Best smoker barges 1-5 large [vol8]

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0a

23,900 posts

194 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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olly22n said:
fk i want a r129.
I think I'm the only person on this thread now without one!

mccrackenj

2,041 posts

226 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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KrisP said:
mccrackenj said:
KrisP said:
mccrackenj said:
KrisP said:
It's seems to be correct for that year, clears came on the facelift it appears, with those ones just before it. Personally it's either Amber or clear, not the Inbetween
Have you done anything about that 190e 'over here' yet?

Buy it man, please! I'm having sleepless nights trying to resist going up to see it and ignoring the Ebay listing until it finishes on Sunday night. That interior!

Imagine the reaction at home if I bought another car before I'd even collected the latest wone? Mind you, a full set of C126, W201, W124 and R129 would be nice wouldn't it? Or would it just be a monumental ball-ache looking after them all, plus the wife's Jazz? The reality - of course - is that it would.

Maybe if I bought it secretely and stored it in Harrkul's barn until I sold either the SEC or SL?

"Just off to Coleraine for the day, dear. Why? No reason, honestly" followed by "just off to L/Derry for the day - going to see that PistonHead chappie with the barn I told you about. Why? Oh, no reason, honest, just fancy a day out"

Yeah, that'll work . . .
It's a piece of crap. You don't want to touch it!



I'll pm you but it's hard to describe why I didn't get along with the manual.


The trouble I have is that I've never tried a 190 and I really did want a manual. The car as a whole I like, the colour, the whole package, but the interior as you say is something else. (I did really want a cloth sportline to get away from the lack of heated seats that the majority of W201's and W124's have)
I'm going back to look at the pictures now...
Ah b@lls. I typed a long an hopefully informative response for you re leather Vs cloth vs heated vs electric and manual Vs auto etc etc - but it's gone?!

Maybe I'll try again, but gist is - if 2.6 then auto not manual for me. If no electric seat then cloth every time. Sportline checked cloth absolutely lovely. Sportline leather + electric + memory in a 190e 2.6 auto must be V V rare!

Edited by mccrackenj on Friday 6th March 15:23
You really are singing that cars praises. Tell me more about the auto/manual contemplation

mccrackenj

2,041 posts

226 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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mccrackenj said:
KrisP said:
mccrackenj said:
KrisP said:
mccrackenj said:
KrisP said:
It's seems to be correct for that year, clears came on the facelift it appears, with those ones just before it. Personally it's either Amber or clear, not the Inbetween
Have you done anything about that 190e 'over here' yet?

Buy it man, please! I'm having sleepless nights trying to resist going up to see it and ignoring the Ebay listing until it finishes on Sunday night. That interior!

Imagine the reaction at home if I bought another car before I'd even collected the latest wone? Mind you, a full set of C126, W201, W124 and R129 would be nice wouldn't it? Or would it just be a monumental ball-ache looking after them all, plus the wife's Jazz? The reality - of course - is that it would.

Maybe if I bought it secretely and stored it in Harrkul's barn until I sold either the SEC or SL?

"Just off to Coleraine for the day, dear. Why? No reason, honestly" followed by "just off to L/Derry for the day - going to see that PistonHead chappie with the barn I told you about. Why? Oh, no reason, honest, just fancy a day out"

Yeah, that'll work . . .
It's a piece of crap. You don't want to touch it!



I'll pm you but it's hard to describe why I didn't get along with the manual.


The trouble I have is that I've never tried a 190 and I really did want a manual. The car as a whole I like, the colour, the whole package, but the interior as you say is something else. (I did really want a cloth sportline to get away from the lack of heated seats that the majority of W201's and W124's have)
I'm going back to look at the pictures now...
Ah b@lls. I typed a long an hopefully informative response for you re leather Vs cloth vs heated vs electric and manual Vs auto etc etc - but it's gone?!

Maybe I'll try again, but gist is - if 2.6 then auto not manual for me. If no electric seat then cloth every time. Sportline checked cloth absolutely lovely. Sportline leather + electric + memory in a 190e 2.6 auto must be V V rare!

