Dealers only make a little on car sales, I'm not having it!

Dealers only make a little on car sales, I'm not having it!

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Thankyou4calling

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10,602 posts

173 months

Saturday 6th December 2014
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I went into Mercedes Northampton yesterday.

A really impressive building, clean as a hospital and fitted out like a four star hotel. All new stock in the showroom, about 20 cars, were the same snow white colour wrapped in a Christmas bow.

A sales meeting had finished and at least 10 people in suits came down the stainless steel and glass stairs.

There were three on reception, a guy from service helped me, I had a hot chocolate served by someone and tucked in to a pastry.

Many claim main dealers make only a couple of hundred from a new car sale and servicing is only around £250 a year. If anything goes wrong the warranty covers it and there was no oil in sight.

How can they afford to run an operation like this whilst those who work there claim margins are so low?

Terminator X

15,061 posts

204 months

Saturday 6th December 2014
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coffee

TX.

Monkeylegend

26,377 posts

231 months

Saturday 6th December 2014
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Not this st again.

dibblecorse

6,875 posts

192 months

Saturday 6th December 2014
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They make hundreds, no thousands on your part ex, they make a mint from finance, they get huge dealer bonuses for volume, the margin on the car is irrelevant as its just a product to wrap other revenue generating products around.

I think many offer a great service and hope this doesn't turn into another dealer bashing thread.

Tannedbaldhead

2,952 posts

132 months

Saturday 6th December 2014
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Thankyou4calling said:
How can they afford to run an operation like this whilst those who work there claim margins are so low?
Supagard

Jimmy No Hands

5,011 posts

156 months

Saturday 6th December 2014
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Lifeshine sales.



wink

northwest monkey

6,370 posts

189 months

Saturday 6th December 2014
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They are all a front for the Mafia.

RobinBanks

17,540 posts

179 months

Saturday 6th December 2014
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northwest monkey said:
They are all a front for the Mafia.



av185

18,511 posts

127 months

Saturday 6th December 2014
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RobinBanks said:


Ken Livingstone looks well off retirement.........

Osinjak

5,453 posts

121 months

Saturday 6th December 2014
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TrueCoat.

daemon

35,814 posts

197 months

Saturday 6th December 2014
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Thankyou4calling said:
I went into Mercedes Northampton yesterday.

A really impressive building, clean as a hospital and fitted out like a four star hotel. All new stock in the showroom, about 20 cars, were the same snow white colour wrapped in a Christmas bow.

A sales meeting had finished and at least 10 people in suits came down the stainless steel and glass stairs.

There were three on reception, a guy from service helped me, I had a hot chocolate served by someone and tucked in to a pastry.

Many claim main dealers make only a couple of hundred from a new car sale and servicing is only around £250 a year. If anything goes wrong the warranty covers it and there was no oil in sight.

How can they afford to run an operation like this whilst those who work there claim margins are so low?
The glam and glitz is forced upon them by the manufacturer to maintain the manufacturers "image".

As has been said, new car sales is basically to support the areas where they do make money - servicing, parts, finance, extra warranties, supaguard, RTI insurance, tyre insurance, warranty work, repairs, bodywork, etc, etc.

Even then, they're not making a fortune overall.

Sytner Group - £3 billion turnover, £66 million pre tax profit (cant even think to work that out as a percentage)

http://www.am-online.com/news/2013/2/18/record-sal...

Lookers Group - £2.464 billion turner, £43.90 million pre tax profit.

http://investors.lookersplc.com/financial-summary




daemon

35,814 posts

197 months

Saturday 6th December 2014
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dibblecorse said:
They make hundreds, no thousands on your part ex, they make a mint from finance, they get huge dealer bonuses for volume, the margin on the car is irrelevant as its just a product to wrap other revenue generating products around.

I think many offer a great service and hope this doesn't turn into another dealer bashing thread.
Even on those margins their overheads are huge.

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

246 months

Saturday 6th December 2014
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Thankyou4calling said:
How can they afford to run an operation like this whilst those who work there claim margins are so low?
Not at all unusual to find a dealership making only 1% on sales at the end of the year, and all of that coming in the form of bonuses for one thing or another. For instance,
  • Vehicle sales total
  • Parts sales total
  • Holding the full stock of parts
  • Holding an appropriate fleet of demonstrators
  • Customer satisfaction
If you think it looks like easy money you could always have a go at it yourself.

Matt UK

17,696 posts

200 months

Saturday 6th December 2014
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daemon said:
Sytner Group - £3 billion turnover, £66 million pre tax profit (cant even think to work that out as a percentage)
It's 2.2%. Pretty lousy.

Dave^

7,360 posts

253 months

Saturday 6th December 2014
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Thankyou4calling said:
How can they afford to run an operation like this whilst those who work there claim margins are so low?
The great screenwash scandal...

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=28&...

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Superhoop

4,677 posts

193 months

Saturday 6th December 2014
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Matt UK said:
It's 2.2%. Pretty lousy.
Which is pretty much the norm for the industry

Monkeylegend

26,377 posts

231 months

Saturday 6th December 2014
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Superhoop said:
Matt UK said:
It's 2.2%. Pretty lousy.
Which is pretty much the norm for the industry
How dare they make that much pre-tax profit furious

Yamahadivvyrider

450 posts

118 months

Saturday 6th December 2014
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According to my mates who works in car sales profit is not good on new cars.all the money's in 2nd hand and finance...

Yamahadivvyrider

450 posts

118 months

Saturday 6th December 2014
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According to my mates who works in car sales profit is not good on new cars.all the money's in 2nd hand and finance...

markcoznottz

7,155 posts

224 months

Saturday 6th December 2014
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Yamahadivvyrider said:
According to my mates who works in car sales profit is not good on new cars.all the money's in 2nd hand and finance...
Motabilities the thing to be in, but noone wants the gig because of the, ahem, clientele. New tends to be less dreamers apparantly, but a bit 'soulless' . Bloody stupefyingly boring job if you ask me, but each to thier own.