Lack of 6th gear in 1.6 Zetec S
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cossy400 said:
Ive got the diesel zetec s and its never 4k at 70.
Its quite nippy for what it is, but why at your age has it got to be the sport model, step daughter bought a zetec climate I think it was called same engine as my zetec s but a few groups lower,m kept it for 2 yrs and now has a zetec s.
No claims is what you need.
I like the spec, the half leather seats etc, not too sure on the tdci but it's either the tdci or the petrol atmIts quite nippy for what it is, but why at your age has it got to be the sport model, step daughter bought a zetec climate I think it was called same engine as my zetec s but a few groups lower,m kept it for 2 yrs and now has a zetec s.
No claims is what you need.
My friend has a 2011 Fiesta Zetec S 1.6. Pretty slow, expensive to buy, not great economy and the interior is just full of plastic crap. They handle quite well - with the right tyres - but that's the only positive thing I can think about it. Avoid IMO.
I'm also currently looking for my second car, and also restricted massively by insurance. Lots of people on here don't understand quite how much we're restricted by insurance. Anything over a 1.6 litre engine is off the cards as you'll have your pants pulled down massively. I can't speak for you, but I've got some very nice quotes for a 1.8 Vauxhall Corsa C. They're cheap to buy, cheap to run, small, nippy and won't stick out to car thieves like the Zetec S. If you're into performance, the Corsa is almost 2 seconds quicker to 60 which sold it for me.
I'm also currently looking for my second car, and also restricted massively by insurance. Lots of people on here don't understand quite how much we're restricted by insurance. Anything over a 1.6 litre engine is off the cards as you'll have your pants pulled down massively. I can't speak for you, but I've got some very nice quotes for a 1.8 Vauxhall Corsa C. They're cheap to buy, cheap to run, small, nippy and won't stick out to car thieves like the Zetec S. If you're into performance, the Corsa is almost 2 seconds quicker to 60 which sold it for me.
Petrolhead95 said:
My friend has a 2011 Fiesta Zetec S 1.6. Pretty slow, expensive to buy, not great economy and the interior is just full of plastic crap. They handle quite well - with the right tyres - but that's the only positive thing I can think about it. Avoid IMO.
I'm also currently looking for my second car, and also restricted massively by insurance. Lots of people on here don't understand quite how much we're restricted by insurance. Anything over a 1.6 litre engine is off the cards as you'll have your pants pulled down massively. I can't speak for you, but I've got some very nice quotes for a 1.8 Vauxhall Corsa C. They're cheap to buy, cheap to run, small, nippy and won't stick out to car thieves like the Zetec S. If you're into performance, the Corsa is almost 2 seconds quicker to 60 which sold it for me.
I have a 1.2 corsa c energy at the moment, I just wish they had a 1.8 fiesta zetec s, I have had a decent quote for a 1.8 tdci focus but not too sure about that!I'm also currently looking for my second car, and also restricted massively by insurance. Lots of people on here don't understand quite how much we're restricted by insurance. Anything over a 1.6 litre engine is off the cards as you'll have your pants pulled down massively. I can't speak for you, but I've got some very nice quotes for a 1.8 Vauxhall Corsa C. They're cheap to buy, cheap to run, small, nippy and won't stick out to car thieves like the Zetec S. If you're into performance, the Corsa is almost 2 seconds quicker to 60 which sold it for me.
cossy400 said:
Ive got the diesel zetec s and its never 4k at 70.
Its quite nippy for what it is, but why at your age has it got to be the sport model, step daughter bought a zetec climate I think it was called same engine as my zetec s but a few groups lower,m kept it for 2 yrs and now has a zetec s.
No claims is what you need.
I do need no claims yes, but I am looking to upgrade my car every year until I find a nice enough car to keep for more than one year, a 1.6 zetec s is a nice upgrade from my 1.2 corsa, not too pricey, and not too quick, I see what you mean though, the looks of the zetec s in my personal opinion is much nicer than just the standard zetec modelIts quite nippy for what it is, but why at your age has it got to be the sport model, step daughter bought a zetec climate I think it was called same engine as my zetec s but a few groups lower,m kept it for 2 yrs and now has a zetec s.
No claims is what you need.
Memorise97 said:
Diesel's need servicing every 6 months, also if the turbo goes, that will be £1200 down the drain
And if the turbo goes on a Focus ST, I suppose it's free?Where do you get this 6 month servicing schedule? My Clio diesel has an 18,000 mile or 2 year interval, which is considerably less frequent than my petrol powered Jaguar.
Hammer67 said:
Memorise97 said:
yes yes, as i said i got too excited for a minute, just read a review, looking like they're poor, a granny car, however if it was 160BHP i would not hesitate to look like a granny until the people laughing see the power of the car 
Well, if you think they're poor you'd be wrong. I've had 2. A cracking warm hatch, well built and well specced. Nobody wants them because the 1.6 frightens people off due to perceived high insurance so they're cheap. They go very well, (I can vouch for the fact that that flat out is a fair bit higher than quoted) handle brilliantly and don't break down. The HR16DE engine is a gem. Image? Who cares? Be different.
I'd have another in a heartbeat, in fact I will be putting little Miss H67 in one when she gets bored of her K11 Micra.
ferrariF50lover said:
And if the turbo goes on a Focus ST, I suppose it's free?
Where do you get this 6 month servicing schedule? My Clio diesel has an 18,000 mile or 2 year interval, which is considerably less frequent than my petrol powered Jaguar.
