How do you tell someone to turn their lights on?

How do you tell someone to turn their lights on?

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Triumph Man

8,699 posts

169 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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DoubleSix said:
illmonkey said:
How do you tell someone you've overtaken to turn their full beams off? Break checking them seems wrong.

Everyone does 38 around here, so I overtake frequently enough to have it happen. Very annoying.
Hazards. If that fails distance yourself from said moron asap
Rear foglight.

sealtt

3,091 posts

159 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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funinhounslow said:
As with Audis noted above, the Up/Mii/Citigo dashboard is usually illuminated. When it gets dark the sensor turns off the illumination forcing you to put your lights on so you can read the dials.

Such a simple, sensible idea!
Surely even more sensible just to add automaric headlights if they are already going to install the sensor for it?

I've not thought about turning on headlights for about 5 years, it should definitely be standard on all cars in the future.

B'stard Child

28,444 posts

247 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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furrywoolyhatuk said:
Iv noticed this a fair bit in the last few days (more so then usual.

I say let Darwinism do its thing, iv given up flashing etc.
Indeed

Same with brake lights out, fast forward indicators, tyres under inflated. Sure if I pull alongside at a traffic light I'll pass on my comment but if that opportunity doesn't arise then I won't make one or attempt to communicate by any other means.

People are responsible for their own actions and actions have consequences

Triumph Man

8,699 posts

169 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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WRT blown bulbs, I noticed I had a headlight bulb out and was on my way to Halfords to get a new one when I was flashed by someone.

1. I know I've got a bulb out, I'm on my way to get another,

2. You don't have to keep the flash stalk held and blind me, I'm not a cretin who makes a habit of it. What's wrong with a short flash? I would otherwise appreciate your gesture.

Hoofy

76,386 posts

283 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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You saw him... biggrin

Ruskins

221 posts

122 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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Had this with a brand spanking Maserati Gibli few weeks back, guy was driving down un-illuminated A road with just DLR's on which were sufficiently bright to light up the road just in front of him.

Tried for ages to get them to notice by turning off all my lights a few times but to no avail, they turned off onto an even darker b road and I left them to their fate.

zedx19

2,756 posts

141 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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Problem with leaving them to their fate is, some poor sod will be pulling out a junction, not notice the car coming towards them and pull straight out. Person without lights won't be at fault.

mackay45

832 posts

172 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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sealtt said:
funinhounslow said:
As with Audis noted above, the Up/Mii/Citigo dashboard is usually illuminated. When it gets dark the sensor turns off the illumination forcing you to put your lights on so you can read the dials.

Such a simple, sensible idea!
Surely even more sensible just to add automaric headlights if they are already going to install the sensor for it?

I've not thought about turning on headlights for about 5 years, it should definitely be standard on all cars in the future.
I was going to suggest that but you've beaten me to it - I guess auto headlights are probably an option they want to get a bit more money out of you for

Swanny87

1,265 posts

120 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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SimesJH said:
Driving with no lights in the dark is a real pet hate of mine also.

Followed a black Galaxy along the M4 near Heathrow on Monday around 4.30. No lights whatsoever and barely visible. Honestly, what goes on in a drivers mind when they drive with so little thought?

I've flashed a few. Some you win, some you lose.

Saw 4 vehicles, all without lights, on the opposite carriageway of the M4 last week in a 2 mile stretch in the dark. One of them was a large truck.
I'm going to take a wild stab in the dark (pun fully intended) and guess it was an Addison Lee car?

Baz Tench

5,648 posts

191 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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Bonefish Blues said:
Followed someone for a mile doing all of the above a couple of weeks ago.

Penny finally dropped.

What are people thinking about - if anything?
XFactor/I'm a celebrity/Big Brother/the match on Saturday.....

Anything but driving really.

I give them one or two flashes and leave them to it. Hopefully others will do the same and the penny will finally drop, or hopefully, they'll get a tug from plod (not likely).

SimesJH

768 posts

152 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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@Swanny87 - Possibly, although I didn't make a point to look for their trademark logo in the rear window.

Chances are good that it was, though. Newish, driven by the Addison Lee type of recruit, right colour, heading towards Heathrow from London in the middle lane.

I do agree with this DRL talk that they should extinguish at night so that the driver knows to switch on their headlights. It seems that an increasing number of drivers swan around with their front LED's glowing, no rear lights and their instrument lights confidently glowing back at them. I take the point that during daylight they're a safety feature, but by jimminy do they create a safety hazard when it gets dark.

Then there are the drivers' who activate their sidelights as light begins to fail and then are oblivious to further lighting needs thereafter. Surely, it's safer that sidelights should be set so that instruments lights don't come on. Or, shock horror!, drivers should get more training on correct use of lights?????


Leins

9,472 posts

149 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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I just ram them off the road, the excuse being I didn't see them. Safer all round that way I think

Sheepshanks

32,802 posts

120 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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zedx19 said:
Problem with leaving them to their fate is, some poor sod will be pulling out a junction, not notice the car coming towards them and pull straight out. Person without lights won't be at fault.
Yes they would.

But if they've got DRLs on most are as bright as headlamps anyway. Hence I'm not sure what the OPs problem is.

I came up behind a car on the A3(M) the other evening and its rear lights were so reflective I didn't realise they weren't on until I noticed the number plate wasn't illuminated. But there was no problem seeing the car.


Lordbenny

8,588 posts

220 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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I did 700 miles this weekend driving to the Cologne and Brussels Xmas markets in the pissing rain.....the amount of people that didn't have any lights on, on the motorway, in horrendous conditions was staggering. I'm sure there's still people out there who think that lights are purely for night time driving. Also, there was only 1 in 5 people with their rear fog light on...I can assure you, that rear fogs were needed in those conditions especially when overtaking 3 or 4 arctics at the same time. I didn't even try to tell them that fogs were needed...especially the ones that were on their phones!

zedx19

2,756 posts

141 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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Sheepshanks said:
zedx19 said:
Problem with leaving them to their fate is, some poor sod will be pulling out a junction, not notice the car coming towards them and pull straight out. Person without lights won't be at fault.
Yes they would.
Please explain.

gforceg

3,524 posts

180 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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illmonkey said:
How do you tell someone you've overtaken to turn their full beams off? Break checking them seems wrong.

Everyone does 38 around here, so I overtake frequently enough to have it happen. Very annoying.
Reposition your rear view mirror so that they get some of their light reflected back at them.

Swanny87

1,265 posts

120 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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zedx19 said:
Please explain.
Why does that need explaining? Surely it's common sense?

Sheepshanks

32,802 posts

120 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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zedx19 said:
Sheepshanks said:
zedx19 said:
Problem with leaving them to their fate is, some poor sod will be pulling out a junction, not notice the car coming towards them and pull straight out. Person without lights won't be at fault.
Yes they would.
Please explain.
It's a legal requirement to have lights on during the hours of darkness.

zedx19

2,756 posts

141 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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Sheepshanks said:
zedx19 said:
Sheepshanks said:
zedx19 said:
Problem with leaving them to their fate is, some poor sod will be pulling out a junction, not notice the car coming towards them and pull straight out. Person without lights won't be at fault.
Yes they would.
Please explain.
It's a legal requirement to have lights on during the hours of darkness.
So how does that result in the person driving without lights, being found at fault?

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

127 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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Pebbles167 said:
Middle position is front sidelights on only, rears on.

Apart from the middle setting seeming rather pointless
...now turn the ignition off.