RE: Abarth 695 Biposto: Review

RE: Abarth 695 Biposto: Review

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Terminator X

15,108 posts

205 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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kambites said:
I love the idea of a dog-box in a hot hatch but I can't see it being a popular option at any price, let alone over eight grand. The rest of the car does nothing for me at all.
Had one in my Impreza, whined like a biatch!

TX.

epom

11,554 posts

162 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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Bonkers. Simply put I assume they wouldn't be making them unless there was a market for them. I hope they sell them all too. Manufacturers need to do daft stuff to keep us daft people interested smile

jonby

5,357 posts

158 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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daytona365 said:
People do realize that this err Fiat is in decent 964 territory ?
I have a mate with the Biposto on order. He's very excited. Whilst he's waiting for it, if he wants to drive a Porsche, he can drive his Carrera GT. He has two cars due for delivery next year, the Biposto and a 918. Not sure a 'decent 964' is really on his radar

I know both the comment above and my post in general may come across somewhat smug - apologies. Partly I couldn't resist and partly, just want to re-emphasise the point others have made that comparisons with more rational options are not really the point of this car. I couldn't justify a biposto (I run a DD and a weekend/touring car) but I'm not the target market

soad said:
You can have this or the Alfa 4C. It's like choosing between an amateur porn star and Monica Bellucci. The choice is yours. laugh
If the 4C is Monica Bellucci, who will you use in your analogy for the 8C, a car the same mate also owns

MC Bodge said:
Very nice. I'm sure my mate would agree. He already has a 1967 595 Abarth

velocgee said:
Que?! I can't see the sort of person this car is aimed at (footballers (with Ferraris); Playboys (with Ferraris)) even knowing what a Ginetta is!! (no disrespect to Ginetta owners)

btw think it looks cool as fack and will no doubt go down well outside some pretentious West End nightclub.
Said mate is not a footballer or a poser. You won't find him outside any nightclub. He loves cars and loves driving. He races a Caterham so I'm sure he's familiar with Ginetta :-) He works hard for his money. He sold his 12C because it was too boring and easy to drive. It's certainly not a folly. It is however a toy. And it is indeed cool as fack



Of course this will most likely primarily be bought by people with a number of cars and lots of money. But that doesn't mean they will be posers or people who aren't car lovers. You won't get a bigger petrolhead than the guy I am referring to who has a biposto on order. He also owns an F40 and a Dino. He tracks them and does European drives in them. People should be careful about jumping to conclusions and judging who will buy these cars before they have even appeared on the roads



Edited by jonby on Thursday 11th December 14:13


Edited by jonby on Thursday 11th December 14:13

bqf

2,231 posts

172 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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Well, I have read the 4 pages and I'll have to ask.

WTF is a 'Dog-Ring' gearbox? I'm 42 years old, and I have never seen or heard the expression in my whole life.

Dog-leg gearbox - yeah, but 'dog-ring'? Am I am duffer?

jonby

5,357 posts

158 months

Thursday 11th December 2014
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bqf said:
Well, I have read the 4 pages and I'll have to ask.

WTF is a 'Dog-Ring' gearbox? I'm 42 years old, and I have never seen or heard the expression in my whole life.

Dog-leg gearbox - yeah, but 'dog-ring'? Am I am duffer?
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=685587

RacerMike

4,211 posts

212 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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jonby said:
He loves cars and loves driving. He races a Caterham so I'm sure he's familiar with Ginetta :-) He works hard for his money. He sold his 12C because it was too boring and easy to drive. It's certainly not a folly. It is however a toy. And it is indeed cool as fack
I know your friend through Caterham racing. When I read about this....my first thought was.....I wonder if he's got one on order? tongue out I'll be interested to have a look at it!

selym

9,544 posts

172 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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WCZ said:
I love the extravagance of it and have no issue with the money, but isn't the problem here that it's not actually that good to drive, not that light and not that fast
So, is it a set of plastic windows, race seats and a trick 'box with an average car stuck to it?

velocgee

512 posts

147 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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jonby said:
velocgee said:
Que?! I can't see the sort of person this car is aimed at (footballers (with Ferraris); Playboys (with Ferraris)) even knowing what a Ginetta is!! (no disrespect to Ginetta owners)
btw think it looks cool as fack and will no doubt go down well outside some pretentious West End nightclub.
Said mate is not a footballer or a poser. You won't find him outside any nightclub. He loves cars and loves driving. He races a Caterham so I'm sure he's familiar with Ginetta :-) He works hard for his money. He sold his 12C because it was too boring and easy to drive. It's certainly not a folly. It is however a toy. And it is indeed cool as fack

