Classic (old, retro) cars for sale £0-5k

Classic (old, retro) cars for sale £0-5k

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sim72

4,945 posts

135 months

Saturday 4th February 2017
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V8RX7 said:
Who cares ?

The vast majority of modified cars I've owned bear little relationship to the V5 description.

I tried to alter one once when I'd fitted a larger engine, I filled in the paperwork and it was returned requesting an engineers report etc

Needless to say I left it.
Which is fine as long as you're happy committing insurance fraud (not to mention not being covered if you have an accident - that could be very expensive if you hurt someone in a crash).

Alan L

4,318 posts

191 months

Saturday 4th February 2017
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V8RX7 said:
sim72 said:
Unfortunately....

Who cares ?

The vast majority of modified cars I've owned bear little relationship to the V5 description.

I tried to alter one once when I'd fitted a larger engine, I filled in the paperwork and it was returned requesting an engineers report etc

Needless to say I left it.
The engineers report is to make sure that the engine swap has been carried out safely and not by some idiot with an angle grinder and a cheap welder. If you don't bother and don't tell the dvla and have a serious crash you would be in big trouble. Chap at our work had a corsa 1.2 fitted with some high power red top 2.0 engine, never told the dvla. tt.

Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

180 months

Saturday 4th February 2017
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sim72 said:
Which is fine as long as you're happy committing insurance fraud (not to mention not being covered if you have an accident - that could be very expensive if you hurt someone in a crash).
It is possible to declare it to your insurance company without registering it with the DVLA

V8RX7

26,919 posts

264 months

Saturday 4th February 2017
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sim72 said:
V8RX7 said:
Who cares ?

The vast majority of modified cars I've owned bear little relationship to the V5 description.

I tried to alter one once when I'd fitted a larger engine, I filled in the paperwork and it was returned requesting an engineers report etc

Needless to say I left it.
Which is fine as long as you're happy committing insurance fraud (not to mention not being covered if you have an accident - that could be very expensive if you hurt someone in a crash).
Rubbish it doesn't matter one bit.

You declare it to your insurer, do you think the DVLA record your remap and aftermarket wheels too ?

V8RX7

26,919 posts

264 months

Saturday 4th February 2017
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Alan L said:
The engineers report is to make sure that the engine swap has been carried out safely and not by some idiot with an angle grinder and a cheap welder.

If you don't bother and don't tell the dvla and have a serious crash you would be in big trouble.

Chap at our work had a corsa 1.2 fitted with some high power red top 2.0 engine, never told the dvla. tt.
laughlaughlaugh No it isn't

No you're not

As you've got the first two wrong I'm unsure you're right with the third but driving a Corsa... there's a reasonable chance.

sim72

4,945 posts

135 months

Saturday 4th February 2017
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V8RX7 said:
Rubbish it doesn't matter one bit.

You declare it to your insurer, do you think the DVLA record your remap and aftermarket wheels too ?
Ah, I thought you were suggesting not declaring it. So it's just the increased VED it should be paying that's being avoided ...

V8RX7

26,919 posts

264 months

Saturday 4th February 2017
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sim72 said:
V8RX7 said:
Rubbish it doesn't matter one bit.

You declare it to your insurer, do you think the DVLA record your remap and aftermarket wheels too ?
Ah, I thought you were suggesting not declaring it. So it's just the increased VED it should be paying that's being avoided ...
As I said I tried to change one of mine - they made it awkward - I could understand jumping through hoops if I were claiming to have fitted a smaller engine for cheaper tax / insurance.

I used to deal in modified cars for 20 yrs - no one cares about this stuff.

sim72

4,945 posts

135 months

Saturday 4th February 2017
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V8RX7 said:
As I said I tried to change one of mine - they made it awkward - I could understand jumping through hoops if I were claiming to have fitted a smaller engine for cheaper tax / insurance.

I used to deal in modified cars for 20 yrs - no one cares about this stuff.
The real problem is that 90% of people who'd buy that Fiesta and cars like it wouldn't disclose it to their insurer either. Plus there's the provenance of the donor engine, especially with high performance stuff - there's a thread somewhere on here where someone bought a BMW with an M3 transplant and had the car confiscated because the engine turned out to be from a stolen car.

wibblebrain

656 posts

141 months

Saturday 4th February 2017
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Jimmy Recard said:
I do like them, I might have to stop being fussy looking for a manual and get a good auto
The auto was st: hold out for a manual. I used to have a 2.5CDX Manual as a company car and I really liked it. It was replaced with an auto for about 6 months: I suppose it was OK but not a patch on the manual.

