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r129sl

9,518 posts

202 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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0a said:
Now I just need to sort the audio and paint. Hopefully I have broken the back of the work!
I'm supervising the restoration of a friend's 300 CE-24. I've put Rainbow speakers in front and back with a little Alpine amplifier to drive them. The amp is concealed in the dash or unor the rear seat. Very similar to what I'm doing to my own 124 and 201. As you know, I'm a big fan of late Becker head units with Bluetooth and iPod control. I'll let you know how it all turns out.

harrykul

2,770 posts

225 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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r129sl said:
0a said:
Now I just need to sort the audio and paint. Hopefully I have broken the back of the work!
I'm supervising the restoration of a friend's 300 CE-24. I've put Rainbow speakers in front and back with a little Alpine amplifier to drive them. The amp is concealed in the dash or unor the rear seat. Very similar to what I'm doing to my own 124 and 201. As you know, I'm a big fan of late Becker head units with Bluetooth and iPod control. I'll let you know how it all turns out.
In the S124 I've gone for Infinity speakers in the front and doors, plus a small Pioneer amplified sub to go under the passenger seat. Will also report.
In my w124, I went for a custom door build to house JBL mids, with the JBL tweeters in the dash spaces, eounded off with a sub in place of the first aid kit. Sub mounted in boot under parcel shelf. The door builds worked out pretty good, but I'm probably going to go for Jehnert when I finally get the damn thing running again.

aarondbs

843 posts

145 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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Thanks to those who answered this morning's question about the XJ8, and regaled us with tales of yore at Brown's Lane.

I'm definitely going to Barge but she's a fickle mistress and I'm now considering an Omega too, or maybe even an mini barge S202!

0a

23,879 posts

193 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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r129sl said:
0a said:
Now I just need to sort the audio and paint. Hopefully I have broken the back of the work!
I'm supervising the restoration of a friend's 300 CE-24. I've put Rainbow speakers in front and back with a little Alpine amplifier to drive them. The amp is concealed in the dash or unor the rear seat. Very similar to what I'm doing to my own 124 and 201. As you know, I'm a big fan of late Becker head units with Bluetooth and iPod control. I'll let you know how it all turns out.
I'd like your advice r129 with both restoring the body on my car, and the audio side of things.

I don't want a car that's suitable for MB world or anything like that - I want a nice looking 300e saloon that won't need bodywork (aside from dings) for the next 15-20 years.

My mechanic is good at the standard stuff, but I have no idea whether his recommended bodyshop place is any good.

I would rather not have the car and put it in somewhere good for a few months and double the cost than be here in 3 years time moaning about my rear arches coming through.

Crazy given the value of the car, but I want my W124 sorted and ready to do another 150k before the next renovation session without issue.

I will travel nationwide for the right place!

whysub

125 posts

110 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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I did 200 miles today in my W124 without any aches or pains (my knees are shot to pieces). Now it is running perfectly (thanks to replacing all the ignition parts for about £120) and i can feel the quality, unlike most of the Euro boxes I get to drive at work. And it has less rust on it than most of them.

It does have one very small paint defect on the roof which I'll get done at my mates place when he is not so busy. He had a stripped out 1970's SL 280 in there today he is doing a few repairs on - very nice looking shape. Highly recommended painter 0a, but he is in Essex, a long way from you.

Baryonyx

17,990 posts

158 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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r129sl said:
It seems to me that what we all have in common is a visit to Browns Lane circa 1998! I had one. I remember trim being old fashioned but the installation of the mechanicals seemed thoroughly modern. Anyway, one of my most loved cars was the £250 XJ40 Sovereign 3.6 from Ebay.

My barging life continues. 400miles today with 100 still to go. Indicators packed up at Chepstow. Stopped in an idyllic spot, popped bonnet, whipped out the relay box, waggled relay and they sprang back to life. I wedged some cardboard in there to keep whatever dodgy connection it is intact. Quite satisfying, being able to fix them. Not one passer by asked if I was ok. fkers.

Wetherby services. I hate this place.

I too have had indicator troubles, in my 160,000 mile Ford Connect at work. I prefer it to the new Astra estates, even! The indicators packed up near the Freeman hospital. I had to drive back to the office using hand signals in rush hour traffic. I bet many drivers have never even seen a driver hand signalling - other than shaking the beans!