Just got told by a mechanic, to keep servicing them on a regular basis (6 months) to make sure they're well looked after, but it's like any car, you could get unlucky and the car just fWhere do you get this 6 month servicing schedule? My Clio diesel has an 18,000 mile or 2 year interval, which is considerably less frequent than my petrol powered Jaguar.
ks up all the time
Matthen said:
Number of gears doesn't really matter - often the ratios are just closer together. You'd be better off looking at the final drive etc. Remember small petrol engines generally produce power higher up in the rev band - the engine sits at high RPM so you can make it up a hill without having to change down.
and so ended the sales of cars with gearboxes with a high top for economyWhat's wrong with changing down?
SR06 said:
I totally understand that you want the best that you can get for your money. However, all good things come to those who wait and all that. The advantage of the 1.6 over the 1.2 isnt really that large to be honest. The Fiesta has a well developed chassis and is fun to throw around, however its no pocket rocket. Keep what you have, even send it to a local detailer for a make-over, pay it off whilst saving and racking up some no-claim years...then take your trade-in value and the money you've saved and buy something interesting in about 3 years. 
This is a great answer, however I just don't think I could last 3 years with this 1.2 pile of stblade7 said:
Hol said:
All 2.8 & 3.0 RWD Capris had a 3.09 final rear diff ratio.
The Type9 5speed boxes ford produced between 1981 and 1991 had an extra overdrive section with a 0.82 gear. This lowered the final ratio.
My 81 4 speed 2.8 injection Capri hit the rev limiter in top around 129 mph, my 83 5 speed 2.8 injection turbo wound the speedo way past 130, many times. The Type9 5speed boxes ford produced between 1981 and 1991 had an extra overdrive section with a 0.82 gear. This lowered the final ratio.
4th gear would be the same in those boxes. 1.0:1
Memorise97 said:
Just got told by a mechanic, to keep servicing them on a regular basis (6 months) to make sure they're well looked after, but it's like any car, you could get unlucky and the car just fks up all the time
You were told by a man who earns his money servicing cars to get your car serviced as frequently as possible. You believed him and his motives? ks up all the timeBuying a brand new motor which goes wrong all the time is bad luck. Having a documented history of a car's life and ownership profile takes away the luck element and replaces it with something altogether more Darwinian.
Petrolhead95 said:
I'm also currently looking for my second car, and also restricted massively by insurance. Lots of people on here don't understand quite how much we're restricted by insurance. Anything over a 1.6 litre engine is off the cards as you'll have your pants pulled down massively. I can't speak for you, but I've got some very nice quotes for a 1.8 Vauxhall Corsa C.
Only if looking at hatches. Buy a car young people dont drive and write off and insurance is cheap. Was cheaper for me to insure a jag xj 3.2 my second year driving than any remotely fast hatch I could find, untill I found the cherry haha.OP have you tried searching cars by insurance group?
http://www.carinsurancegroups.co.uk/insurance-grou...
http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/insurance/top-25-lowes...
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Slow said:
Only if looking at hatches. Buy a car young people dont drive and write off and insurance is cheap. Was cheaper for me to insure a jag xj 3.2 my second year driving than any remotely fast hatch I could find, untill I found the cherry haha.
I haven't had the same experience. Luckily the Corsa is perfect for me and is 'only' £160 a month to insure. I had a Peugeot 405 GRDT 1.9 diesel as my first car.
Comfortable cars. Didn't draw attention to myself and went pretty well compared to the cars that my friends could insure. Such as a 1988 Fiesta 1.1, or a KA etc.
I think the gap on small cars vs big car has changed in that 10 years with regards to cheaper insurance. For me though it was half the price to insure. It was faster, better equipped and a nicer place to be than a Fiesta imo.
Just put your budget in Autotrader and scan through. As others have said. The typical cars are going to be expensive.
I was the same when wanting my first car, but reality set in and then I was actually better off. It's good advice that other people have given you and a path that I took. I was a tight git and trying to save money for my future and couldn't justiy paying expensive insurance for cars that weren't that quick, or good in the first place.
Comfortable cars. Didn't draw attention to myself and went pretty well compared to the cars that my friends could insure. Such as a 1988 Fiesta 1.1, or a KA etc.
I think the gap on small cars vs big car has changed in that 10 years with regards to cheaper insurance. For me though it was half the price to insure. It was faster, better equipped and a nicer place to be than a Fiesta imo.
Just put your budget in Autotrader and scan through. As others have said. The typical cars are going to be expensive.
I was the same when wanting my first car, but reality set in and then I was actually better off. It's good advice that other people have given you and a path that I took. I was a tight git and trying to save money for my future and couldn't justiy paying expensive insurance for cars that weren't that quick, or good in the first place.
mrf said:
Saab 2.0T petrol or 1.9 TID
Madness?.....not really...generally saabs are driven by older, well off males...which means they avoid the "young drivermobile" price hike.
I know of someone whose insurance on a 2.0 litre turbo repmobile was about 2/3rds the price of his 1.2 corsa...insurance answer...corsas are frequently written off in crashes.....
plus bigger car..more toys, makes you look sophisticated and a "man of the world" to the females of the species ;-)
Or like you were driving your dads car! Don't get me wrong, i like Saab 93's and the like, but the OP is 17!Madness?.....not really...generally saabs are driven by older, well off males...which means they avoid the "young drivermobile" price hike.
I know of someone whose insurance on a 2.0 litre turbo repmobile was about 2/3rds the price of his 1.2 corsa...insurance answer...corsas are frequently written off in crashes.....
plus bigger car..more toys, makes you look sophisticated and a "man of the world" to the females of the species ;-)
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