Best smoker barges 1-5 large [vol8]

Best smoker barges 1-5 large [vol8]

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Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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What kind of range do you get from the usual barge?

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

253 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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Krikkit said:
What kind of range do you get from the usual barge?
A 60 litre capacity (70 litre tank, ish) in a 2.4T V70, E320 and 4.0 XJS gets 275-310 miles in the first 2 and about 240-260 miles in the Jaguar.

That tankful costs £27.

Note there is some petrol burnt in there too (at each start-up), so the picture is not quite as rosy as the figures above suggest. But it is still pretty rosy, IMO.

Definitely get the biggest tank possible.

derin100

5,214 posts

243 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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SpeckledJim said:
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Blimey things have been busy in here over the last couple of days.

Baryonyx sorry to hear about your misfortune. These things do happen and at least you are safe (if a little irritated!).

mccrackenj that's a lovely looking thing, congratulations!

I like the colours and spec of the W124 twin turbo as well. I don't know how they would be with almost double the power and some turbo lag though - probably fairly lethal in the wet and hard on the brakes! If the condition is good it doesn't seem like a ridiculous price given the mileage and rarity.

I stumbled across this on my searches... definitely a bad idea, right? Not my usual sort of car, but a 5.5 litre V8 has appeal.



http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2015...
The car that gave the lie to the claim that there are no bad cars any more.

Mercedes' darkest hour.
I agree. Anecdotal as it may be, I have only ever known people who have bought second-hand MLs only for them to then suffer terminal or near-terminal borkage.

Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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I remember hearing that there's two stories to the ML. Early ones are shocking, put together badly with extremely cheap components and were utterly ruinous.

Later on they sorted most of the components and had them put together properly (weren't they originally US-built, then they split production and built them with Magna Steyr?)

0a

23,901 posts

194 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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A very high spec 230 in a lovely colour - grey leather, alloys, air con. And only 42k miles. http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C563721#




Strawman

6,463 posts

207 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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Krikkit said:
I remember hearing that there's two stories to the ML. Early ones are shocking, put together badly with extremely cheap components and were utterly ruinous.

Later on they sorted most of the components and had them put together properly (weren't they originally US-built, then they split production and built them with Magna Steyr?)
The second generation (2006 -2012) is supposed to me much better and is unibody(monococque) rather than the body on frame construction of the first generation. They did make them in Austria for a couple of years, but not since 2002. Most are made in the US but some are now made in India and there is also a factory making them in Indonesia wikipedia says.

0a

23,901 posts

194 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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0a

23,901 posts

194 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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I think these look lovely. In budget though 6 cylinders (how economical are these?) http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/231474025751?nav=SEARCH




phil_cardiff

7,085 posts

208 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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What does a bargista do when economy is desired but diesel is not?!

My annual mileage could well be going up by 150% soon.
This led me to my LPG question above!
Sorry Oa, I didn't see it.

W00DY

15,491 posts

226 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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I think these look lovely. In budget though 6 cylinders (how economical are these?) http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/231474025751?nav=SEARCH



They have that big GT car look down perfectly and those wheels suit them perfectly. lick

I was looking at this 650 on AT yesterday and thinking it'd make for a lovely daily `(out of budget though). http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2015...

phil_cardiff

7,085 posts

208 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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slippery said:
Drive slower? smile
What level of economy is required? An E38 728i can be pretty frugal, as barges go, as can a Saab 9-5 Aero.
I thought LPG might be the answer.

If things go to plan I'll be doing 12,000 miles or more a year and will have a bigger mortgage. \I\'d like something that could get 40mpg plus. My e91 325i is unlikely to do this!

I'd love to keep it/her as we're bonding well but it might be untenable. I need to get out a spreadsheet and see how much various options will save me.

I have visions of me in a Focus TDCi estate. Save me, save me!

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

253 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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I think these look lovely. In budget though 6 cylinders (how economical are these?) http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/231474025751?nav=SEARCH



That colour does it a LOT of favours. Very grown-up.

None of the 'knob-on-a-mission' flavour of the specifications these often wear.

0a

23,901 posts

194 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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Almost smoke silver in pleasantness.

Lowtimer

4,286 posts

168 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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I think these look lovely. In budget though 6 cylinders (how economical are these?) http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/231474025751?nav=SEARCH
Same as a 530i. Anything between 20 mpg and late 30s depending on where and how you drive it.

AKA PABS

316 posts

122 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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Blimey things have been busy in here over the last couple of days.

Baryonyx sorry to hear about your misfortune. These things do happen and at least you are safe (if a little irritated!).

mccrackenj that's a lovely looking thing, congratulations!


I stumbled across this on my searches... definitely a bad idea, right? Not my usual sort of car, but a 5.5 litre V8 has appeal.



http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2015...
That has to be nearly as much car as you can get for 5k but my god you need some balls to be brave enough.

Strawman

6,463 posts

207 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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^^^^ Why does this keep getting posted, some software bug /phone thing?

carlpea

381 posts

139 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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Strawman said:
^^^^ Why does this keep getting posted, some software bug /phone thing?
pebcak

0a

23,901 posts

194 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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Lowtimer said:
0a said:
I think these look lovely. In budget though 6 cylinders (how economical are these?) http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/231474025751?nav=SEARCH
Same as a 530i. Anything between 20 mpg and late 30s depending on where and how you drive it.
It's funny as my old W124 engine seems resolutely stuck on 24-28 no matter what I do. Even a long run at 60 mph didn't see any improvement in economy (so don't bother with that anymore). It does seem that the more modern, and in particular BMW sizes are capable of significantly better MPG.

KrisP

597 posts

180 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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So I made my first car purchase of the year, a 400 quid Ford Focus, 1.8 Zetec 6 months mot and everything works safe for the Aircon.

It's not quite within thread guideline mind, but will tide me over while searching for a nice merc 190e sportline.
Ideally I'd like a 2.6 manual, but I think that may test my patience somewhat in waiting for one to appear, so what about an automatic version? One has popped up in County Londonderry - is anyone close enough to possible assist at all?

Edited by KrisP on Saturday 28th February 18:00

0a

23,901 posts

194 months

Saturday 28th February 2015
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Strawman said:
^^^^ Why does this keep getting posted, some software bug /phone thing?
It's a thread service, whenever anyone posts a merc ML from that era it repeats the bork warning 3 times.
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