Best smoker barges 1-5 large [vol8]

Best smoker barges 1-5 large [vol8]

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SuperHangOn

3,486 posts

154 months

Monday 13th July 2015
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cat220 said:
weebaws said:
weebaws said:
Well it looks like I've gone and bought a P38 Range Rover Vogue off ebay completely unseen.... What could possibly go wrong?

Seems like a good example, most of the common jobs appear to have been taken care of. Fingers crossed all will be well when I head south to collect it next week!

Will come back and add some pictures once I've picked it up
So I picked her up last Friday. Long journey back north and didn't miss a beat all the way home. Really a very pleasant place to spend a long journey.

Needs a couple of bits of cosmetic tidying but nothing major. May get it in to a local specialist for a once over just to make sure all's well.

Couple of pics after a good clean this afternoon






Very nice, is it a petrol? Looks great!
I've had 2 of those and still have a soft spot for them They are utterly brilliant when they're working well.

This goes against the grain for me, but my advice would be not to take it to a specialist or to spend much at all on preventive maintenance. Change the engine oil regularly (it's cheap and RV8's really need it) and keep an eye on the suspension airbags for cracking (that's where 99% of EAS faults stem from). Watch the levels, especially coolant.

Beyond that, I would just let it be. A specialist can find four figures of pointless stuff to do with ease but it won't change when something big goes bang. I spent a small fortune tidying mine up and the engine imploded not long after (cracked block).

Enjoy!

gareth_r

5,740 posts

238 months

Monday 13th July 2015
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Croutons said:
Presumably this is a complete scam ad?

http://motoring.trade-it.co.uk/bristol/used-cars-f...
In May, it was £6950 in Saddleworth rather than £3600 in Bristol.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mercedes-190E-2-5-16-Cos...

BlueMR2

8,656 posts

203 months

Monday 13th July 2015
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gareth_r said:
Croutons said:
Presumably this is a complete scam ad?

http://motoring.trade-it.co.uk/bristol/used-cars-f...
In May, it was £6950 in Saddleworth rather than £3600 in Bristol.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mercedes-190E-2-5-16-Cos...
Bristol ad states same mileage and 1 previous owner, current from 1990, original ad states 6 previous owners current from 2011, very shifty.

The101

369 posts

106 months

Monday 13th July 2015
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I yearn for the day when I can justify buying an old volvo estate!

Max M4X WW

4,799 posts

183 months

Monday 13th July 2015
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Hammerhead said:
Some quality (IMHO) Swedish barges for a Monday morning.

760 GLE Estate. One owner from new, 42k miles. Top end of thread budget



http://www.sherwoodrestorations.co.uk/portfolio/ca...
Love the 3D number plates!

golfer19

1,565 posts

134 months

Monday 13th July 2015
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golfer19

1,565 posts

134 months

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 13th July 2015
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SuperHangOn said:
I've had 2 of those and still have a soft spot for them They are utterly brilliant when they're working well.

This goes against the grain for me, but my advice would be not to take it to a specialist or to spend much at all on preventive maintenance. Change the engine oil regularly (it's cheap and RV8's really need it) and keep an eye on the suspension airbags for cracking (that's where 99% of EAS faults stem from). Watch the levels, especially coolant.

Beyond that, I would just let it be. A specialist can find four figures of pointless stuff to do with ease but it won't change when something big goes bang. I spent a small fortune tidying mine up and the engine imploded not long after (cracked block).

Enjoy!
Looks like sound advice to me. I'll drop the oil and keep an eye on the fluids but otherwise keep my powder dry. Cheers for the tip!

E24man

6,727 posts

180 months

Monday 13th July 2015
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weebaws said:
So I picked her up last Friday. Long journey back north and didn't miss a beat all the way home. Really a very pleasant place to spend a long journey.

Needs a couple of bits of cosmetic tidying but nothing major. May get it in to a local specialist for a once over just to make sure all's well.

Couple of pics after a good clean this afternoon






I think you should be justified, and proudly, changing your login from weebaws to billybigbaws.

