RE: Skoda Octavia vRS 2.0 TSI: Review

RE: Skoda Octavia vRS 2.0 TSI: Review

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gigglebug

2,611 posts

122 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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Are there decent suspension upgrades for these and do they make a big difference to readdress some of the ride/handling criticisms? I'm guessing both Bilstein and Koni offer alternatives? Would it be possible even to use spring/dampers from other VAG models higher up the food chain?

J8 SVG

1,468 posts

130 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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ManicMunky said:
moanthebairns said:
Ah, bri-skoda, I used to go on there a lot. After months of topics and posts such as

“I revved my car to 4,000 rpm when cold will it be ok”
“ive changed my badges lets seen another 500 vrs like that”
“winter tyres are a must for urban london”
“is it ok to use independent garage instead of skoda”
“I only use skoda trained mechanics”
“I drive a st box tdi 1.6 taxi and think its quick”
“why would you turn the TC off”

I gave up. Handy for problems though.
Sounds about right to me!
There is the occasional gem though - this should be good when finally finished! http://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/243854-citigo...

kambites

67,556 posts

221 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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moanthebairns said:
Ah, bri-skoda, I used to go on there a lot. After months of topics and posts such as

“I revved my car to 4,000 rpm when cold will it be ok”
“ive changed my badges lets seen another 500 vrs like that”
“winter tyres are a must for urban london”
“is it ok to use independent garage instead of skoda”
“I only use skoda trained mechanics”
“I drive a st box tdi 1.6 taxi and think its quick”
“why would you turn the TC off”

I gave up. Handy for problems though.
I think that sums up all single marque forums, really.

tadaah

214 posts

211 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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gigglebug said:
Are there decent suspension upgrades for these and do they make a big difference to readdress some of the ride/handling criticisms? I'm guessing both Bilstein and Koni offer alternatives? Would it be possible even to use spring/dampers from other VAG models higher up the food chain?
Don't mean to be harsh but: You don't simply swap springs and dampers from other cars.....dampers and springs are set up to suit vehicle weight as well as many many other variables. Unless you can find a car that weighs the same, as well as has the same weight distribution, the same ride height, the same unsprung mass, etc etc etc, this is not going to end well.


tadaah

214 posts

211 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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Beefmeister said:
redroadster said:
24 grand skoda lol.
How very original.

Next!
indeed...and to all the halfwit negative posters, note that when I wanted to get one of these but with some limited select options chosen was looking at a 6 month wait....and a delivery mileage demo one was offered with a ridiculously small discount versus new price.... Oh that'll be because they are cr*p, ugly, overpriced. dull etc etc wont it????


Rutter

2,070 posts

206 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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GreenArrow said:
This report didn't comment negatively on the ride, all other reports I've read say that the ride is now crippling, which is a shame as the older VRS' had really good real world pace due to the supple ride quality. Anyway a good car, but if it were my cash, I think I would take the Focus ST estate instead. From what I've read its just a more engaging car and equally practical......
The ride is decent enough, its not too stiff at all, its not as good as the Mrs' golf GTI with the adaptive suspension but pretty decent all the same.

kambites

67,556 posts

221 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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Rutter said:
GreenArrow said:
This report didn't comment negatively on the ride, all other reports I've read say that the ride is now crippling, which is a shame as the older VRS' had really good real world pace due to the supple ride quality. Anyway a good car, but if it were my cash, I think I would take the Focus ST estate instead. From what I've read its just a more engaging car and equally practical......
The ride is decent enough, its not too stiff at all, its not as good as the Mrs' golf GTI with the adaptive suspension but pretty decent all the same.
I wouldn't say the mk2 had a good ride either - on the (awful) OEM 18 inch wheels ours rides appreciably worse than my Elise at anything above about 30mph. Even on the 16s we run in the winter the ride is average, at best.

rob.e

2,861 posts

278 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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gigglebug said:
Are there decent suspension upgrades for these and do they make a big difference to readdress some of the ride/handling criticisms? I'm guessing both Bilstein and Koni offer alternatives? Would it be possible even to use spring/dampers from other VAG models higher up the food chain?
Yes.