Biglips

1,337 posts

154 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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0a said:
I'd like your advice r129 with both restoring the body on my car, and the audio side of things.

I don't want a car that's suitable for MB world or anything like that - I want a nice looking 300e saloon that won't need bodywork (aside from dings) for the next 15-20 years.

My mechanic is good at the standard stuff, but I have no idea whether his recommended bodyshop place is any good.

I would rather not have the car and put it in somewhere good for a few months and double the cost than be here in 3 years time moaning about my rear arches coming through.

Crazy given the value of the car, but I want my W124 sorted and ready to do another 150k before the next renovation session without issue.

I will travel nationwide for the right place!
http://www.mototechnique.com

These guys are amazing. Based in Surrey and not cheap but won't get much better. Did a bare metal respray on my 308 dino for previous owner. I cannot describe how good the paint was. I was on the ferry to France once and a group of guys parked nearby were all over my car. I thought hey just wanted to look at a nice classic but they were only interested in the paint. They worked in a paint shop and marvelled at the quality of the paint job. Good endorsement in my eyes

r129sl

9,518 posts

202 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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Biglips said:
0a said:
I'd like your advice r129 with both restoring the body on my car, and the audio side of things.

I don't want a car that's suitable for MB world or anything like that - I want a nice looking 300e saloon that won't need bodywork (aside from dings) for the next 15-20 years.

My mechanic is good at the standard stuff, but I have no idea whether his recommended bodyshop place is any good.

I would rather not have the car and put it in somewhere good for a few months and double the cost than be here in 3 years time moaning about my rear arches coming through.

Crazy given the value of the car, but I want my W124 sorted and ready to do another 150k before the next renovation session without issue.

I will travel nationwide for the right place!
http://www.mototechnique.com

These guys are amazing. Based in Surrey and not cheap but won't get much better. Did a bare metal respray on my 308 dino for previous owner. I cannot describe how good the paint was. I was on the ferry to France once and a group of guys parked nearby were all over my car. I thought hey just wanted to look at a nice classic but they were only interested in the paint. They worked in a paint shop and marvelled at the quality of the paint job. Good endorsement in my eyes
I have never really found anyone with whom I have been totally satisfied, at least not anyone I can afford. My paint job cost about £3,500 including parts (two wings, windscreen, door, various bits and bobs). Cash. I wouldn't underestimate the cost of parts. There are bits of it I am not happy with and I doubt it will last 15 years without rusting again. There are a few nibs and it is not glass-flat. There is also a bit of overspray on one window trim. I would recommend my guy as offering very good value but not as offering perfection. He has done at least three 124s now, several 201s and several 129s, so he knows and loves the cars. I just think that asking for 15 years plus is unrealistic. Unless you cut out any corroded metal and replace it with fresh steel, you'll be lucky to get two years without blemishes coming through. A lot also depends on the paint system and anti-corrosion treatments specified. I have yet to figure this out although I was impressed with the Bilt Hamber stuff. My man did not like the Electrox primer, though.

BigBen

11,610 posts

229 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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derin100 said:
No....I'm sure they were £90K at least to actually get then because there was such a waiting list.

I had a neighbour in Glasgow just before we moved to Shropshire when they first came out. He wanted an SL55 and had £125K (IIRC) ready to pay for one...but such was the waiting list he couldn't have one. He was only considered for the SL55 if he agreed to take an SL500 first which should have been £90K but he had to agree to take that first for over £100K just to be in line for an SL55.

To actually get an SL55 was well, well over £100K.

In fact, I remember that SL500 definitely cost my neighbour £90K because he asked me to drive him to Glasgow Airport one day in and bring it back to his house. It was only a couple of junctions up the M8 but I remember being absolutely st-scared driving it. I'd never driven anything so valuable. Still haven't actually......

Edited by derin100 on Tuesday 3rd March 19:53
£89k list for the SL55. So not only paying £90k for a car but paying £90k for a £70k car! I would do neither and will continue to grin smugly every time I drive my 15k SL55 wink

Ben

The Don of Croy

5,976 posts

158 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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derin100 said:
I'm just trying to do the maths here...So, say it was £90K new and worth about £5K now...that's £85K over 12 years...that's 85/12 = £7K....Debate...
I'd be more interested in the cost per mile - if it's up at 170k then you're looking at 50p per mile depreciation (no fag packet to hand just mentalisation).

