RE: Skoda Octavia vRS 2.0 TSI: Review

RE: Skoda Octavia vRS 2.0 TSI: Review

Wednesday 17th December 2014

Skoda Octavia vRS 2.0 TSI: Review

Having tested the diesel one (by accident) PH gets a spin with the third-gen petrol Octavia vRS



Those equating sense of self worth to a badge still aren't going to get the Skoda Octavia vRS. A quarter of a century on, jokes once traded in the school playground still have currency. Even if those now telling them are happy enough to drive a VW or Audi sharing identical engines, running gear or more.

You can now add 'style' to the practicality and pace
You can now add 'style' to the practicality and pace
A stance made all the more daft upon sight of this third-gen Octavia vRS. A long-time favourite of those ready to embrace cut price VW GTI tech and pace in generous and unpretentious packaging, it's now got a decent sense of style in its armoury too.

With heavy exposure to other MQB platform cars using the same EA888 direct-injected four-cylinder we were keen to have a go with the new vRS too. And then accidentally booked a diesel one.

Proper job
Finally a chance to drive the petrol though, this time in hatchback vRS spec with the six-speed manual gearbox rather than the optional DSG. An estate makes more sense of the Octavia's pretension-free practicality and is actually roomier than the average British house - fact! OK, perhaps not. But both it and the hatch tested still cost about a tenth as much. In fact even the estate is two grand less than the Golf GTI with which it shares an engine.

Snob value be damned, it's a fine vehicle
Snob value be damned, it's a fine vehicle
The horsepower figure plucked out of the VW marketing hat for this application of the 2.0-litre four is ... 220hp, keen MQB spotters quick to notice that, as ever, the torque figure remains steadfast at 258lb ft. From 280hp SEAT Leon Cupra to 230hp Golf GTI it remains steadfast, feeding the conspiracy theory that Wolfsburg maintains the brand hierarchy via spec sheet horsepower figures rather than actual on the road performance.

So the Octavia goes like a spacious Golf R but costs 10 grand less? Not quite. But of all the cars using this engine/platform combo it's undoubtedly the best value for money.

Nanny state
Despite Skoda's place in the VW hierarchy, much of the tech available on the fancier relatives is also offered on the Octavia. Sadly that includes the loathsome lane-keeping assistance that tweaks the steering by a degree here and there, much like an annoying wheel grabbing track day instructor. At first acquaintance on the motorway it feels like the car is tramlining through truck grooves before you realise what's going on and sigh with relief that you can turn it off.

At least you can dial out the fake engine noise
At least you can dial out the fake engine noise
It's only real use? Well, the 15 seconds of 'hands free' driving it'll grant you before disengaging is enough to reach into the glovebox, grab your bag of Seabrooks, open them and place the bag in your lap for some cruising altitude sustenance. Not that we'd ever advocate such a foolhardy act of course.

But how's the vRS on terrain more testing than the M4? Here's why Octavias are beloved of folk like mountain bikers, for whom a typical journey involves a three-hour motorway schlep followed by a last half-hour of quality Welsh blacktop to reach the latest trail centre.

Welsh rarebit
At motorway speeds the vRS gets dangerously close to achieving the official 45.6mpg and is relaxed and comfortable with space to stretch out for all onboard. And then fun and nimble enough for the designated driver to make everyone else feel distinctly queasy once more challenging roads are found.

More unmarked police car than minicab
More unmarked police car than minicab
An extra 49mm in the wheelbase over a Golf means the Octavia isn't quite as nimble and chuckable but then it's always felt from a class above in size terms anyway. And it's true enough that the damping doesn't quite have the finesse of other MQB cars either. It's still decent though, low-speed brittleness opening up to pleasing long-travel float and decent body control that keeps everything in check even through violent direction changes.

As in all applications the engine is linear and functional in its power delivery once on-boost, the binary transition to that state able to unleash ugly scrabbles and tramping from the front axle if the road is wet. No fancy 'diff' here - just an ESP-based simulation. Which is about as authentic as the ear buzzingly intrusive engine noise in vRS mode, thankfully also switchable via the individual setting.

