What cars could be 'Singered'?

What cars could be 'Singered'?

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deadslow

8,000 posts

223 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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BMW 2002


0llie

3,007 posts

196 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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I've always wanted to 'resto-mod' a Range Rover Classic. It would look identical to an original outside, but I'd like to throw the modern colour & fabric palette at it. Modern running gear too, or maybe put in a Chevy engine as they did with the Overfinch.

One day... smile

roboxm3

2,417 posts

195 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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E30 M3??

ETA.

Mk1 & 2 Escort.

forzaminardi

2,290 posts

187 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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Nissan Micra? They already have a sewing machine as an engine...

LP670

822 posts

126 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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Defender, original mini, mk2 escort or 240z

Matt UK

17,698 posts

200 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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Rover P5 coupe or Ford Capri.

JonRB

74,554 posts

272 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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A lot of them have already been done.

Singer with 911s, obviously.
Eagle with the E-Type
Beecham have been doing Mk2 Jags for a while, and also the occasional E-type
Frontline Developments do a rebuilt MGB (recently featured in EVO magazine) which uses a brand new heritage shell, MX-5 engine, and brand new parts throughout - a brand new car in effect.
JIA do a Jensen Interceptor with LS power and modern running gear
Morgan have never stopped.

Edit: Looks like Autocar did a mini feature on this, and mention the Jensen, MGB and E-type, plus an alternative to the Singer.
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/modern-...
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/cadillac/cts-v...


Edited by JonRB on Friday 12th December 14:10

LordHaveMurci

12,043 posts

169 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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BMW M635

Pickled

2,051 posts

143 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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928 - Panamera Turbo engine, Corvette 6 speed transaxle

feef

5,206 posts

183 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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FD3Si said:
Yeah, Eagle crossed my mind.

I honestly think a lot of people are missing the point of Singers - you can't take a model that only really existed for one generation and 'Singer'-ify it. Singers are 'Greatest Hits' with bespoke bits. Not just a single model resto done really well.
While Astons aren't all the same care throughout time, I think there's enough DNA shared between the models that it could be done there.

Wasnt there a DB5/6 with modern running gear? IIRC TopGear had one with a similarly modified e-type in one show.

Junglehop

363 posts

188 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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Done... Close thread.

I have always envisaged the "Singer" treatment given to the 80's Turbo Esprit. Its a fabulous design which stands out from the crowd, breath-taking design with some lovely little details that could be nicely enhanced. The interiors lend themselves well to the runched leather and an uplift in quality would bring it on leaps. The chassis is great and can handle plenty more power with the required bracing. You could keep the original engine, rebuild it to push around 300bhp or wip it out and put a vast aray of engines in there. ive seen Audi, alfa, BMW plants in there.

It makes perfect sense... they are sooo cheap (for what they are) they are well regarded and people have a huge amount of fondness for them, fiberglass to so easy to work on.

If I had the money I sorely would....

Really

Goatboy

291 posts

234 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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DonkeyApple said:
roystinho said:
So I've become a little obsessed with Singer 911, I love exactly what they are and everything about them, how everything has been 'reimagined', old skool motoring but essentially a brand new car.

Now I'm nowhere near a position to get one, but it got me thinking, could the business model work for other old cars, specifically old cars that rust? I watched something how they strip the 964 down and e-coat it to stop the rust, then basically cover it in carbon fibre bodywork.

So could you do it to a classic mini for instance? Or would you? Even if the 'business' side of things didn't stack up as it would be a very expensive little car.

What other cars do you think would be a good car to 'Singer'?
An obvious one would be BMW CS with modern running gear. Plenty of shells and parts.
CS with E34 M5 running gear would be rather lovely imo.

BarbaricAvatar

1,416 posts

148 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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BMW E9.




JonRB

74,554 posts

272 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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Junglehop said:
I have always envisaged the "Singer" treatment given to the 80's Turbo Esprit. Its a fabulous design which stands out from the crowd, breath-taking design with some lovely little details that could be nicely enhanced. The interiors lend themselves well to the runched leather and an uplift in quality would bring it on leaps. The chassis is great and can handle plenty more power with the required bracing. You could keep the original engine, rebuild it to push around 300bhp or wip it out and put a vast aray of engines in there. ive seen Audi, alfa, BMW plants in there.
Whilst not exactly the Singer treatment as such, back in the very early days of Practical Performance Car magazine (before it became "Scrapyard Bodger" magazine in all but name) there was an article on a chap who took a very tired Esprit with a blown engine and no interior, and put the Audi 4.2L V8 in it. Some of the bespoke parts he machined from aluminium were minor works of art, although the rest of the car wasn't exactly Concours. As a concept, though, it showed promise.


Edited by JonRB on Friday 12th December 14:42

Wadeski

8,157 posts

213 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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The Esprit is probably the right answer.

They've been doing this forever with muscle cars too. Take a '69 Firebird shell, give it a Trans-Am look and a built, modern version of the same engine using modern fuelling and electrics. Add Hotchkiss suspension and proper brakes. Job jobbed.

There is a company in Germany that "singers" old Mercs as well. AMG 5.5L engines into 1970s bodies with modern trans and brakes.

DanielSan

18,793 posts

167 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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MK2 Jag. Imagine one with the classic lines but upgraded suspension, brakes and the Supercharged V6 from the F Type S...

MajorProblem

4,700 posts

164 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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Hillman Imp.


JonRB

74,554 posts

272 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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DanielSan said:
MK2 Jag. Imagine one with the classic lines but upgraded suspension, brakes and [engine] ...
You mean like Beecham have been doing for years, as I mentioned in my earlier post? smile

Mound Dawg

1,915 posts

174 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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Or Vicarage for many years before them...

dudleybloke

19,824 posts

186 months

Friday 12th December 2014
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Mk2 Scirocco.