On my mk2 i had TT wishbones (alloy) and bushes - bolts straight on. Lots of good aftermarket stuff too as pretty much anything developed for golf/leon/a3/tt will also fit the octavia.

With light wheels, lighter wishbones, calipers, revised geometry, upgraded arb's and dampers the car was transformed into something much more engaging to drive. More info on my profile.

Clivey

5,110 posts

204 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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tadaah said:
indeed...and to all the halfwit negative posters...
Are you really suggesting that anyone who doesn't like the car is a "halfwit"?

daveco

4,125 posts

207 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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tadaah said:
Beefmeister said:
redroadster said:
24 grand skoda lol.
How very original.

Next!
indeed...and to all the halfwit negative posters, note that when I wanted to get one of these but with some limited select options chosen was looking at a 6 month wait....and a delivery mileage demo one was offered with a ridiculously small discount versus new price.... Oh that'll be because they are cr*p, ugly, overpriced. dull etc etc wont it????
Don't confuse what is popular with what is right.

kambites

67,556 posts

221 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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daveco said:
Don't confuse what is popular with what is right.
Indeed. I mean look at the number of people who buy diesels! yikes

loudlashadjuster

5,121 posts

184 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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kambites said:
moanthebairns said:
Ah, bri-skoda, I used to go on there a lot. After months of topics and posts such as

“I revved my car to 4,000 rpm when cold will it be ok”
“ive changed my badges lets seen another 500 vrs like that”
“winter tyres are a must for urban london”
“is it ok to use independent garage instead of skoda”
“I only use skoda trained mechanics”
“I drive a st box tdi 1.6 taxi and think its quick”
“why would you turn the TC off”

I gave up. Handy for problems though.
I think that sums up all single marque forums, really.
Indeed. Some other favourites are:

"what wheels" and variants thereof
"[fastest model] insurance for 19yo with 3 points"
"had a play with a [ostensibly much faster car]" of course, our hero kept pace. What a victory!
"cheapest way to [silly number]hp"
"look at all these pictures of semi-naked women" because finding porn on the internet is difficult
"bought chip off ebay now car is hesitating/running rough/on fire"

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Wild Rumpus

375 posts

174 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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The vRS petrol models will tow 1600kg legally, so they could manage a light trackday/motorsport car on a trailer....

Glosphil

4,355 posts

234 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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loudlashadjuster said:
Indeed. Some other favourites are:

"what wheels" and variants thereof
"[fastest model] insurance for 19yo with 3 points"
"had a play with a [ostensibly much faster car]" of course, our hero kept pace. What a victory!
"cheapest way to [silly number]hp"
"look at all these pictures of semi-naked women" because finding porn on the internet is difficult
"bought chip off ebay now car is hesitating/running rough/on fire"

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Those are your favourite posts!!! Well selected. Many of those can also be found on PistonHeads. I find that forum very useful for its number of 'How to' posts. Removing headlamps and changing beams for driving on the right were a great help to me. Also how to cure the common rattle in passenger end of facia.

moanthebairns

17,937 posts

198 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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loudlashadjuster said:
kambites said:
moanthebairns said:
Ah, bri-skoda, I used to go on there a lot. After months of topics and posts such as

“I revved my car to 4,000 rpm when cold will it be ok”
“ive changed my badges lets seen another 500 vrs like that”
“winter tyres are a must for urban london”
“is it ok to use independent garage instead of skoda”
“I only use skoda trained mechanics”
“I drive a st box tdi 1.6 taxi and think its quick”
“why would you turn the TC off”

I gave up. Handy for problems though.
I think that sums up all single marque forums, really.
Indeed. Some other favourites are:

"what wheels" and variants thereof
"[fastest model] insurance for 19yo with 3 points"
"had a play with a [ostensibly much faster car]" of course, our hero kept pace. What a victory!
"cheapest way to [silly number]hp"
"look at all these pictures of semi-naked women" because finding porn on the internet is difficult
"bought chip off ebay now car is hesitating/running rough/on fire"

biggrin
I have to say, you don't see many people under 35 driving a vrs.
The looks I get sometimes being a 27 year old who dresses, well lets be frank, like a ned is quite amusing. Middle aged men seem to take it quite personally if you blast past their "quick" taxi.

