What stops you excessively speeding?
Poll: What stops you excessively speeding?
Total Members Polled: 869
Discussion
DonkeyApple said:
Most people do not use excessive speed out of respect for other people.
The law is there, as always, to assist those who lack respect for others. As a generalisation.
As always the problem is the number associated with "excessive speed"The law is there, as always, to assist those who lack respect for others. As a generalisation.
I don't speed where there are likely to be people however I very much object to being told that 40 is the appropriate speed on a clear country A road on a summer's evening.
DonkeyApple said:
Why? It's people who don't think of others or give consideration to others that make UK roads unpleasant these days.
I very much believe that most people are self regulating when it comes to speed and much of that self regulation is not derived from fear of a fine but respect of possible consequences of their actions.
If you think that pompous then I am genuinely sorry for you. Sad.
To be honest I don't, but that isn't really what you said, is it?I very much believe that most people are self regulating when it comes to speed and much of that self regulation is not derived from fear of a fine but respect of possible consequences of their actions.
If you think that pompous then I am genuinely sorry for you. Sad.
Your previous post implies that any law breaking indicates a lack of respect for others. This I do find rather pompous.
Surely it depends?
Big 'ol road with a silly limit - being caught.
Motorway journey - fuel/stress (I have a 1.2 s
tbox, at 70 it's happy - just, at 80 it's too loud to tolerate for long, and chewing fuel).
NSL or residential road - the speed limit may well be sensible, or even optimistic. So fear of an accident.
Big 'ol road with a silly limit - being caught.
Motorway journey - fuel/stress (I have a 1.2 s
tbox, at 70 it's happy - just, at 80 it's too loud to tolerate for long, and chewing fuel).NSL or residential road - the speed limit may well be sensible, or even optimistic. So fear of an accident.
Perhaps the title `should' have been `what stops you travelling at an inappropriate speed?' One that is not in accordance with road conditions, weather, visibility, surrounding traffic.
When accidents occur, it could be argued that they are most often caused by people travelling at an inappropriate speed relative to conditions and that of other road users them, and that can be too slow as well as too fast.
Travelling too slowly, is also travelling at an inappropriate speed. In my view dawdlers are just as dangerous, as those who `greatly' exceed the various posted, and dynamic limits which apply to vehicle use.
When accidents occur, it could be argued that they are most often caused by people travelling at an inappropriate speed relative to conditions and that of other road users them, and that can be too slow as well as too fast.
Travelling too slowly, is also travelling at an inappropriate speed. In my view dawdlers are just as dangerous, as those who `greatly' exceed the various posted, and dynamic limits which apply to vehicle use.
V8RX7 said:
DonkeyApple said:
Most people do not use excessive speed out of respect for other people.
The law is there, as always, to assist those who lack respect for others. As a generalisation.
As always the problem is the number associated with "excessive speed"The law is there, as always, to assist those who lack respect for others. As a generalisation.
I don't speed where there are likely to be people however I very much object to being told that 40 is the appropriate speed on a clear country A road on a summer's evening.
tomjol said:
DonkeyApple said:
Why? It's people who don't think of others or give consideration to others that make UK roads unpleasant these days.
I very much believe that most people are self regulating when it comes to speed and much of that self regulation is not derived from fear of a fine but respect of possible consequences of their actions.
If you think that pompous then I am genuinely sorry for you. Sad.
To be honest I don't, but that isn't really what you said, is it?I very much believe that most people are self regulating when it comes to speed and much of that self regulation is not derived from fear of a fine but respect of possible consequences of their actions.
If you think that pompous then I am genuinely sorry for you. Sad.
Your previous post implies that any law breaking indicates a lack of respect for others. This I do find rather pompous.
DonkeyApple said:
No need. Go get your therapy elsewhere. N&P forum is where those needing a fight as a quick fix usually hang out. Shame it seems to be spreading all over PH. Bye.
Not after a fight. Presumably I have misinterpreted what you said; telling me to read it again is unlikely to change that interpretation. If you were willing to have an adult conversation you would probably find that I agree with you.Never mind eh
Paul O said:
83% of a poll of more than 570 people said "fear of being caught" rather than fear of crashing. That's a lot of invincible people.
Suggests the points/jail system we have really does it's job as a deterrent.
Surprised it is only 83%. Speed limits either the same or often lower than 40 years ago, when I used to exceed them much more than I do today. Comfortable cruiing at 125 on unlimited German roads. Suggests the points/jail system we have really does it's job as a deterrent.
Johnnytheboy said:
Having thought about it more on the way home:
1. Fear of crashing stops me driving too fast for the conditions
2. Fear of being caught stops me driving too far over the speed limit
Exactly. Not clear what the OP was getting at with the question because the answer depends entirely on the situation. I suspect 'fear of being caught' features so highly in the poll because many people are implicitly assuming the question was being asked in the context of conditions that would permit significantly exceeding the speed limit. But if that was the context, why would 'fear of crashing' even be an option?1. Fear of crashing stops me driving too fast for the conditions
2. Fear of being caught stops me driving too far over the speed limit
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