Best smoker barges 1-5 large [vol8]
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slippery said:
I have done more lease/bargain barge sums than you care to imagine over the last few years. In a nutshell, if you cover highish miles and own your Ltd company, there is no better way of doing it financially, than in about five grand's worth of comfy but reasonably economical barge, that you own and run privately and then claim mileage against your company for. Anything else is man maths.
I've done the same thing, over and over, and come to the same conclusion. I am always amazed at these lease deals for 10k a year for a diesel dog - firstly what sort of granny only covers 10K a year and secondly why would you ever condemn yourself to 4 pot diesel misery to save literally a couple of hundred quid a year at most on fuel?As R129 noted, lease deals on 25K a year start to get a bit eye watering.
W00DY said:
Like that very much. The stitching on the seats is much classier than the sport versions.
The wheels are fairly common on facelift non-sport A8s; just google image search audi a8 1999 and loads of results show them.
Jobbo said:
Like that very much. The stitching on the seats is much classier than the sport versions.
The wheels are fairly common on facelift non-sport A8s; just google image search audi a8 1999 and loads of results show them.
Yeh, they're my all time favourite Audi wheel, often called the A8 winter wheel. The big monoblocks are just a touch too agressive for my taste.The wheels are fairly common on facelift non-sport A8s; just google image search audi a8 1999 and loads of results show them.
W00DY said:
V nice, but where's the sportline steering wheel he mentions in the text? And surely you'd sort out that scuff on front n/s bumper before advertising for sale?
dme123 said:
I've done the same thing, over and over, and come to the same conclusion. I am always amazed at these lease deals for 10k a year for a diesel dog - firstly what sort of granny only covers 10K a year and secondly why would you ever condemn yourself to 4 pot diesel misery to save literally a couple of hundred quid a year at most on fuel?
As R129 noted, lease deals on 25K a year start to get a bit eye watering.
I'm not sure it's quite so straight forward, is it? As R129 noted, lease deals on 25K a year start to get a bit eye watering.
At 10k miles per year 25mpg vs 45mpg would be a good £800 or so... Not just "a couple of hundred at most", plus the £200 difference in tax and you're already at £1k.
Several lease deals include servicing too, and even if they don't, you're still going to generally be cheaper in the modern car with warranty and very long service intervals. Then you have no MOT fees for the 1st 3 years.
The deposit on some of these cars is also often cheaper than the purchase price than a decent barge.... So in the newer car it's quite easy to he quids up over a 3 year period. The downside is that after 3 years you have no car..... And you start again.
It's certainly no barge but my mum has some how manged to get an mx5 for £200, including free servicing AND tyres for 3 years. Deposit wasn't much either. I remember think I how crazy cheap that was. I don't think many modern barges would be that cheap to run once you account for the differences in fuel, servicing, mot, tax and so on.
E65Ross said:
It's certainly no barge but my mum has some how manged to get an mx5 for £200, including free servicing AND tyres for 3 years. Deposit wasn't much either. I remember think I how crazy cheap that was. I don't think many modern barges would be that cheap to run once you account for the differences in fuel, servicing, mot, tax and so on.
It's a fair argument, but they were saying doing 25,000 miles per year, no way would you get a £200/month lease deal at that sort of mileage, it would be more like £500/month or higher.
W00DY said:
A £60k mega-barge. With no cruise control. 
Why!!??
W00DY said:
I recognise that pic from a few moons ago. Surprised it hasn't gone.hornetrider said:
W00DY said:
I recognise that pic from a few moons ago. Surprised it hasn't gone.How would one of these compare with an E39 M5? I mean for less than 4-bags that seems like a whole lot of car wrapped in a very nice looking package?
hornetrider said:
W00DY said:
I recognise that pic from a few moons ago. Surprised it hasn't gone.SpeckledJim said:
W00DY said:
A £60k mega-barge. With no cruise control. Why!!??
derin100 said:
TBH...the wheels are the only bit I like! 
I would say it's aged badly. Whilst in the 1990s they looked very handsome and understated, they just look very bland now. A 7-Series or S-Class or XJ of the same age may have been more showy at the time, but that means that they look more distinctive now. IMO.RobinBanks said:
derin100 said:
TBH...the wheels are the only bit I like!
I would say it's aged badly. Whilst in the 1990s they looked very handsome and understated, they just look very bland now. A 7-Series or S-Class or XJ of the same age may have been more showy at the time, but that means that they look more distinctive now. IMO.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2000-Volvo-XC70-2-5-Turb...
As something to chuck bikes and skis in, this appeals a lot.
W00DY said:
I'd say timeless. An Alu-bodied, powerful V8 which glides along mostly unnoticed. Such a contrast to the modern Audi way of big grills and aggression.
I agree with that and I think it's a good car, I would rather have a similar age XJ or S-Class or 7-Series is all I was trying to say. I much prefer the styling to modern Audis.
A car which I always thought looked quite similar (at least rear three quarter view) was the Cadillac STS of the time, and I think that that has aged better than the Audi. I would actually really like one of those as a handsome car with a lovely V8 which is different to the norm here.
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