Classic (old, retro) cars for sale £0-5k

Classic (old, retro) cars for sale £0-5k

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Devil2575

13,400 posts

188 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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Lowtimer said:
Devil2575 said:
I'm not talking about light bulbs, I'm talking about reliability.

In my experience cars just don't break down as much as they used too, they don't require half as much servicing and maintenance as they used too and they last much longer.
When I had a failed LED panel on my modern BMW it definitely counted as a reliability issue: instead of fixing it myself in three minutes it means I had to take the car into a main dealer and be without it for two days.

Same when the head gasket went: that was under warranty too. It's never happened to me on a 1990s BMW.

But if that's your experience fair enough. My experience is the exact opposite, at least for decent quality German makes from the late 1980s to late 1990s. The modern stuff is really shoddy by comparison.

Edited by Lowtimer on Sunday 1st May 19:07


Edited by Lowtimer on Sunday 1st May 19:08
Ok, but you are talking about german cars.

I think it is true to say that german brands have reduced the ammount of over engineering in their cars, the fact that in real terms Mercs and BMWs are now quite a bit cheaper than they used to be goes hand in had with this.

However when you look at brands like Ford I'd say the opposite has occured. 40 years back 100k was pretty good going for a Ford gear box, these days you would expect one to do at least twice that. 40 years ago a 10 year old ford would stand a good chance of being quite rusty, these days the tin worm may be starting to make an appearance but it's almost always just surface rust and purely cosmetic.

I'm also not convinced about the legendary reliability of 80s and 90s german cars. I've owned an E36 and it was far from a paragon of reliability, just mention vanos and nikasil which gave plenty of owners a headache. Was the 80s BMW stuff that much better? Porous cyclinder heads on the 6 cylinder engines and they rusted just like everything else of that era. In fact I remember being warned in the 90s not to buy a BMW on the basis that as it was well built it would be more reliable. This was from an e28 owner.

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/under-the-hood/diagn...

golfer19

1,565 posts

133 months

Iva Barchetta

44,044 posts

163 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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Fast Bug said:
Iva Barchetta said:
came with the tyres it left the

W reg,from first year of MK3 production,also no rear wiper.

also comes with 35 year old tyres...nice.
My 924 came with the tyres it left the factory wearing. First thing I did was to buy another set of wheels and put new tyres on. Some collector may want them, but I didn't fancy driving with them on eek
The concours boys love those but generally want brand new tyres complete with the labels on.....nerd

Hugo a Gogo

23,378 posts

233 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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mx5ian said:
needs a rocket launcher

Hugh Jarse

3,503 posts

205 months

Wednesday 4th May 2016
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Big Rod

6,199 posts

216 months

Wednesday 4th May 2016
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wildcat45 said:
pingu393 said:
Holy st!! It's like Mario the Plumber's wet dream under the bonnet...

Reminds me of a Windows screensaver from 1998
Thick end of 8 hours to change the plugs.

Sticks.

8,749 posts

251 months

Wednesday 4th May 2016
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golfer19 said:
Iirc the top left guage is oil pressure. Isn't it a bit low considering it's not fully warmed up? Long time since I had one and I can't remember what's 'normal'.



SimonTheSailor

12,590 posts

228 months

Wednesday 4th May 2016
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golfer19 said:
Thats pretty good money isn't it ?

Sticks.

8,749 posts

251 months

Wednesday 4th May 2016
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I know nothing about these. But it's different, and looks good from the pictures, at least.




Pothole

34,367 posts

282 months

Wednesday 4th May 2016
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Sticks. said:
golfer19 said:
Iirc the top left guage is oil pressure. Isn't it a bit low considering it's not fully warmed up? Long time since I had one and I can't remember what's 'normal'.


Meh. French electrics are never to be trusted

V8RX7

26,859 posts

263 months

Wednesday 4th May 2016
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Sticks. said:
I know nothing about these. But it's different, and looks good from the pictures, at least.



I think it looks ugly in the pictures but in the flesh...




they are far worse.


EnglishTony

2,552 posts

99 months

Wednesday 4th May 2016
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V8RX7 said:
Sticks. said:
I know nothing about these. But it's different, and looks good from the pictures, at least.



I think it looks ugly in the pictures but in the flesh...




they are far worse.
I can't forgive the way front of these have always reminded me of an Austin Morris 1100.

Sorry Gilbern enthusiasts.

Hugh Jarse

3,503 posts

205 months

Thursday 5th May 2016
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EnglishTony said:
V8RX7 said:
Sticks. said:
I know nothing about these. But it's different, and looks good from the pictures, at least.

I think it looks ugly in the pictures but in the flesh...
they are far worse.
I can't forgive the way front of these have always reminded me of an Austin Morris 1100.
Sorry Gilbern enthusiasts.
Apparently minging 60's Ferrari & Lancia.


V8RX7

26,859 posts

263 months

Thursday 5th May 2016
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Hugh Jarse said:
Apparently minging 60's Ferrari & Lancia.

The Lancia is pretty...

pretty ugly.

The Ferrari is far better but hardly their greatest design.

However you either haven't seen a Gilburn or are blind because if you post up the it's other angles and compare it to the other two, you will see just how hideous it is.

Hugh Jarse

3,503 posts

205 months

Thursday 5th May 2016
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Ah well, different strokes etc smile

RobbieKB

7,715 posts

183 months

Thursday 5th May 2016
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Sticks. said:
I know nothing about these. But it's different, and looks good from the pictures, at least.



I really like it. boxedin

Martin350

3,775 posts

195 months

Thursday 5th May 2016
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I quite like it too.

And I do like the sound of an old Essex V6.

Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

179 months

Thursday 5th May 2016
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The Crack Fox said:
And me. It's like a poor (Welsh)mans Lotus Elan 130.
I always think they're like a budget Gordon Keeble

stephen300o

15,464 posts

228 months

Thursday 5th May 2016
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It has that Bristol hideousness.
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