Edited by mccrackenj on Friday 6th March 15:23
You really are singing that cars praises. Tell me more about the auto/manual contemplation
Yet again my post has not appeared! I'll pm you but difficult to explain about the manual vs auto

idiotgap

2,112 posts

133 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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0a said:
olly22n said:
fk i want a r129.
I think I'm the only person on this thread now without one!
I haven't got one either and starting to feel like I've somehow missed the memo. Have to keep reminding myself that its OK to be different!

RobinBanks

17,540 posts

179 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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JF87 said:


Has this been on? Poor ad from a doubtless ropey suburban dealer, no pics of front seats/dash and suggestions that the driver's door might be a different shade... but other than that this looks splendid to me. Gold and brown leather - Paul Raymond-tastic! One owner too, and spent time in Cyprus which should have kept the rust at bay.

130k, £3,995.

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C587419#
Talking of Paul Raymond, my dad is convinced that he saw Paul Raymond driving in London many years ago in a blue Jaguar XJS. Very shortly after my dad bought a blue XJS (he's never said that he was trying to be like Paul Raymond, but I think he was trying to be like Paul Raymond).

BigBen

11,639 posts

230 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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0a said:
olly22n said:
fk i want a r129.
I think I'm the only person on this thread now without one!
I don't either, but I do have an R107 and R230 so can sleep at night. Then again an R129 would surely add value to my collection by having the set....

derin100

5,214 posts

243 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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The Don of Croy said:
I may be picky, but I'd hope that amount of currency would get you a car without holes in the bottom of the doors;

I think that's a drainage hole not rust.

But as others have said....a manual SL?! nono

Mike22233

822 posts

111 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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SpeckledJim said:
A 60 litre capacity (70 litre tank, ish) in a 2.4T V70, E320 and 4.0 XJS gets 275-310 miles in the first 2 and about 240-260 miles in the Jaguar.

That tankful costs £27.

Note there is some petrol burnt in there too (at each start-up), so the picture is not quite as rosy as the figures above suggest. But it is still pretty rosy, IMO.

Definitely get the biggest tank possible.
I think with city driving in my 540 the range is somewhere about 200-250 miles but on a journey it would be >300.

What tankful is 27pounds?

harrykul

2,770 posts

226 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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LPG

BigBen

11,639 posts

230 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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derin100 said:
The Don of Croy said:
I may be picky, but I'd hope that amount of currency would get you a car without holes in the bottom of the doors;

I think that's a drainage hole not rust.

But as others have said....a manual SL?! nono
Didn't read the advert but did it contain the immortal words 'rare manual version' see also adverts for various Jag XJ6es etc. For rare they could substitute inferior and still be right.

Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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Mike22233 said:
SpeckledJim said:
A 60 litre capacity (70 litre tank, ish) in a 2.4T V70, E320 and 4.0 XJS gets 275-310 miles in the first 2 and about 240-260 miles in the Jaguar.

That tankful costs £27.

Note there is some petrol burnt in there too (at each start-up), so the picture is not quite as rosy as the figures above suggest. But it is still pretty rosy, IMO.

Definitely get the biggest tank possible.
I think with city driving in my 540 the range is somewhere about 200-250 miles but on a journey it would be >300.

What tankful is 27pounds?
It'll probably be a bit more than that now, at my local station it's 58ppl at the moment.

edo

16,699 posts

265 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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E65Ross said:
0a said:
62k mile 750. Hard to value but up at £3k. I like the colour and the back seats look rather comfortable! http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014...



Oof I like that.

I keep seeing a gunmetal grey (any BMW colour beards know the colour name?) 750iL near where I live in...around Southampton and Eastleigh.

Only thing I don't like is that ridiculous aerial!!
Been for sale FOREVA

r129sl

9,518 posts

203 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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BigBen said:
derin100 said:
The Don of Croy said:
I may be picky, but I'd hope that amount of currency would get you a car without holes in the bottom of the doors;

I think that's a drainage hole not rust.

