Discussion
In these dark and sometimes foggy commuting hours, I'm amazed how many cars have either one only front fog or worse fogs that go on and off at random. I'm seeing four or five a week with fog lights winking at me at the moment.
Are front fogs and their wiring made to lower standards than other car lights?
All other lights are a legal requirement but I don't think these are - could that be why?
Are front fogs and their wiring made to lower standards than other car lights?
All other lights are a legal requirement but I don't think these are - could that be why?
On my car the indicators are by the headlights and no where near the fogs/cornering lights (as is the case with most cars) so not sure why they should stop you seeing the indicators.
DRLs on the other hand... Saw a Honda sat in the middle of the road for no obvious reason once (daytime). When I got really close it turned out that the indicator was a strip running just above the blazing DLR. Impossible to see.
DRLs on the other hand... Saw a Honda sat in the middle of the road for no obvious reason once (daytime). When I got really close it turned out that the indicator was a strip running just above the blazing DLR. Impossible to see.
My friends 07 Punto has them too. I thought I was going mad when mad when I saw the light go on then off then on again. Also a work colleague replaced his bulb in his fogs 3 times before someone mentioned he had the cornering light option. He felt a righ 'tard
What the Hell is the point of them ?
What the Hell is the point of them ?
Incidentally. Hired a Fiat with them once and they were a bit useless as just lit the front fog on the side you were turning.
With the Merc they seem to be proper turning lights that light the side far more effectively. The Germans seem a bit more thorough (despite the clarion call on PH that 'you're only getting a better dashboard plastic').
With the Merc they seem to be proper turning lights that light the side far more effectively. The Germans seem a bit more thorough (despite the clarion call on PH that 'you're only getting a better dashboard plastic').
Ari said:
They light to the side if the car as you turn. They only work at low speed.
Say you're turning off a main road into an unlit driveway, they'll light it for you as you begin to turn.
If that's the case, then maybe I am a tard. Say you're turning off a main road into an unlit driveway, they'll light it for you as you begin to turn.
I've seen it on 'not new' cars so made assumptions. If they work as you describe then that would probably explain it. Thanks.
northwest monkey said:
Well you learn something every day!
I keep noticing cars with one fog light and when I look again they've got both again - thought I was going mad.
Now I think about it, it does always seem to be the VAG cars.
You and me both! Never realised these existed, although I am only 51 I keep noticing cars with one fog light and when I look again they've got both again - thought I was going mad.
Now I think about it, it does always seem to be the VAG cars.
Ari said:
DRLs on the other hand... Saw a Honda sat in the middle of the road for no obvious reason once (daytime). When I got really close it turned out that the indicator was a strip running just above the blazing DLR. Impossible to see.
Generally the DRL turns off while the indicator is on to help. I've noticed that on a few cars, especially Audis with the LED lights.romeogolf said:
Generally the DRL turns off while the indicator is on to help. I've noticed that on a few cars, especially Audis with the LED lights.
I think it depends on how thoroughly the car is engineered. Some, as you say, are properly integrated to work with the lights and ambient light levels. Other manufacturers just glue them on the front, wire them in and job done. That Honda was definitely the latter (and it was a new car with lights properly fitted, not aftermarket jobs on a chav wagon).
Audi DLRs certainly dim properly as you say.
Cornerning lights - anyone else think they are just a little bit daft? I've read some people saying they are really useful, I'm sure it won't belong before they are are declared as a 'must have'. And before those, wasn't the last 'must have' Xenons, before those we had hallogens, etc.
I've just sold a 1997 Audi A4. This had... drum roll... lights. With bulbs. No fogs, Xenons, cornering lights, dynamic systems. Just normal bulbs, the type you bought all those years ago. And amazingly, I never accidentally hit a kerb, or fell into a grate, or mistook a person for a peice of tarmac as I exited a roundabout.
I honestly don't know how I got by on a day to day basis without all this morden light-tech.
I've just sold a 1997 Audi A4. This had... drum roll... lights. With bulbs. No fogs, Xenons, cornering lights, dynamic systems. Just normal bulbs, the type you bought all those years ago. And amazingly, I never accidentally hit a kerb, or fell into a grate, or mistook a person for a peice of tarmac as I exited a roundabout.
I honestly don't know how I got by on a day to day basis without all this morden light-tech.
My Jag's DRL's dimmed properly when indicating, as do my Discovery's.
When we picked up the wife's Citroen C4 I wondered why her 'fog lights' were flashing on and off as she followed me. I thought, here we go, dodgy French wiring. I also thought I must beat her with a birch branch when we got home to teach her a lesson for driving with fog lights on. After about 30 minutes it dawned on me they were conering lights!
When we picked up the wife's Citroen C4 I wondered why her 'fog lights' were flashing on and off as she followed me. I thought, here we go, dodgy French wiring. I also thought I must beat her with a birch branch when we got home to teach her a lesson for driving with fog lights on. After about 30 minutes it dawned on me they were conering lights!
I have a new Focus ST3 that has corner lights but they are situated just beside the main headlight (it doesn't use the fog lights) which i thought was strange and they seem to come on once your steering wheel goes past 90 degrees at any speed!
Think it'll look strange to other road users as it will look as if im flashing them.
Think it'll look strange to other road users as it will look as if im flashing them.
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