Lack of 6th gear in 1.6 Zetec S
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k. The costs of a diesel are too high? Is it the half price insurance or the 50mpg that really racks up the price?
You want low revving, 70mph fuel economy, stop looking at small engined petrol cars designed to get your Nan to and from Waitrose at 18mph and start looking at things designed by men in thin rimmed spectacles and unfashionable sweaters to do exactly the job you're after. Borking a petrol will cost exactly the same to fix as borking a derv and is equally likely to happen, despite what the "considerably richer than yaw" fantasists on the internet will keep telling anyone daft enough to listen.
Simon.
You want low revving, 70mph fuel economy, stop looking at small engined petrol cars designed to get your Nan to and from Waitrose at 18mph and start looking at things designed by men in thin rimmed spectacles and unfashionable sweaters to do exactly the job you're after. Borking a petrol will cost exactly the same to fix as borking a derv and is equally likely to happen, despite what the "considerably richer than yaw" fantasists on the internet will keep telling anyone daft enough to listen.
Simon.
Memorise97 said:
bigdom said:
Fiesta
Fiesta looks good, only thing is they're noisy on the motorway obviously with the 3800 rpm at 70I've read some of your other threads, about the Zetec S, or insurance, or economy or whatever. If you're that worried about economy, just keep what you've got until you can afford to have something a bit less economical.
Alternatively, just get on with buying the bloody thing, and worry about how economical it is when you're driving it day to day.
You may be able to find ways to make it more economical by changing your driving habits, or by half filling it and putting the back seats down. This also has the added bonus of making it faster. Speed holes in the bonnet and OTT stripes may also make it quicker and more economical as well!
Alternatively, just get on with buying the bloody thing, and worry about how economical it is when you're driving it day to day.
You may be able to find ways to make it more economical by changing your driving habits, or by half filling it and putting the back seats down. This also has the added bonus of making it faster. Speed holes in the bonnet and OTT stripes may also make it quicker and more economical as well!
ferrariF50lover said:
The costs of a diesel are too high? Is it the half price insurance or the 50mpg that really racks up the price?
You want low revving, 70mph fuel economy, stop looking at small engined petrol cars designed to get your Nan to and from Waitrose at 18mph and start looking at things designed by men in thin rimmed spectacles and unfashionable sweaters to do exactly the job you're after. Borking a petrol will cost exactly the same to fix as borking a derv and is equally likely to happen, despite what the "considerably richer than yaw" fantasists on the internet will keep telling anyone daft enough to listen.
Simon.
Diesel's need servicing every 6 months, also if the turbo goes, that will be £1200 down the drainYou want low revving, 70mph fuel economy, stop looking at small engined petrol cars designed to get your Nan to and from Waitrose at 18mph and start looking at things designed by men in thin rimmed spectacles and unfashionable sweaters to do exactly the job you're after. Borking a petrol will cost exactly the same to fix as borking a derv and is equally likely to happen, despite what the "considerably richer than yaw" fantasists on the internet will keep telling anyone daft enough to listen.
Simon.
Hammer67 said:
Micra 160SR. Quicker than the figures suggest. 48mpg.
wow, i received a quote of £1300, which for me is cheap, cheaper than the fiesta with 60 more bhp which to me is incredible, some reason I actually like the micra 160sr because it is different, very good suggestion, thank you.Memorise97 said:
wow, i received a quote of £1300, which for me is cheap, cheaper than the fiesta with 60 more bhp which to me is incredible, some reason I actually like the micra 160sr because it is different, very good suggestion, thank you.
Hate to break it to you, but 160 does not refer to the power output...Also, diesel do not require 6 monthly servicing. In fact, most diesels are given longer service intervals these days.
Memorise97 said:
wow, i received a quote of £1300, which for me is cheap, cheaper than the fiesta with 60 more bhp which to me is incredible, some reason I actually like the micra 160sr because it is different, very good suggestion, thank you.
As above, the "160" part refers to the Micra's 1.6 litre engine, not a power output of 160BHP. It's the same naming system used by the Nissan 370Z, for example. I have no idea how much power a N/A 1.6 Micra makes, but I'd bet my life on it being considerably less than 160BHP.
Codswallop said:
Memorise97 said:
wow, i received a quote of £1300, which for me is cheap, cheaper than the fiesta with 60 more bhp which to me is incredible, some reason I actually like the micra 160sr because it is different, very good suggestion, thank you.
Hate to break it to you, but 160 does not refer to the power output...Also, diesel do not require 6 monthly servicing. In fact, most diesels are given longer service intervals these days.
My first car, a Fiesta Supersport which also cost about £2500 (in 1988), was doing 4200rpm at 70mph. 6000 at 100mph.
My second car was probably doing even more - but didn't have a tacho - so, I didn't know.
The Fiesta won't be ruinous on fuel. If that's the car you want then buy it.