Sporty functional? Buzzwords a-go-go!
Sporty functional? Buzzwords a-go-go!
Working class hero
Even with the hateful interventions cancelled out the steering never really feels terribly authentic but the vRS has a nicely languid ability to make significant progress along decently challenging B-roads. The closest obvious rival is the Focus ST, also available as an estate of course. The Skoda doesn't quite have the Ford's handling authority or aggressive nature but both share a sense of sporty practicality that has us sounding dangerously close to a tick box on a marketing spreadsheet. Next you know we'll be preaching 'lifestyle appeal' from the rooftops.

Ducking that one, from the ice scraper concealed in the filler flap to our test car's optional rubber boot flooring the Octavia just has a sense of the workhorse about it though, albeit one spruced up and now considerably more stylish than it once was. Indeed, in Rallye Green Metallic and with the optional anthracite 18-inch Gemini wheels it's got a sense of style and confidence never before seen in an Octavia, without diminishing the back to basics charm and appealingly raw pace of previous models.

Business as usual then. And business is good.


SKODA OCTAVIA VRS 2.0 TSI HATCHBACK MANUAL
Engine:
1,984cc four-cyl turbo
Transmission: 6-speed manual/6-speed dual-clutch auto (DSG), front-wheel drive
Power (hp): 220@4,500-6,200rpm
Torque (lb ft): 258@1,500-4,400rpm
0-62mph: 6.8sec (DSG 6.9sec)
Top speed: 154mph (DSG 152mph)
Weight: 1,350kg (DSG 1,370kg)
MPG: 45.6mpg (DSG 44.1mpg, both NEDC combined)
CO2: 142g/km (DSG 149g/km)
Price: £23,755 (£24,655 as tested comprising space-saver spare £75, double-sided boot floor £75, Mitsumi Apple device connection and electric sunroof £750).

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Discussion

ManicMunky

Original Poster:

529 posts

120 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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Not to be "that guy", but AFAIK, the vRS models have IRS...

ManicMunky

Original Poster:

529 posts

120 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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Autocar said:
...aided by the vRS’s more sophisticated and quieter multi-link rear axle...
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/skoda/octavia-...

Beefmeister

16,482 posts

230 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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Boom. Bit of research next time!

J4CKO

41,551 posts

200 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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Does the engine differ to the others (i.e. S£ etc) hjust through the mapping or is the hardware different ?

kambites

67,556 posts

221 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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yes The VRS uses the multilink rear-end.

So just about the only criticism of the car in the article is, in fact, not true. hehe


I'm intreagued to see how much better the new one is than the mk2. The mk2 feels capable but I couldn't call it "sporty" with a straight face.

Edited by kambites on Wednesday 17th December 10:05

stumpage

2,111 posts

226 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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The 'Simply Clever' Ice scraper in the filler cap. Yep it's great....except for when it's icy, the time when you want to use it and the filler flap is iced closed!

As for the fake exhaust noise. I soon took care of that by getting my hand under the trim below the windscreen and unplugging the annoying thing. The car sounds great without it, with quite a pleasant exhaust note for a standard 4 pot petrol.

On the whole though ours (TSI Manual Estate) is proving to be the perfect combination of Fun/ Family workhorse.

Turbobanana

6,266 posts

201 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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I've a MkI Estate and it's a good car, barring the not-very-child-friendly white interior and exhaust that looke like a giant USB-port.

I was going to change it but it's just passed its MoT so I figure I'll keep it as a winter hack: it's probably only worth a bag and is fun to drive.

Clivey

5,110 posts

204 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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I'm sorry but it just does nothing for me. I don't mean the type of car - a practical all-rounder with a touch of performance - it's just that this seems like a boring, generic lump...not helped by the "same old" Golf underpinnings. Does it have any character?

kambites

67,556 posts

221 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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Clivey said:
Does it have any character?
The mk2 certainly doesn't, but then nor does any of the obvious current competition. Ultimately it's a front wheel drive turbocharged four-pot powered family car; there's a limit to how much character you can give it without detracting from its practicality.

Edited by kambites on Wednesday 17th December 10:52

Axionknight

8,505 posts

135 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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A good, competent car, I really like these - but it would HAVE to be an estate if I were to make the purchase.

Do they still do 'em in yellow? Depreciation be damned!

