Classic (old, retro) cars for sale £0-5k

[crofty1984]

snotrag said:

I like them, the later Excel is supposed to be a much better buy, some parts pinched off Toyota (gearbox, diff etc?) and a bit better finished - the most reliable Lotus? Used to a lot about below 5 grand, maybe less so nowadays.

W28 gearbox. Toyota Supra mk 2 was being developed at the same time. Mines slowly coming together.

[FredClogs]

Stickyfinger said:

and the New Mini is bigger than both

I'm looking out my window at work at a new mini (standard 2 door one) that's next to a mk4 golf, they're the same length and the mini is slightly wider. (to my eyes anyway)

[Roy Lime]

alpha channel said:

I don't know about the 850 era Volvo's, came across one earlier on in the year that still looked big even by modern standards (it still made me go Bugger me, that's big!). Sticking to that I parked up my Rover 200 Coupe (Tomcat) next to a current gen Micra when visiting my Mother and the damn thing dwarfed the Rover (shorter, though not by much, but the shear bulk of the thing in comparison...).

Here's a photo of my 850 taken earlier this year. I think that's a Punto parked in front. It does sometimes seem that the Volvo is dwarfed by modern cars but it remains an ideal size with a cavernous boot.

[carinaman]

Has the imported 850R got different headlamps and panels underneath?

The panels with the headlamp wipers seem larger vertically and then curve in to fit behind the grille panel of the bonnet. I've never noticed those panels looking so fat cheeked before.

[mx5ian]

carinaman said:

Has the imported 850R got different headlamps and panels underneath?

The panels with the headlamp wipers seem larger vertically and then curve in to fit behind the grille panel of the bonnet. I've never noticed those panels looking so fat cheeked before.

No I don't think so, if you look at it next to a standard 850 they look the same

[Rich1973]

We all derided the humongus yank tanks back in the 90's, and yet the cars we buy now are huge compared to that era. Comparing the 850 to a Punto being a case in point.

[carinaman]

mx5ian said:

No I don't think so, if you look at it next to a standard 850 they look the same.

Thanks. I've never noticed those panels curving inwards either side of the grille before, which is shocking considering the number of times I've looked at the CAR Magazine Giant Test of the Saffron coloured V70R AWD, A6 Avant C5 2.8 Quattro and the Merc. E320 estate.

I think the A6 Avant C5 is a great design. I don't care much for the A6 Avant C6. Like the 850/V70, the '90s dimensions of the A6 C5 is better suited to the roads I use.

Edited by carinaman on Thursday 22 December 22:41

[mx5ian]

carinaman said:

mx5ian said:

No I don't think so, if you look at it next to a standard 850 they look the same.

Thanks. I've never noticed those panels curving inwards either side of the grille before, which is shocking considering the number of times I've looked at the CAR Magazine Giant Test of the Saffron coloured V70R AWD, A6 Avant C5 2.8 Quattro and the Merc. E320 estate.

I think the A6 Avant C5 is a great design. I don't care much for the A6 Avant C6. Like the 850/V70, the '90s dimensions of the A6 C5 is better suited to the roads I use.

Edited by carinaman on Thursday 22 December 22:41

The V70 (model after the 850) didn't have any panels under the headlight's

[MissChief]

Rich1973 said:

We all derided the humongus yank tanks back in the 90's, and yet the cars we buy now are huge compared to that era. Comparing the 850 to a Punto being a case in point.

It's a conspiracy I tell you! As cars get gradually bigger in each generation they're planning on building a smaller car underneath it! Remember when the Polo was a small car? It got bigger and bigger and now they have the Up! That will get larger and they'll find something small to put in under that soon!

[cat220]

MissChief said:

Rich1973 said:

We all derided the humongus yank tanks back in the 90's, and yet the cars we buy now are huge compared to that era. Comparing the 850 to a Punto being a case in point.

It's a conspiracy I tell you! As cars get gradually bigger in each generation they're planning on building a smaller car underneath it! Remember when the Polo was a small car? It got bigger and bigger and now they have the Up! That will get larger and they'll find something small to put in under that soon!

Cars are getting bigger, however the interior space I find in many new cars I've been in doesn't seemed to have improved. A friends a3 saloon, the back seats feel very cramped another friends c class, sloping roof line again makes it feel cramped inside. Whereas my v70 (p1) has loads of room inside, the load space with the rear seats folded is huge.

[chasingracecars]

cat220 said:

Cars are getting bigger, however the interior space I find in many new cars I've been in doesn't seemed to have improved. A friends a3 saloon, the back seats feel very cramped another friends c class, sloping roof line again makes it feel cramped inside. Whereas my v70 (p1) has loads of room inside, the load space with the rear seats folded is huge.

Cars are probably getting bigger outside but not inside to improve crash structures and house airbags etc.

[EarlOfHazard]

MissChief said:

Rich1973 said:

We all derided the humongus yank tanks back in the 90's, and yet the cars we buy now are huge compared to that era. Comparing the 850 to a Punto being a case in point.

It's a conspiracy I tell you! As cars get gradually bigger in each generation they're planning on building a smaller car underneath it! Remember when the Polo was a small car? It got bigger and bigger and now they have the Up! That will get larger and they'll find something small to put in under that soon!

Yup, and there was the Lupo (before the Up).

[bucks]

EarlOfHazard said:

MissChief said:

Rich1973 said:

We all derided the humongus yank tanks back in the 90's, and yet the cars we buy now are huge compared to that era. Comparing the 850 to a Punto being a case in point.

It's a conspiracy I tell you! As cars get gradually bigger in each generation they're planning on building a smaller car underneath it! Remember when the Polo was a small car? It got bigger and bigger and now they have the Up! That will get larger and they'll find something small to put in under that soon!

Yup, and there was the Lupo (before the Up).

Don't forget the Fox, that was a stop gap of sorts between the Lupo and Up

[alpha channel]

It might've been a 900 series Volvo (in silver), I can remember though that it made the Alfa feel a bit on the dinky side. Mind you it was dark and it was that time of year when a car gets dirty five minutes after you've set off.

[Hugo a Gogo]

EarlOfHazard said:

MissChief said:

Rich1973 said:

We all derided the humongus yank tanks back in the 90's, and yet the cars we buy now are huge compared to that era. Comparing the 850 to a Punto being a case in point.

It's a conspiracy I tell you! As cars get gradually bigger in each generation they're planning on building a smaller car underneath it! Remember when the Polo was a small car? It got bigger and bigger and now they have the Up! That will get larger and they'll find something small to put in under that soon!

Yup, and there was the Lupo (before the Up).

Up seems small, but it's a good 100mm bigger in length/width/height on a Mk1 Polo

couple of hundred kilos heavier too

interestingly (or not) an Up has a longer wheelbase than a Ferrari Daytona

[V8RX7]

Hugo a Gogo said:

interestingly (or not) an VW Up has a longer wheelbase than a Ferrari Daytona

I've just googled as it didn't seem likely... but it is, by a whopping 7mm

[0a]

I have always rather liked these monacos. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/renault-5-monaco-1-7-gt-...

[anonymous-user]

I do like a R5, always fancied a Turbo or perhaps a bike engined one (or original 500).

We shall see, love this thread!

[carinaman]

mx5ian said:

The V70 (model after the 850) didn't have any panels under the headlight's

Well done. I think that CAR Magazine Giant test was a V70R which is why I didn't notice those panels.

[0a]

Agreed! Old French little cars from this period are great.

The white is a bit wedding, but look at the interior! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jaguar-XJ6-Series-3-/152...