Any vehicles without known "issues"?
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I'm toying with swapping out both of our vehicles (a small estate and van) we both drive but are willing to go with a variety of options so the "what car scenario" is very wide. Another van and a small car, a 4X4/Truck and a Convertible for her, a MPV and Sportscar, a Big Estate and a City car so I have been reading lots of different forum areas, reviews and other websites...
Are there any modern (last 15yr) vehicles that don't have a list of issues with at least one potential horror story?
Some stuff I've browsed the last few days with differing levels of seriousness-
Range Rover- Almost everything is doom, suspension, engines, electrics etc...
Cerbera- Almost all need full chassis out refurb?!!
Toureg- Should be like a Golf? No apparently prop shafts fall out and built of toilet paper
Vivario/Traffic van- DMF, choclate engines and gearboxes made of cheese
XC90- 4wd breaks, interior falls to pieces
VW Eos- they all leak like seives
Megane CC- even more issues than the non-CC version
I could go on but you get my point... anything out there that's a totally safe bet?
(Not saying I would want a safe bet car, probably some boring Nissan hatch back, just curious... my heart says buy a Land Rover product and pray alot :-)
Are there any modern (last 15yr) vehicles that don't have a list of issues with at least one potential horror story?
Some stuff I've browsed the last few days with differing levels of seriousness-
Range Rover- Almost everything is doom, suspension, engines, electrics etc...
Cerbera- Almost all need full chassis out refurb?!!
Toureg- Should be like a Golf? No apparently prop shafts fall out and built of toilet paper
Vivario/Traffic van- DMF, choclate engines and gearboxes made of cheese
XC90- 4wd breaks, interior falls to pieces
VW Eos- they all leak like seives
Megane CC- even more issues than the non-CC version
I could go on but you get my point... anything out there that's a totally safe bet?
(Not saying I would want a safe bet car, probably some boring Nissan hatch back, just curious... my heart says buy a Land Rover product and pray alot :-)
thatdude said:
something jap seems to be alright
things break but they never break enough to leave you stranded. Corrolla? micra?
This:things break but they never break enough to leave you stranded. Corrolla? micra?
The Japanese are your best bet for a "no issues" car, Not saying they're perfect, but they do seem to be better than everybody else.
Koreans may be the next best?
Frankthered said:
thatdude said:
something jap seems to be alright
things break but they never break enough to leave you stranded. Corrolla? micra?
This:things break but they never break enough to leave you stranded. Corrolla? micra?
The Japanese are your best bet for a "no issues" car, Not saying they're perfect, but they do seem to be better than everybody else.
Koreans may be the next best?
Edited by Bonefish Blues on Tuesday 16th December 12:54
If you do your research you go in with eyes wide open, you need to decide which combination you want. We have 3 and I'm just getting shut of the youngest - Toyota Aygo because it hasn't been anything like as reliable as I would expect, dealers are crap and it has cost me more in a year than the Tuscan. Touareg had one significant bill under warranty for a steering column of all things, otherwise perfect in 3 years. With today's technology even the simplest of cars can go wrong and the old simple ones suffer from old car problems.
Speed 3 said:
If you do your research you go in with eyes wide open, you need to decide which combination you want. We have 3 and I'm just getting shut of the youngest - Toyota Aygo because it hasn't been anything like as reliable as I would expect, dealers are crap and it has cost me more in a year than the Tuscan. Touareg had one significant bill under warranty for a steering column of all things, otherwise perfect in 3 years. With today's technology even the simplest of cars can go wrong and the old simple ones suffer from old car problems.
But but it's a Toyota!!!!!! PH is going to implode when this gets out
scubadude said:
Are there any modern (last 15yr) vehicles that don't have a list of issues with at least one potential horror story?
The PH answer to everything, MX5. The MK3 has very few issues, non of them major. Some people have minor rust issues, but nothing like the MK1 and MK2 and avoidable, chocolate anti role bar link's (£180 to replace at dealership prices when they go, so not exactly ruinous.), and early wheels that can go a little tatty. No horror stories, no major issues.Better a known issue with a fix dealers/garages are familiar with than an unknown one unique to your vehicle! Spending a few hundred quid on something "they all do" is better than wasting more on diagnostic work whilst they scratch their heads and fail to fix the problem satisfactorily.
To paraphrase Donald Rumsfeld:
Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns -- the ones we don't know we don't know. And if one looks throughout the history of our vehicles and other people's vehicles, it is the latter category that tend to be the difficult ones.
To paraphrase Donald Rumsfeld:
Reports that say that something hasn't happened are always interesting to me, because as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns -- the ones we don't know we don't know. And if one looks throughout the history of our vehicles and other people's vehicles, it is the latter category that tend to be the difficult ones.
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