Rutter

2,070 posts

206 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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I've recently picked up my rallye green DSG hatch, its been a revelation for me, my first four door practical car after having small 3 door hatchbacks for so long i am loving the ability to carry passengers, its comfy and has enough go for what i need it for.

justa1972

303 posts

137 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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For me that's a fine looking car - drive the mk2 many times and always quite liked it

McAndy

12,449 posts

177 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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If I'm ever in a position to consider a company car I'll be carefully looking at the maths on these. I sat in one in the summer at a show and it's a very pleasant place to be.

Escort Si-130

3,272 posts

180 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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PMSL at frozen filer cap when its icy. Any true enthusiast would NOT use an ice scrapper for the windscreen. They leave marks and scratches on the glass. Much better to use standard temperature water.

stumpage said:
The 'Simply Clever' Ice scraper in the filler cap. Yep it's great....except for when it's icy, the time when you want to use it and the filler flap is iced closed!

As for the fake exhaust noise. I soon took care of that by getting my hand under the trim below the windscreen and unplugging the annoying thing. The car sounds great without it, with quite a pleasant exhaust note for a standard 4 pot petrol.

On the whole though ours (TSI Manual Estate) is proving to be the perfect combination of Fun/ Family workhorse.

Scottland

75 posts

201 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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kambites said:
I'm intreagued to see how much better the new one is than the mk2. The mk2 feels capable but I couldn't call it "sporty" with a straight face.
Don't know how it compares to the Golf GTI as I've not driven one yet, but the Golf feels quite soft and 'pleasant'. Compared to the Golf R which felt much more poised...

Clivey

5,110 posts

204 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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kambites said:
The mk2 certainly doesn't, but then nor does any of the obvious current competition. Ultimately it's a front wheel drive turbocharged four-pot powered family car; there's a limit to how much character you can give it without detracting from its practicality.
I'm sure the likes of Citroen could've found a way to give it a personality injection (and no; I don't mean electrical faults and brittle trim wink ). Actually, the fact that it's a turbo 4-pot and FWD doesn't automatically mean it has to be bland - our Mini JCW certainly has character, as does something like an Astra VXR. It's just that this Octavia seems so...prescribed. That seems to be the VAG way though.

Dazed & Confused

202 posts

204 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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Escort Si-130 said:
PMSL at frozen filer cap when its icy. Any true enthusiast would NOT use an ice scrapper for the windscreen. They leave marks and scratches on the glass. Much better to use standard temperature water.
What the hell are you scraping your windows with?

Glass is miles harder than ice or plastic. It's actually even harder than regular steel:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohs_scale_of_mineral...


MustardCutter

238 posts

120 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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kambites said:
yes The VRS uses the multilink rear-end.

So just about the only criticism of the car in the article is, in fact, not true. hehe

Edited by kambites on Wednesday 17th December 10:05
As the reviewer has got the suspension wrong it makes me wonder whether motoring journalists can actually tell the difference between the two rear suspension types or it's just a prejudice they take into the review and convince themselves that one is noticeably worse than the other, marking down the torsion beam accordingly. Could a manufacturer produce a well set-up torsion beam that beats a less well setup independent system but be marked down purely because the reviewer believes torsion beam must always be worse than independent? Especially as the torsion beam is incorrectly presented as a reason why the reviewer didn't like the suspension in this car.


Edited by MustardCutter on Wednesday 17th December 11:37

Roo

11,503 posts

207 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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Tell that to the screen on my car.

What have they done to the bootlid on these cars?

See one in the metal and it looks like it's had an accident.

Edited by Roo on Wednesday 17th December 11:52

CraigyMc

16,404 posts

236 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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The Article said:
the torque figure remains steadfast at 258lb ft. From SEAT Leon Cupra to Golf GTI, R and Audi S3 t'was ever thus, feeding the conspiracy theory that Wolfsburg maintains the brand hierarchy via spec sheet horsepower figures rather than actual on the road performance.
258lb/ft is pretty much spot on 350 Nm.
Gearboxes are rated by torque, not by power.
The torque (as stated) is likely to be like that to preserve transmission durability/reliability rather than to preserve brand hierarchy.