more you cannot justify it, the better the toy.
Both great cars it's a difficult one, been reading posts on pistonheads trying to get an unbiased view on both cars.
Don't own a Sagaris but own a 996.2 GT3 Club Sport - I bloody love it and it feels like an event every time I take it out - that's maybe partly down to the bucket seats/harness,fire extinguisher and roll cage which obviously you don't get in the comfort spec. Never once have I felt like it needs more power and the feedback you get through the wheel is like nothing else I've driven.
Not that it should matter really but both cars are slightly appreciating and it may be a case of being quite difficult to find a really good one.
Not that it should matter really but both cars are slightly appreciating and it may be a case of being quite difficult to find a really good one.
Lotus E300S said:
Maybe I'm getting old, though I felt 21 again driving the Sagaris.
Both great cars it's a difficult one, been reading posts on pistonheads trying to get an unbiased view on both cars.
You've answered your own question.Both great cars it's a difficult one, been reading posts on pistonheads trying to get an unbiased view on both cars.
Who cares what others think
(Unless you haven't driven the GT3)
ClarkPB said:
Don't own a Sagaris but own a 996.2 GT3 Club Sport - I bloody love it and it feels like an event every time I take it out - that's maybe partly down to the bucket seats/harness,fire extinguisher and roll cage which obviously you don't get in the comfort spec. Never once have I felt like it needs more power and the feedback you get through the wheel is like nothing else I've driven.
Not that it should matter really but both cars are slightly appreciating and it may be a case of being quite difficult to find a really good one.
You're right finding a really good one is difficult and owners of good ones aren't selling and also agree that the 996.2 Gt3 is a great drive but then so is the Sagaris.Not that it should matter really but both cars are slightly appreciating and it may be a case of being quite difficult to find a really good one.
How long have you owned yours and have you had any issues?
Lotus E300S said:
You're right finding a really good one is difficult and owners of good ones aren't selling and also agree that the 996.2 Gt3 is a great drive but then so is the Sagaris.
How long have you owned yours and have you had any issues?
Had it almost exactly 2 years now and the only problem I have is that I don't get to drive it enough! How long have you owned yours and have you had any issues?
It's only done 14k miles and is mint underneath so I wouldn't expect any problems,it's been over serviced if anything.
ClarkPB said:
Lotus E300S said:
You're right finding a really good one is difficult and owners of good ones aren't selling and also agree that the 996.2 Gt3 is a great drive but then so is the Sagaris.
How long have you owned yours and have you had any issues?
Had it almost exactly 2 years now and the only problem I have is that I don't get to drive it enough! How long have you owned yours and have you had any issues?
It's only done 14k miles and is mint underneath so I wouldn't expect any problems,it's been over serviced if anything.
Lotus E300S said:
and gives a real sense of occasion that is missing when you drive the Gt3,
Still my head says Gt3 but heart says Sagaris
Sorry, I can't comment on the Sagaris having never driven one, but I was intrigued by these two comments.Still my head says Gt3 but heart says Sagaris
I've owned my 996 GT3 for over 10 years now, for several of which it was campaigned in sprint and wheel to wheel racing with Cup mods. Nothing else I've driven gets close to combining an authentic GT experience (as in the motorsport definition) and a road car. I've also raced a 996 Cup and the difference was marginal. The icing on the cake was race-proven reliability. The engine has only now been fully rebuilt.
You can get a more immediately visceral thrill from other cars but the downside is useability: my Caterham hardly ever ventures out onto the road. That's not to say the GT3 is not thrilling: it comes down to set up and the extent to which you wish to consider Cup or RS components.
It also requires a very particular driving technique to get the most out of it. I find most modern supercars too accessible and that kind of bores me. The GT3 took me years to work out and I'm still learning.
For me the GT3 is a head and heart decision. I could never sell mine.
I would be very happy to own either, but am content with my Cerb for now, if I had the decision to make it would really depend what I wanted from the car.
I would expect the Porsche to give less problems and be more user friendly, possible downside is that from a distance and to the general public it is pretty much like any 911.
The Sagaris may give a few reliability problems and may be more challenging to live with, but it looks like nothing else, sounds incredible and would probably be my choice.
I would expect the Porsche to give less problems and be more user friendly, possible downside is that from a distance and to the general public it is pretty much like any 911.
The Sagaris may give a few reliability problems and may be more challenging to live with, but it looks like nothing else, sounds incredible and would probably be my choice.
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