The amount of pish spouted about how quick they are on bri-skoda is quite alarming, I mean its not slow but fk me its not quick, even with a remapped one...

I have no idea why some buy one though, I mean its full of guys going on about tyre life, how careful they are about thrashing it and mpg.





tadaah

214 posts

211 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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Clivey said:
Are you really suggesting that anyone who doesn't like the car is a "halfwit"?
Nope. Only the halfwit ones (hence "halfwit negative posters"). Constructive criticism is always to be applauded.

I found the car to be generally good and considered buying one. My concerns were over general road noise and a feeling that the car lacked something in its insulation from outside noise (seems a common theme on some new cars including a 320D MSport I had recently) which for me was a deal breaker as it would have been for M-way mainly. The ride was a little sharp but tolerable given the car's "intent".






Clivey

5,110 posts

204 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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tadaah said:
Nope. Only the halfwit ones (hence "halfwit negative posters"). Constructive criticism is always to be applauded.

I found the car to be generally good and considered buying one. My concerns were over general road noise and a feeling that the car lacked something in its insulation from outside noise (seems a common theme on some new cars including a 320D MSport I had recently) which for me was a deal breaker as it would have been for M-way mainly. The ride was a little sharp but tolerable given the car's "intent".
Fair enough. smile

I'm not the target market for this car (I don't need a 5-door hatch or estate) but have just had a look, out of interest, at alternatives. - It's depressing how few decent petrol estates are around these days. I think rather than spend £20+k on one of these, I'd buy a 3-year old 330i Touring (if I could find one) or Audi S4. If it had to be brand new, the only real (non-Golf platform) rival is the Focus ST. So, a choice between dull and hideous then!

kambites

67,556 posts

221 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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moanthebairns said:
I have to say, you don't see many people under 35 driving a vrs.
My wife does and is. She was in her mid 20s when we got it. smile

I'd have thought we were a fairly typical demographic - a youngish family looking for a family car with respectable performance.

Edited by kambites on Thursday 18th December 11:24

tadaah

214 posts

211 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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Clivey said:
Fair enough. smile

I'm not the target market for this car (I don't need a 5-door hatch or estate) but have just had a look, out of interest, at alternatives. - It's depressing how few decent petrol estates are around these days. I think rather than spend £20+k on one of these, I'd buy a 3-year old 330i Touring (if I could find one) or Audi S4. If it had to be brand new, the only real (non-Golf platform) rival is the Focus ST. So, a choice between dull and hideous then!
I think the Octy Estate is definitely a sharply styled car (literally). It's not exciting but it won't date and its not fussy (like the focus)

You're right in that there are few new options, but if you need a newish car for high miles/expected dependability then near new or new is the only option.

Golf R estate might be nice but cost will be immense






griffdude

1,824 posts

248 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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Clivey said:
Fair enough. smile

I'm not the target market for this car (I don't need a 5-door hatch or estate) but have just had a look, out of interest, at alternatives. - It's depressing how few decent petrol estates are around these days. I think rather than spend £20+k on one of these, I'd buy a 3-year old 330i Touring (if I could find one) or Audi S4. If it had to be brand new, the only real (non-Golf platform) rival is the Focus ST. So, a choice between dull and hideous then!
I had an 07 330i Touring which I loved, however my job changed & mileage went from 6kpa to 22kpa so now have an 08 Alpina D3 Touring which is great (better ride & grip than 330i) but I miss the 6 cylinder howl at revs.

I would seriously consider the VRS wagon as a very cost effective replacement when the time comes.