If the MV6 on the classic car site was a manual I would have bought it without hesitation.

V8RX7

26,919 posts

264 months

Sunday 5th February 2017
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sim72 said:
The real problem is that 90% of people who'd buy that Fiesta and cars like it wouldn't disclose it to their insurer either.

Plus there's the provenance of the donor engine, especially with high performance stuff - there's a thread somewhere on here where someone bought a BMW with an M3 transplant and had the car confiscated because the engine turned out to be from a stolen car.
You are aware of the number of uninsured cars on the roads ?

As always you should check out these things carefully - you could of course buy an M3 that has had a stolen engine fitted or is a Ringer.

Every so often the Police, DVLA, DSS etc get together and check cars in Alum Rock - probably 50% of the cars/drivers they stop are dodgy in some way.

After an hour or so they have to stop because they can't process any more.

It's an absolute disgrace but there isn't the will / resources to tackle issues far worse than dubiously registered cars hence I won't lose any sleep over them.

There are V5 and chassis plates, service history books and dealership stamps available on Ebay - how is that right ?


baldy1926

2,136 posts

201 months

Monday 6th February 2017
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This popped up on my facebook. The only thing is there is no v5 but if genuine its very well priced.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/house.flatexchange...

WilkoIW

79 posts

88 months

Big Rod

6,203 posts

217 months

Monday 6th February 2017
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WilkoIW said:
Years ago I bought my fiancée at the time a MK1 Polo to learn to drive in. It cost me £50.

I replaced the wheelbearing on it and a few other bits and bobs to make it road worthy and legal and she passed her test after a few months. It was a brilliant little car. All well and good...

Except she ran off with someone else then sold the car for £750! mad

rohrl

8,746 posts

146 months

Monday 6th February 2017
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I had a girlfriend who owned a Polo like that. I found that the (lack of) brakes were absolutely terrifying.

Jimmy Recard

17,540 posts

180 months

Monday 6th February 2017
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I just hated them for their styling. They were not bad cars though

wildcat45

8,077 posts

190 months

Monday 6th February 2017
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There are two near me. One was a very nice clean example but the owner for some reason has put a roof rack on it with random st tied to it.

The other is a face lifted Polo. It's not immaculate but it doesn't look its age at all.

EarlOfHazard

3,603 posts

159 months

Monday 6th February 2017
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rohrl said:
I had a girlfriend who owned a Polo like that. I found that the (lack of) brakes were absolutely terrifying.
I learnt to drive in an old X reg Polo, yes the brakes were terrible, I don't think that they were power assisted!

WilkoIW

79 posts

88 months

Monday 6th February 2017
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EarlOfHazard said:
rohrl said:
I had a girlfriend who owned a Polo like that. I found that the (lack of) brakes were absolutely terrifying.
I learnt to drive in an old X reg Polo, yes the brakes were terrible, I don't think that they were power assisted!
I think I recall it was something to do with the right hand drive conversion but I could be thinking of a different model.

Riley Blue

20,997 posts

227 months

Monday 6th February 2017
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WilkoIW said:
EarlOfHazard said:
rohrl said:
I had a girlfriend who owned a Polo like that. I found that the (lack of) brakes were absolutely terrifying.
I learnt to drive in an old X reg Polo, yes the brakes were terrible, I don't think that they were power assisted!
I think I recall it was something to do with the right hand drive conversion but I could be thinking of a different model.
The RHD Mk1 Golf GTI suffered from a rubbish LHD to RHD brake conversion, it was the worst thing about an otherwise excllent car.

poing

8,743 posts

201 months

Monday 6th February 2017
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WilkoIW said:
I'll always have a soft spot for these since it was the car my mum had when I passed my test so I got to drive it when my car was broken (a lot) and I loved it, although it was mega slow even back then. Hers was that VW burgundy that they had on a lot of cars at the time.

Slightly miffed at it being listed as an estate, this was the hatchback and the one with the slope was the coupe. All technicalities of course but it mattered to 17 year old me, especially as we had the breadvan hatchback and I begged her to buy the coupe. biggrin
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