Of course this will most likely primarily be bought by people with a number of cars and lots of money. But that doesn't mean they will be posers or people who aren't car lovers. You won't get a bigger petrolhead than the guy I am referring to who has a biposto on order. He also owns an F40 and a Dino. He tracks them and does European drives in them. People should be careful about jumping to conclusions and judging who will buy these cars before they have even appeared on the roads
Edited by jonby on Thursday 11th December 14:13


I think you've misunderstood where I was coming from with this one. further, methinks it's wrong to think my statement implies that Footballers and Playboys aren't car enthusiasts ....for I have personally known this not to be true. I’m not jumping to conclusion...just something I know altittle about. I agree that folly was the wrong word to use.And in respect of the Ginetta I am a confirmed car enthusiast yet even I barely know what one is laugh

Of course anyone can buy this car. but i clearly said who (I believe) this car is aimed at. tell me, if you were FIAT [marketing] what would you rather: your car papped with a socialite stepping out of it and into some members club/ restaurant in London? or your mate enjoying it on the open road, somewhere?...

that FIAT has a [500] showroom in Marylebone (on the door step of Mayfair) right next to Selfridges speaks volumes of what market they are targeting...

and btw let's not forget to differentiate who can buy something and who something is marketed at. Jay-Z and co. used to buy Cristal Champers. That was until the makers made very clear they were not it’s intended market..... wink

Clivey

5,110 posts

205 months

Saturday 13th December 2014
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pigeonskirt said:
The Wookie said:
PH said:
the sight of racing Abarth 695s with both rear wheels in the air under heavy braking has become a familiar one
I saw this and thought 'surely not' but a quick google returned this...



eek
Hahahahahaha!
My reaction too. - That looks hilarious! nuts

Exoticaholic

1,045 posts

213 months

Saturday 13th December 2014
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Clivey said:
My reaction too. - That looks hilarious! nuts
I have a 595c Competizione but I don't think I could do that!

The car would certainly 'flip heads over heels' in a funny way and the chat with the insurer would be quite lively.

Carl_Docklands

12,239 posts

263 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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Race spec engine, lots of titanium, race-spec box windows etc. in a small package <200bhp, have Abarth just invented a new class of car for the road ?

I know they are getting stick here for the price but looking at what you get, it does not seem that bad value for money.

aeropilot

34,681 posts

228 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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Wonderfully bonkers and pointless, and indeed well done to Abarth for being mad enough to build it to sell.

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AW111

9,674 posts

134 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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With all the "fastest abarth this" and "most powerful abarth that" in the press release article, is that including all the 60s abarth kitted FIATs, or just the new "abarth as a model spec" FIATs?

Also agree with the box question : why not fit a proper sequential box for that price?

I love the idea of mad factory halo models, but this one doesn't do it for me.

jms1

225 posts

197 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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I think it's a fantastic concept and if I had the money I to buy one I'd have one tomorrow! Certainly will be a toy for most owners because as we all know there are faster more capable cars out there for the money but to argue this is missing the whole point.

As said before by many others I agree that Abarth should be applauded for marketing such a product in the first place.

Anyone who is a true petrol head will certainly appreciate it for what it is i.e. a bonkers product smile

only1ian

689 posts

195 months

Monday 15th December 2014
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But what I really want to know, pistonheads, is how does it compare to a BMW 135M?

Is this comment too 2013?

pixelpimp

674 posts

198 months

Monday 22nd December 2014
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[quote=AW111]With all the "fastest abarth this" and "most powerful abarth that" in the press release article, is that including all the 60s abarth kitted FIATs, or just the new "abarth as a model spec" FIATs?

It's the most powerful road going production car Abarth have ever made.
Personally I'd prefer a road going Punto Abarth S2000.


The sled

133 posts

141 months

Friday 2nd January 2015
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I think this looks like a great idea. Firstly it is great piece of design, how many times have you walked through a car park and thought these cars are all so similar and boring. This has panache style and a cheeky glint in its eye. Secondly I applaud this form of mad science, without pushing the boundaries we will never create something new. I remember the cars of the 1990s they looked different sounded different drove differently and all had unique problems, styling and levels of danger. Lets see what they do next maybe they could fit a ferrari or a lamborghini power plant?

I am currently driving a Fiat 500 during the festive period, it is great fun, tardis like in the interior and most importantly it looks different.

s m

23,245 posts

204 months

Wednesday 14th January 2015
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Here's the EVO review

http://youtu.be/buot3rnEEps