But as others have said....a manual SL?! nono
Didn't read the advert but did it contain the immortal words 'rare manual version' see also adverts for various Jag XJ6es etc. For rare they could substitute inferior and still be right.
It seems I am alone in thinking that the combination of the 3.0litre 24valve engine and a close-ratio, dog leg manual might be both interesting and satisfying in the r129 chassis.

mickyveloce

1,035 posts

236 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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r129sl said:
It seems I am alone in thinking that the combination of the 3.0litre 24valve engine and a close-ratio, dog leg manual might be both interesting and satisfying in the r129 chassis.
I would love that too. I can't enthuse enough about the 300-24, it's truly alive and spins happily around the tachometer with a vigour generally unassociated with the r129.

I've been researching the possibility of a manual conversion for the C36; it's been done before and may allow a touch more involvement.

0a

23,900 posts

194 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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BigBen said:
0a said:
olly22n said:
fk i want a r129.
I think I'm the only person on this thread now without one!
I don't either, but I do have an R107 and R230 so can sleep at night. Then again an R129 would surely add value to my collection by having the set....
Three of a kind beats a pair...

This looks like a good cheap smoker, 300E, 123k miles, sparse on the extras but a nice colour.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2015...


0a

23,900 posts

194 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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mickyveloce said:
r129sl said:
It seems I am alone in thinking that the combination of the 3.0litre 24valve engine and a close-ratio, dog leg manual might be both interesting and satisfying in the r129 chassis.
I would love that too. I can't enthuse enough about the 300-24, it's truly alive and spins happily around the tachometer with a vigour generally unassociated with the r129.

I've been researching the possibility of a manual conversion for the C36; it's been done before and may allow a touch more involvement.
That's an interesting comment - I'd really like to try the -24 engine in a W124. I have seen a lot of comments about it being a lively, enjoyable old thing. Is it better than the later 320?

harrykul

2,770 posts

226 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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0a said:
mickyveloce said:
r129sl said:
It seems I am alone in thinking that the combination of the 3.0litre 24valve engine and a close-ratio, dog leg manual might be both interesting and satisfying in the r129 chassis.
I would love that too. I can't enthuse enough about the 300-24, it's truly alive and spins happily around the tachometer with a vigour generally unassociated with the r129.

I've been researching the possibility of a manual conversion for the C36; it's been done before and may allow a touch more involvement.
That's an interesting comment - I'd really like to try the -24 engine in a W124. I have seen a lot of comments about it being a lively, enjoyable old thing. Is it better than the later 320?
The thing with that engine/box combination is that surely you need a slick, quick shifting box to make the most of it (keep the revs up). Not sure that the box offered would suit, but I'm only going on the last manual Benz I drove (our old 123 about 12 years ago). It wasn't the disaster that people might think, but wasn't suited to hurried changes iirc.



0a

23,900 posts

194 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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What was the manual in the SLK320 like? There's one here: http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2015...





Otherwise it looks like there are only G-Wagons in the manual merc 3.0 litre or above category on Autotrader!

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2014... (this one above budget)


mickyveloce

1,035 posts

236 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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0a said:
That's an interesting comment - I'd really like to try the -24 engine in a W124. I have seen a lot of comments about it being a lively, enjoyable old thing. Is it better than the later 320?
It's a typically late 80's multiple valve device; think 16v golf but bigger.

I've got an E280 M104 at the moment (the white one for sale ) and it feels slower and more refined than the 35 bhp deficit would have you believe compared to the SL.

Mine has a 5 speed auto, and whilst it's way down on low speed torque compared to my C36 (surely the ultimate in line 6 cylinder Mercedes engine) when its revved, it performs really well. The howl of the 300-24 was never replicated by later 104 engines.


Motorrad

6,811 posts

187 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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r129sl said:
It seems I am alone in thinking that the combination of the 3.0litre 24valve engine and a close-ratio, dog leg manual might be both interesting and satisfying in the r129 chassis.
I've read a few comments on US forums from owners of such combinations and they seem to like them.

I also see a fair few manual cars here in Europe but have never got to question the owners.

I wouldn't want one and I know it was never offered but I wonder what the V8 would be like with a manual box because it's a cracking engine.

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