Classic (old, retro) cars for sale £0-5k

Classic (old, retro) cars for sale £0-5k

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s m

23,242 posts

204 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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Kitchski said:
s m said:
Yes, the UK Rallye was nothing like the Continental spec 1.3 on, or even the XS. ( I didn't realise there was a German spec 1.9 205 Rallye as well ( 105bhp 1.9 ). OUr friend was duped slightly when he bought his one....we told him he should have got a GTi!
On a tangent, I remember my friend's B-reg 1.6 ( 105bhp ) 205 Gti being unreasonably fast compared to later 115bhp 1.6s and even 1.9s. We never did find out why - maybe it was just a very good/well run-in example
I knew about the 105bhp 1.9, as I thought, briefly, that I had the cylinder head from one of those on the BX GT I'm doing up for my Dad. There is a 115bhp version of the XU9 out there too, somewhere. Can't remember which market it was, but it was probably a low-comp version of the 120bhp version, designed for the markets where cats were compulsory even in the 1980's.

Sometimes you just get quick cars. I fitted a VTS engine into the wife's Saxo VTR, and for some reason it's kicking out about 130-132bhp. Goes like stink, yet is a standard engine. But then I get lots of Peugeots on the dyno which beat their book power figures, and it's usually the more basic smaller engined stuff.
Coincidentally Kitchski, there's an article about the proper 205 Rallye and AX Sport in Classic and Sportscar this month

They mention about the UK Rallye being iron blocked in a brief reference to it



Meant to say earlier as well, good article in Modern Classics on your 16valve BX thumbup

Kitchski

6,516 posts

232 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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s m said:
Coincidentally Kitchski, there's an article about the proper 205 Rallye and AX Sport in Classic and Sportscar this month

They mention about the UK Rallye being iron blocked in a brief reference to it



Meant to say earlier as well, good article in Modern Classics on your 16valve BX thumbup
Ooh, I need to buy that copy of C&SC! I think I just sold him some parts from my spare one.

Modern Classics? Not out til tomorrow I thought? eek

s m

23,242 posts

204 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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Kitchski said:
s m said:
Coincidentally Kitchski, there's an article about the proper 205 Rallye and AX Sport in Classic and Sportscar this month

They mention about the UK Rallye being iron blocked in a brief reference to it



Meant to say earlier as well, good article in Modern Classics on your 16valve BX thumbup
Ooh, I need to buy that copy of C&SC! I think I just sold him some parts from my spare one.

Modern Classics? Not out til tomorrow I thought? eek
To you maybe hehe

You get a little pic as well as your car.

60 cars is good going though! thumbup

Kitchski

6,516 posts

232 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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s m said:
Kitchski said:
s m said:
Coincidentally Kitchski, there's an article about the proper 205 Rallye and AX Sport in Classic and Sportscar this month

They mention about the UK Rallye being iron blocked in a brief reference to it



Meant to say earlier as well, good article in Modern Classics on your 16valve BX thumbup
Ooh, I need to buy that copy of C&SC! I think I just sold him some parts from my spare one.

Modern Classics? Not out til tomorrow I thought? eek
To you maybe hehe

You get a little pic as well as your car.

60 cars is good going though! thumbup
Yeah, they made me take that. Wasn't too chuffed to be honest, I hate having my picture taken laugh

60 cars - some would say good, others would not!

Going miles OT here I think though hehe

poing

8,743 posts

201 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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LookAtMyCat said:
poing said:
Some people consider the XS to be a better car than the GTi,.
People who have no absolutely no idea what they're talking about. 50bhp down on a 1.9 GTI, roughly the same weight, massively inferior suspension and handling. The carbs are fun i'll admit that. But for pure driving experience; not even close to a good GTI.
I see a few people have tried to help you already but if we have to explain how BHP is not related to the ability of a car then I'm sorry to say you will likely never understand the answer.

In a similar way I much preferred my base spec 1.6 MX5 to the 1.8 with LSD and sports suspension etc.

Stickyfinger

8,429 posts

106 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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poing said:
I see a few people have tried to help you already but if we have to explain how BHP is not related to the ability of a car then I'm sorry to say you will likely never understand the answer.
Can you do that for (most) Mustang and TVR owners please

V8RX7

26,901 posts

264 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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poing said:
I see a few people have tried to help you already but if we have to explain how BHP is not related to the ability of a car

In a similar way I much preferred my base spec 1.6 MX5 to the 1.8 with LSD and sports suspension etc.
To a point... but the 1.9 only had 130bhp anyway !

The 1.6 was slightly lighter, had a revvier engine with a shorter ratio diff so that's understandable

Fast Bug

11,714 posts

162 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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The 1.9 GTI is the better by far. The 1.6 is hindered by having awful wheels biggrin

deeen

6,081 posts

246 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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poing said:
I see a few people have tried to help you already but if we have to explain how BHP is not related to the ability of a car then I'm sorry to say you will likely never understand the answer.
...
Ability to do what?


poing

8,743 posts

201 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2017
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Lets not take the thread further off course please, start a new one if you are bothered. Back to the rubbish cool old cars please smile

golfer19

1,565 posts

134 months

0a

Original Poster:

23,901 posts

195 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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Golfer I was just about to post that, sparse details but cheap for a w123 if in good condition.

0a

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23,901 posts

195 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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This 190 has a really good ad, and looks like fair value: http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C786769


CharlesdeGaulle

26,302 posts

181 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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0a said:
This 190 has a really good ad, and looks like fair value: http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C786769

Nice colour too.

poing

8,743 posts

201 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
0a said:
This 190 has a really good ad, and looks like fair value: http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C786769

Nice colour too.
I had no idea these only had 4 gears, amazing how things have changed in a relatively short time. I'm ashamed to say I've even driven one and didn't notice paperbag

0a

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23,901 posts

195 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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poing said:
CharlesdeGaulle said:
0a said:
This 190 has a really good ad, and looks like fair value: http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C786769

Nice colour too.
I had no idea these only had 4 gears, amazing how things have changed in a relatively short time.
I have 12 gears...

...across my 3 cars!

Hugo a Gogo

23,378 posts

234 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
0a said:
This 190 has a really good ad, and looks like fair value: http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C786769

Nice colour too.
same as my old Merc, I could never decide whether it was green or blue

Fast Bug

11,714 posts

162 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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0a said:
poing said:
CharlesdeGaulle said:
0a said:
This 190 has a really good ad, and looks like fair value: http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C786769

Nice colour too.
I had no idea these only had 4 gears, amazing how things have changed in a relatively short time.
I have 12 gears...

...across my 3 cars!
9 in the new E Class, you really don't want or need any more

CharlesdeGaulle

26,302 posts

181 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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Hugo a Gogo said:
same as my old Merc, I could never decide whether it was green or blue
Bluey-green obvs.

Unless that dress-thing completely fked you over!

Hugo a Gogo

23,378 posts

234 months

Wednesday 4th January 2017
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the gold and white one?

anyway, MB called the colour Petrol Blue
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