The most expensive I've had was nearly 17ppm (BMW E46 325Ti), but arguably it was also one of the best. My wife's Micra 1.0 (only new car we've ever had) came in at 6.6ppm after 103k. That's a car without pas, c/l, a/c, abs, s/r or even 'leccy windaz. But we loved it.

A friend of a friend bought a Tourag W10 new, after 3 years it had cost 161ppm in depreciation.

In barge land it's still a risk but within budget you'd only have to pass 10k miles to exceed that depreciation.

Agent Orange

2,194 posts

245 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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derin100 said:
Hoofy said:
derin100 said:
an average of £7K/annum in depreciation
TBH I've lost about the same on secondhand cars in the past...
Well this is my point. Who's right and who is wrong here? I'm not sure what the right answer is.
Both are right. Depends entirely on your circumstances and requirements.

Personally my day to day commuter for which I require as close to 100% reliability as I can get and for which I want to spend as little of my life ensuring it's functional I lease. I pay a small premium for the privilege but it's worth it for a very easy life.

For cars that are my toys or that I want to cherish and am prepared to fiddle with myself I buy outright used and maintain to a high level. These cars I'm attached to. Might only be for 6 months, could be for 6 years but attached none the less.

Works for me for not for everyone!

W00DY

15,467 posts

225 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/m...

cool

I am often surprised by the prices these command, but this one looks reasonable value.



hornetrider

63,161 posts

204 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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W00DY said:

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/m...

cool

I am often surprised by the prices these command, but this one looks reasonable value.
It's not sitting right, is it. Or at least, it doesn't look right. Either looks too high or more likely the chavvy chinese wheels are too big with the wrong offset.

Out of interest, how do you get so little power out of a 4.6 V8? Buy it an the US?!


Edited by hornetrider on Wednesday 4th March 11:07

Jobbo

12,960 posts

263 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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derin100 said:
Hoofy said:
derin100 said:
an average of £7K/annum in depreciation
TBH I've lost about the same on secondhand cars in the past...
Well this is my point. Who's right and who is wrong here? I'm not sure what the right answer is.
I'm not sure I've quite lost £7k/annum on any car (or combo of cars simultaneously owned), and I haven't solely stuck to cars within this thread's remit during my life.

If I had to live with £7k in one year that would be quite painful. To do so every year for 12 years would be madness. Although, as SpeckledJim says, somebody has to do it.

BGarside

1,564 posts

136 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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hornetrider said:
It's not sitting right, is it. Or at least, it doesn't look right. Either looks too high or more likely the chavvy chinese wheels are too big with the wrong offset.

Out of interest, how do you get so little power out of a 4.6 V8? Buy it an the US?!


Edited by hornetrider on Wednesday 4th March 11:07
American engine. Also I think those wheels are the originals. Wonder if the LPG works properly?

Krikkit

26,500 posts

180 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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hornetrider said:
It's not sitting right, is it. Or at least, it doesn't look right. Either looks too high or more likely the chavvy chinese wheels are too big with the wrong offset.

Out of interest, how do you get so little power out of a 4.6 V8? Buy it an the US?!
With a proper set of wheels I think that'd sit just fine. Apparently a cracker of a car too.

BGarside

1,564 posts

136 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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Just noticed comment in ad about wheels. Similar style to the original MG wheels but bigger I guess. Love the look of these and with LPG and a V8 it's more tempting still.

Hoofy

76,253 posts

281 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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hornetrider said:
It's not sitting right, is it. Or at least, it doesn't look right. Either looks too high or more likely the chavvy chinese wheels are too big with the wrong offset.

Out of interest, how do you get so little power out of a 4.6 V8? Buy it an the US?!


Edited by hornetrider on Wednesday 4th March 11:07
Aren't Mercedes of the same era similarly powered? CLK430 had 275bhp. Ok, slightly smaller, slightly higher output.

W00DY

15,467 posts

225 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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Now this is a wheel swap.


http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C590148

Not the deal of the century perhaps, but the ad seems honest.

Krikkit

26,500 posts

180 months

Wednesday 4th March 2015
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"Bit of rust" E39. Hmm, very careful inspection needed, but potential to be good. Looks great on those BBS reps though, doesn't it!
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