Excellent purchase, much envy and admiration.

dscam

1,876 posts

188 months

Monday 13th July 2015
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The101 said:
I yearn for the day when I can justify buying an old volvo estate!
Just got a new smoker having done just that! Albeit only 10 years old and may not be a true barge in many eyes. A lot of car for two bags though and I'm very happy:


idiotgap

2,112 posts

134 months

Tuesday 14th July 2015
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dscam said:
The101 said:
I yearn for the day when I can justify buying an old volvo estate!
Just got a new smoker having done just that! Albeit only 10 years old and may not be a true barge in many eyes. A lot of car for two bags though and I'm very happy:
Looks big and bargish to me... what does signify if a car is a barge or not?

The Don of Croy

6,002 posts

160 months

Tuesday 14th July 2015
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idiotgap said:
Looks big and bargish to me... what does signify if a car is a barge or not?
From experience I'd put a V70 into bargedomsphere. In fact, it was PH that suckered me into a 2002 D5 V70 which was one of the most expensive cars I've tried to keep on the road.

But I still liked it!

As ever, 'barge' is in the eye of the beholder.

0a

23,901 posts

195 months

Tuesday 14th July 2015
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I think a barge is a vehicle that is designed to transport you in comfort, with little focus on 'sportiness' (though it can, of course still be quick at covering ground), without too much focus on outright fuel economy. Overall 'imagined ownership economy' may be used as a justification for a barge purchase though.

A barge should look silly on a hill climb stage.

A V70 is definitely a barge

Edited by 0a on Tuesday 14th July 12:19

Patrick Bateman

12,189 posts

175 months

Tuesday 14th July 2015
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I tend to see a barge as anything around 5 series/E-class size and up. So yes, definitely that Volvo.

3 series/C-class doesn't cut it for me.

Strawman

6,463 posts

208 months

Tuesday 14th July 2015
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I'd say there are at many dimensions of bargedom; size, weight, quality of cabin materials, quality of construction, toys, displacement of engine, original purchase price. How these are varying properties are scored and combined to allow judgement is partly alchemy and some views may vary. I'd say yes a V70 is because; weight, size, quality of construction all score high enough.

EskimoArapaho

5,135 posts

136 months

Tuesday 14th July 2015
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There are posters in this thread who deliberately ignore the meaning of "5 large", so the chances of getting agreement on the meaning of 'barge' are slim. wink

0a

23,901 posts

195 months

Tuesday 14th July 2015
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smilehttp://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C636960

It probably should be priced in budget!


CharlesdeGaulle

26,302 posts

181 months

Tuesday 14th July 2015
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EskimoArapaho said:
There are posters in this thread who deliberately ignore the meaning of "5 large", so the chances of getting agreement on the meaning of 'barge' are slim. wink
Price parameters are merely guidelines in barge-world.


EskimoArapaho

5,135 posts

136 months

Tuesday 14th July 2015
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CharlesdeGaulle said:
Price parameters are merely guidelines in barge-world.
Good luck trying to use that line when buying a car advertised at £6k+ biggrin

rejn

1,991 posts

223 months

Tuesday 14th July 2015
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I've posted this in the other thread, but wondered if anybody on here could help (thanks CdG for the suggestion!)

rejn said:
It's a bit quiet in here at the moment, so maybe you can help with my latest car challenge.

I'm looking for a cheap car for our holiday home in Northern Ireland. Something that'll be big enough to cart the rejn family around, but cheap and reliable enough that I can leave it sitting around for 6 weeks at a time, and it'll start first time whenever we arrive with the kids and not be stranded.

My immediate thought was a W124 estate, and I've found this one for £1340:


I thought that was problem solved, but it turns out the guy selling it is still fixing it, so it's not yet for sale.

I then found this one:


This is clearly a much nicer car than the other one - it's a much newer E320 (versus 200TE). He's spent around £7k on it (including routine maintenance by the sound of things), and he's looking for £4,500 (although even after a quick e-mail exchange, he's suggesting there's some flexibility in the pricing).

What's the general wisdom - if I could get that for £3500, is that likely to be reliable in the way I've described.

Alternatively, I've had a quick look and there are various Passat estates for £2k. All the cheaper options seem pretty unreliable.

I also found myself being briefly drawn to this Subaru for £2,650


What do we think? £3500 on the Merc? Or 2k on an old Passat? Or search harder to find another cheaper W124/settle for a non-estate version?
Any ideas or alternative suggestions in here?
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