Best smoker barges 1-5 large [vol8]

Best smoker barges 1-5 large [vol8]

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Jobbo

12,972 posts

265 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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CampDavid said:
No. That's, believe it or not, an optional extra!
laugh - so in theory you could just make your car Individual spec by ordering the kickplates and nothing else, I guess. Nice idea to replace the M kickplates on my F11, actually.

GraemeP

770 posts

230 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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vtecyo said:
Massively O/T but what was the delivery on your Capra Pro like waiting time wise? I want a Tues but heard a horror story last week of someone waiting a year for their Capra!
I ordered my Pro in July last year, arrived November. It is THE best bike I have EVER thrown a leg over bar none.

GraemeP

770 posts

230 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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Krikkit said:
Very nice 9-3 and X308 XJR.

On the 9-3 what are the seats/suspension like? I'm going to look at a (sadly diesel) 9-3 Wagon tomorrow and have never used one.
Seats are very comfortable, took a bit of fiddling to get them how I want them. Unfortunately one of the things mine doesn't come with was heated seats. Suspension is fairly firm, but not as crashy as it could on 240/40/18 rubber. I think the weighty boat anchor up front helps make it feel a bit more wafty than a lighter, fewer cylindered donkey

deadslow

8,008 posts

224 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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ess said:
After many moons of lurking on this thread I finally dipped my toes into smoker barge territory with a 1999 XJR.

Inspired by Ecurie Ecosse's Readers Cars thread of 2012.

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Good luck with your purchase! I bought one of these a few months ago and am now in the process of going through the car to get it really good (it was very nice to start with, but they all suffer some similar problems to varying degrees).


4941cc

25,867 posts

207 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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CampDavid said:
mwggriffiths said:
CampDavid said:
Nice . It's strong but if you'll keep it a while and keep it correct it's very much worth it.

Just wish they'd behave regarding the 10k mile 740i price as its a little silly at the moment
That 740i is an odd one - a '99 shouldn't have colour coded sills or clear indicators, and a Sport should have M Parallels, Sports seats (Those are heated Contours, which are an improvement imo) and a black alcantara headlining. I guess its possible those were all changed by plundering the Individual options list, but it seems unlikely?

That said it looks very nice! The rubbers around the shadow-line hofmeister kink appear intact -which would be a first for an E38 in 2015!
My Sport, and many others, had Contours, they seem a popular option. The wheels I *think* were correct on very early 99 Sports which fits. The big issue is the headlining.

Were it a 2001 in that shape it might, might, be a £10,000 car but £15,000 is just a bit too strong IMO
Contours are the sport seat for E38, whether specified optionally on early cars or as fitted to Sport models: http://www.meeknet.co.uk/e38/bmw_e38_buying_guide....

Jobbo said:
CampDavid said:
No. That's, believe it or not, an optional extra!
laugh - so in theory you could just make your car Individual spec by ordering the kickplates and nothing else, I guess. Nice idea to replace the M kickplates on my F11, actually.
£100 per sill, but you had to also specify an Individual interior and/or exterior to be eligible to specify them.

Edited by 4941cc on Friday 17th April 15:41

Minemapper

933 posts

157 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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Phew. Glad you like it, Graeme. Never know if one mans minor scratch is another's deal-killer. Enjoy it.

CharlesdeGaulle

26,297 posts

181 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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A very cheap 300-24 SL that looks like an honest usable project.

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C604380


CharlesdeGaulle

26,297 posts

181 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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And then some Jaguar loveliness.

Lots to like here, but the leaper would have to go. Probably achievable in thread budget. Red. V12.

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C596663



Hard to tell from the ad, but could be very genuine and looks like long ownership. Silver. V12.

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C596440


S3_Graham

12,830 posts

200 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
A very cheap 300-24 SL that looks like an honest usable project.

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C604380

Now that is cool.

Or...could you spend the £1000 you'd spent on this for rust repairs and but one for £3500 rust free??


(O/T, how much to respray and fit my spare front wing on the S124 do we think? £150-200??)

VolvoT5

4,155 posts

175 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
And then some Jaguar loveliness.

Lots to like here, but the leaper would have to go. Probably achievable in thread budget. Red. V12.

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C596663
I love these, they seem like so much car for the money..... but I can just imagine that V12 could be ruinous to run - thirst and general maintenance.... doesn't exactly look like a DIY friendly engine.
Can't help but feel the 6 cylinder cars would be a more sensible purchase.