Unless you do loads of miles then fuel cost (or the difference between cars) is the least of your costs when buying a £2500 car.
Insurance
RFL
Scheduled Servicing
MOT repairs (Suspension bushes, corrosion, split CV gaiters, shock absorbers, broken springs etc.)
Tyres
Brakes
Cambelt (if it has one)
Clutch - may need replacing.
The old Volvo / Saab suggestions above might not be as daft as they appear.
But if you want the Fiesta, get the Fiesta.
My second car was probably doing even more - but didn't have a tacho - so, I didn't know.
The Fiesta won't be ruinous on fuel. If that's the car you want then buy it.
Unless you do loads of miles then fuel cost (or the difference between cars) is the least of your costs when buying a £2500 car.
Insurance
RFL
Scheduled Servicing
MOT repairs (Suspension bushes, corrosion, split CV gaiters, shock absorbers, broken springs etc.)
Tyres
Brakes
Cambelt (if it has one)
Clutch - may need replacing.
The old Volvo / Saab suggestions above might not be as daft as they appear.
But if you want the Fiesta, get the Fiesta.
Matt100HP said:
As above, the "160" part refers to the Micra's 1.6 litre engine, not a power output of 160BHP. It's the same naming system used by the Nissan 370Z, for example.
I have no idea how much power a N/A 1.6 Micra makes, but I'd bet my life on it being considerably less than 160BHP.
yes yes, as i said i got too excited for a minute, just read a review, looking like they're poor, a granny car, however if it was 160BHP i would not hesitate to look like a granny until the people laughing see the power of the car I have no idea how much power a N/A 1.6 Micra makes, but I'd bet my life on it being considerably less than 160BHP.
Searider said:
My first car, a Fiesta Supersport which also cost about £2500 (in 1988), was doing 4200rpm at 70mph. 6000 at 100mph.
My second car was probably doing even more - but didn't have a tacho - so, I didn't know.
The Fiesta won't be ruinous on fuel. If that's the car you want then buy it.
Unless you do loads of miles then fuel cost (or the difference between cars) is the least of your costs when buying a £2500 car.
Insurance
RFL
Scheduled Servicing
MOT repairs (Suspension bushes, corrosion, split CV gaiters, shock absorbers, broken springs etc.)
Tyres
Brakes
Cambelt (if it has one)
Clutch - may need replacing.
The old Volvo / Saab suggestions above might not be as daft as they appear.
But if you want the Fiesta, get the Fiesta.
thank you, it is likely that i will want the fiesta for my second car, i am looking to keep the car for about a year then to upgrade once again, however if i like it too much i will keep it for an extra year.My second car was probably doing even more - but didn't have a tacho - so, I didn't know.
The Fiesta won't be ruinous on fuel. If that's the car you want then buy it.
Unless you do loads of miles then fuel cost (or the difference between cars) is the least of your costs when buying a £2500 car.
Insurance
RFL
Scheduled Servicing
MOT repairs (Suspension bushes, corrosion, split CV gaiters, shock absorbers, broken springs etc.)
Tyres
Brakes
Cambelt (if it has one)
Clutch - may need replacing.
The old Volvo / Saab suggestions above might not be as daft as they appear.
But if you want the Fiesta, get the Fiesta.
Memorise97 said:
yes yes, as i said i got too excited for a minute, just read a review, looking like they're poor, a granny car, however if it was 160BHP i would not hesitate to look like a granny until the people laughing see the power of the car
Well, if you think they're poor you'd be wrong. I've had 2. A cracking warm hatch, well built and well specced. Nobody wants them because the 1.6 frightens people off due to perceived high insurance so they're cheap. They go very well, (I can vouch for the fact that that flat out is a fair bit higher than quoted) handle brilliantly and don't break down. The HR16DE engine is a gem. Image? Who cares? Be different.
I'd have another in a heartbeat, in fact I will be putting little Miss H67 in one when she gets bored of her K11 Micra.
Hammer67 said:
Well, if you think they're poor you'd be wrong. I've had 2. A cracking warm hatch, well built and well specced. Nobody wants them because the 1.6 frightens people off due to perceived high insurance so they're cheap.
They go very well, (I can vouch for the fact that that flat out is a fair bit higher than quoted) handle brilliantly and don't break down. The HR16DE engine is a gem. Image? Who cares? Be different.
I'd have another in a heartbeat, in fact I will be putting little Miss H67 in one when she gets bored of her K11 Micra.
Seems appealing, but the Fiesta has got the edge over the micra in my opinionThey go very well, (I can vouch for the fact that that flat out is a fair bit higher than quoted) handle brilliantly and don't break down. The HR16DE engine is a gem. Image? Who cares? Be different.
I'd have another in a heartbeat, in fact I will be putting little Miss H67 in one when she gets bored of her K11 Micra.
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