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Paul O said:
Cornerning lights - anyone else think they are just a little bit daft? I've read some people saying they are really useful, I'm sure it won't belong before they are are declared as a 'must have'. And before those, wasn't the last 'must have' Xenons, before those we had hallogens, etc.
I've just sold a 1997 Audi A4. This had... drum roll... lights. With bulbs. No fogs, Xenons, cornering lights, dynamic systems. Just normal bulbs, the type you bought all those years ago. And amazingly, I never accidentally hit a kerb, or fell into a grate, or mistook a person for a peice of tarmac as I exited a roundabout.
I honestly don't know how I got by on a day to day basis without all this morden light-tech.
You can say the same for winter tyres as well, but having both, I would not want to go back to a car without them. Yes you can drive safely without, but they both make driving so much better. They are not a gimmick, thy actually work well.I've just sold a 1997 Audi A4. This had... drum roll... lights. With bulbs. No fogs, Xenons, cornering lights, dynamic systems. Just normal bulbs, the type you bought all those years ago. And amazingly, I never accidentally hit a kerb, or fell into a grate, or mistook a person for a peice of tarmac as I exited a roundabout.
I honestly don't know how I got by on a day to day basis without all this morden light-tech.
IMHO of course
Paul O said:
Cornerning lights - anyone else think they are just a little bit daft? I've read some people saying they are really useful, I'm sure it won't belong before they are are declared as a 'must have'. And before those, wasn't the last 'must have' Xenons, before those we had hallogens, etc.
I've just sold a 1997 Audi A4. This had... drum roll... lights. With bulbs. No fogs, Xenons, cornering lights, dynamic systems. Just normal bulbs, the type you bought all those years ago. And amazingly, I never accidentally hit a kerb, or fell into a grate, or mistook a person for a peice of tarmac as I exited a roundabout.
I honestly don't know how I got by on a day to day basis without all this morden light-tech.
What a genuinely bizarre argument! I've just sold a 1997 Audi A4. This had... drum roll... lights. With bulbs. No fogs, Xenons, cornering lights, dynamic systems. Just normal bulbs, the type you bought all those years ago. And amazingly, I never accidentally hit a kerb, or fell into a grate, or mistook a person for a peice of tarmac as I exited a roundabout.
I honestly don't know how I got by on a day to day basis without all this morden light-tech.
So basically if something works we should immediately abandon all efforts to improve on it?
Do you use a Sinclair ZX81? That, after all, worked...
Paul O said:
Cornerning lights - anyone else think they are just a little bit daft? I've read some people saying they are really useful, I'm sure it won't belong before they are are declared as a 'must have'. And before those, wasn't the last 'must have' Xenons, before those we had hallogens, etc.
I've just sold a 1997 Audi A4. This had... drum roll... lights. With bulbs. No fogs, Xenons, cornering lights, dynamic systems. Just normal bulbs, the type you bought all those years ago. And amazingly, I never accidentally hit a kerb, or fell into a grate, or mistook a person for a peice of tarmac as I exited a roundabout.
I honestly don't know how I got by on a day to day basis without all this morden light-tech.
Here here. One reason I haven't changed my 2008 Octavia is that the later ones look like a Christmas tree on wheels. Plus the poncy LEDs cost hundreds to fix, whereas bulbs are a couple of pounds. My 6 year old car has never had a blown bulb so longevity isn't a valid arguement either..I've just sold a 1997 Audi A4. This had... drum roll... lights. With bulbs. No fogs, Xenons, cornering lights, dynamic systems. Just normal bulbs, the type you bought all those years ago. And amazingly, I never accidentally hit a kerb, or fell into a grate, or mistook a person for a peice of tarmac as I exited a roundabout.
I honestly don't know how I got by on a day to day basis without all this morden light-tech.
Ari said:
DRLs on the other hand... Saw a Honda sat in the middle of the road for no obvious reason once (daytime). When I got really close it turned out that the indicator was a strip running just above the blazing DLR. Impossible to see.
Had a near miss in that situation - completely my fault as I couldn't see the indicator was on, and seen quite a few other cars where you need to double-take to work out whether the indicator is on - it's quite hilly round here and if the nose of the car's aiming high you just cannot see some of these indicators over the led euro lamps. Safety advantage having drls? No, not at all imho. Another one is electronic handbrakes on some cars - the brakelights come on. With the handbrake. That's handy for the driver behind.
The future's so bright I have to wear shades
Cornering lights, what a complete shower of sh*t!!!
After more than 100 years of automotive progress we have no decided that drivers need a little more light to turn a corner. FFS what on Earth will be next? Before we know it we will have to employ a man/woman to walk ahead of our vehicles and wave a Red Flag to alert others of an oncoming automobile!!!
I have wanted to b*tch about these cornering lights for some time, now the ideal thread permits me to do so.
After more than 100 years of automotive progress we have no decided that drivers need a little more light to turn a corner. FFS what on Earth will be next? Before we know it we will have to employ a man/woman to walk ahead of our vehicles and wave a Red Flag to alert others of an oncoming automobile!!!
I have wanted to b*tch about these cornering lights for some time, now the ideal thread permits me to do so.
Scousefella said:
Cornering lights, what a complete shower of sh*t
Totally agree....I've had them on various German metal for last 7yrs.... Never ever seen the benefit. Mind you, I've also had Xenons since 2002 so concede they may negate the benefit. I'm in the process of choosing a new car now and am gob smacked that they're a cost option on superminis now...Why?!
Well....On my MG midget I have halogen conversion for the 7" round lucas lights and some very effective Cibie Spots. No modern has come close in a long time to matching it for effective lighting round the backroads of Suffolk. Our X-Type estate especially was appalling unless you stopped every 200 yards to manually clean the lights.
But had a C Class coupe on test over the weekend and it has the full blown active bks on the Xenons and it was an utter revelation. On the tightest twistiest sequence of corners I know they were a tad slow to catch up - everywhere else they were simply superb.
But had a C Class coupe on test over the weekend and it has the full blown active bks on the Xenons and it was an utter revelation. On the tightest twistiest sequence of corners I know they were a tad slow to catch up - everywhere else they were simply superb.
DeanoX said:
Well....On my MG midget I have halogen conversion for the 7" round lucas lights and some very effective Cibie Spots. No modern has come close in a long time to matching it for effective lighting round the backroads of Suffolk. Our X-Type estate especially was appalling unless you stopped every 200 yards to manually clean the lights.
But had a C Class coupe on test over the weekend and it has the full blown active bks on the Xenons and it was an utter revelation. On the tightest twistiest sequence of corners I know they were a tad slow to catch up - everywhere else they were simply superb.
Those Xenons are probably HID Do a nice little dance when they light up. Extremely effective.But had a C Class coupe on test over the weekend and it has the full blown active bks on the Xenons and it was an utter revelation. On the tightest twistiest sequence of corners I know they were a tad slow to catch up - everywhere else they were simply superb.
It would be so much easier if they used the citroen DS system all those years ago
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Jonwm said:
My leon has them, very annoying, it's got bendy xenons so not sure why it needs cornering fogs, worse still both come on in reverse..... Strange as it's not the front I want lit up then. I'm getting vcds to code them out after Christmas
My Ibiza had them too, having both come on in reverse was especially annoying because the reverse light on the back of the Ibiza is worse than a candle.Generally didn't bother me when I was driving. Fairly useless, only ever benefited from them once, when turning into my driveway and the streetlamps were off during a power cut.
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