RE: Abarth 695 Biposto: Review

RE: Abarth 695 Biposto: Review

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Atmospheric

5,305 posts

209 months

Wednesday 10th December 2014
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I'd love one. Realky like this.

North West Tom

11,530 posts

178 months

Wednesday 10th December 2014
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I really don't understand all the "I'd rather have this for that money" or "I'd have this and £XXk change". Not just in this thread but any thread about new cars. Bore off. Life isn't about value for money (unless you're Martin Lewis).

SRT77

677 posts

219 months

Wednesday 10th December 2014
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It's completely wicked. It's not really about the cost or whatever costs the same, but I am slightly biased.

chelme

1,353 posts

171 months

Wednesday 10th December 2014
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Oddball RS said:
Max_Torque said:
stats007 said:
What's the point? rolleyes
I'm pretty sure it's removing wads of cash from very rich bored people with nothing better to spend their cash on.............
Or because it could be a hoot, more fun and left field than a Golf Gti or Focus ST, if you don't need the space, and will probably be worth a bit in years to come. Small fast cars always have a point, they are the genesis of fun,
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Mr Tidy

22,432 posts

128 months

Wednesday 10th December 2014
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North West Tom said:
I really don't understand all the "I'd rather have this for that money" or "I'd have this and £XXk change". Not just in this thread but any thread about new cars. Bore off. Life isn't about value for money (unless you're Martin Lewis).
Well I do as my finances have a finite limit and I really cannot see why anyone would pay this much for one of these.
So blah, blah, blah but I would rather spend this sort of money on an M135i, 235i, GT86 and a 500 twin-air (they sound like a proper 500), etc. if I had it!
But still fair play to Abarth for doing it at all.

daytona365

1,773 posts

165 months

Wednesday 10th December 2014
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People do realize that this err Fiat is in decent 964 territory ?

PunterCam

1,073 posts

196 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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When you get products as desirable and cool as this, price doesn't really matter. I think it's magnificent. I sat in a standard 500 abarth convertible with a slightly fancier seat option a few months ago - an £18k or so car - felt like it could sell for twice that. The seats, the steering wheel, the gear stick, digital revs and speedo screen in a little pod - it felt really really special... I've sat in a lot of cars, but the combination of compactness and style with chunk of quality is hard to beat at any price.

The standard 500 abarth is a great little car - I love how Fiat have pretty much shunned the "faster is better" nonsense that's infected most brands (and oddly many "enthusiasts" minds), and have instead made 5 cylinder stilos, 100hp pandas, and this current range of abarths (and I suppose the standard twinair versions).

Best car Fiat/Alfa make, by a long way. If they keep up the light hearted thing, they'll overtake the Germans. Who wants a joyless lump of heavy plastic for a cabin? Who decided soft plastic was high quality?! Mon' the Italians.

405dogvan

5,328 posts

266 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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North West Tom said:
I really don't understand all the "I'd rather have this for that money" or "I'd have this and £XXk change". Not just in this thread but any thread about new cars. Bore off. Life isn't about value for money (unless you're Martin Lewis).
Hey yeah - people shouldn't talk about stuff on a discussion forum - stop that immediately...

The moment someone puts a price-tag on something, it's value/relative cost becomes a topic of conversation whether you like it or not.

Let's be honest here - if we didn't talk about the cost, what would be be talking about?

"Hey look, there's a really smoking Fiat 500 there"

"Cool - how much is it?"

"We're not talking about that"

"Oh - OK - is it pink?"

LasseV

1,754 posts

134 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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stats007 said:
What's the point? rolleyes
Making very fast but dull car to drive is idiotic (golf r, 135 etc). This isn't.

One of the few new cars which i love smile

Daniel1

2,931 posts

199 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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sisu said:
Well the only problem with the Fiat 695 Abarth is that this is what it feels like when you drive it.


The amount they are charging for the fancy kahzi options? You need to tell the Fiat dealer - Mi fa cagare
Unfortunately very true.

That and the crap steering.

But still good fun and I applaud Abarth for making it. Seems typically full of italian madness.

lamby

91 posts

188 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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Notanotherturbo said:
Had to laugh when I saw Fiat claiming the highest ever specific output for this size of engine. My Renault 5 Gordini Turbo with no trick bits , just 5 GT Turbo pistons and liners - still with a carb, 8:1 compression ratio and just 8 valves made 189 bhp and 190 ft/lbs at 16 psi. Some old Toyota Starlets make well over 200bhp from 1.3 with standard internals and bolt on upgrades. Doesn't sound that impressive for 33k to me :0)
We had a misget with a starlet engine in it... That thing was mental rapid!!

stats007

531 posts

236 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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I'm all for innovation and being quirky but this is just more marketing BS - a ridiculous amount of money for something that is compromised from the outset and not particularly well executed. Renault 5 GT Turbo, Metro 6R4 or Clio V6 were all at least something special.

Mark-C

5,139 posts

206 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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daytona365 said:
People do realize that this err Fiat is in decent 964 territory ?
I'm sure they do ... and the people who buy it won't give a fk ....

X5TUU

11,952 posts

188 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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Bonkers love it... Can you imagine in an emergency braking situation on the mway being faced with one of these in front of you with the rear lift off!

Outstanding work Abarth!!

Our of curiosity I took a 595 Abarth out a few weeks ago being tempted for my daily (which is still under debate) and utterly loved it, just don't know if its a tad small

WCZ

10,538 posts

195 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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I love the extravagance of it and have no issue with the money, but isn't the problem here that it's not actually that good to drive, not that light and not that fast

hondansx

4,570 posts

226 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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Agree with that. Got no problem with the concept or price; it's not for Joe Public. As a result, i'd salute it... if it weren't for it still being a rubbish car.

I drove a normal 500 as a hire car and it was fun and characterful. My dad then bought an Abarth and it was horrid; the issue being that when you elevate it to be judged as a 'performance' car is up against far stiffer competition. It felt incredibly unstable with god-awful steering. It was still slow, not helped by the auto that my dad's had.

lee,m

9 posts

209 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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Mark-C said:
I'm sure they do ... and the people who buy it won't give a fk ....
You do all realize for this kind of money you could buy a new merc sprinter luton van, with tailift and start your own removals buisness, you know man & van for hire an all that. rotate

Ali_T

3,379 posts

258 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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daytona365 said:
People do realize that this err Fiat is in decent 964 territory ?
Yup. And I'd buy the FIAT before the Porsche. Not everyone on here is saving up for a 911. I, for one, would rather stab myself in the eye with a rusty fork than own one.

jamespink

1,218 posts

205 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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RacerMike said:
'Box is an H Pattern Dog Box. Not really sure why you would really need it! And for £8.5k you could get a full blown Sadev Sequential....
Exactly! Take a standard car and throw proper racing parts at it and I am sure you would have a lighter, faster, better handling/braking car with a huge budget to actually go racing with. £1700 for plastic windows... 'Avin a larf mate...

soad

32,914 posts

177 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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You can have this or the Alfa 4C. It's like choosing between an amateur porn star and Monica Bellucci. The choice is yours. laugh