CharlesdeGaulle

26,297 posts

181 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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S3_Graham said:
Now that is cool.

Or...could you spend the £1000 you'd spent on this for rust repairs and but one for £3500 rust free??


(O/T, how much to respray and fit my spare front wing on the S124 do we think? £150-200??)
The problem is finding something for £3500. You could just use this as-is, fettle it as you go, and then do coachwork only when when the rust got too embarrassing.

As for a 124 wing, there are others here that have done it, but I suspect it'll be more than £200. The rust comes from inside out so you may need some internal remediation, then fit and spray. I reckon it would be closer to £300-600, but that is a complete guess.

Motorrad

6,811 posts

188 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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S3_Graham said:



(O/T, how much to respray and fit my spare front wing on the S124 do we think? £150-200??)
I was quoted 450 euros to spray a Mercedes R129 OE wing including the required removal of the bumper etc and blowing the paint into the door. I was thinking it was a little pricey (around 370 quid) but when you work out the labour it doesn't seem that bad. Think I'll leave the few rust spots TBH as they haven't even come through yet.

CharlesdeGaulle

26,297 posts

181 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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VolvoT5 said:
Can't help but feel the 6 cylinder cars would be a more sensible purchase.
I think the last AJ6 engines are seen as the most sensible option, and I suspect the car in general got more usable and more maintainable from the 90s. But still, V12...

Mustard

6,992 posts

246 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261853777313

A nice looking,low mileage example of Audi rarity

2005 (later shape) A6 3.2 fsi SE Tiptronic Quattro , with low miles, low owners and decent history, nice spec, and excellent colour combo,

Slightly over budget

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VolvoT5

4,155 posts

175 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
I think the last AJ6 engines are seen as the most sensible option, and I suspect the car in general got more usable and more maintainable from the 90s. But still, V12...
V12 but what... 12 mpg and probably not all that much extra performance. Most probably couldn't justify the running costs I guess.

CharlesdeGaulle

26,297 posts

181 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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VolvoT5 said:
CharlesdeGaulle said:
I think the last AJ6 engines are seen as the most sensible option, and I suspect the car in general got more usable and more maintainable from the 90s. But still, V12...
V12 but what... 12 mpg and probably not all that much extra performance. Most probably couldn't justify the running costs I guess.
It all rather depends on what you want it for.

I've said here before that the true bottom-feeding barge-ist should never worry about mpg, and that discussion about fuel economy doesn't become any of us, and should render one liable to a beating with a thick swatch of fuel receipts. Evidently, anyone would make allowances for the car that's used daily for a serious distance, but why would you ever buy a 12 cylinder XJS if you're worried about mpg?

I want one so badly it hurts. I've never owned a 12 cylinder car. I doubt they'll exist by the time I'm wearing sani-pad linings in my trousers. I'm not even that bothered about performance, it's just... 'but look, there are 12 of the fking things...'



Agent Orange

2,194 posts

247 months

Friday 17th April 2015
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Put the R129 in for new arb bushes and genuine steering damper. £120 inc fitting! Not bad at all and makes a big difference.

PlayersNo6

1,102 posts

157 months

Saturday 18th April 2015
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
And then some Jaguar loveliness.

Hard to tell from the ad, but could be very genuine and looks like long ownership. Silver. V12.

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C596440

Like this one, but the pics also look 20 years old. V12 does scare me, not the mpg though.

ess

791 posts

179 months

Saturday 18th April 2015
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deadslow said:
Good luck with your purchase! I bought one of these a few months ago and am now in the process of going through the car to get it really good (it was very nice to start with, but they all suffer some similar problems to varying degrees).
Thank you.
Like yourself I'm drafting out a long term mechanical/cosmetic maintenance plan.

Collect some new 'standard' number plates from Lancaster Sidcup today (current ones are '3D' and bordered).
It came with private plates. I'm not normally a big fan, but they look age related so will keep for now.
All the best
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mr TICKHILL

81 posts

113 months

Saturday 18th April 2015
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ess said:
deadslow said:
Good luck with your purchase! I bought one of these a few months ago and am now in the process of going through the car to get it really good (it was very nice to start with, but they all suffer some similar problems to varying degrees).
Thank you.
Like yourself I'm drafting out a long term mechanical/cosmetic maintenance plan.

Collect some new 'standard' number plates from Lancaster Sidcup today (current ones are '3D' and bordered).
It came with private plates. I'm not normally a big fan, but they look age related so will keep for now.
All the best
s

that looks great

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