1M v Cayman R v Golf R400 v Megane 275

1M v Cayman R v Golf R400 v Megane 275

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Mouse1903

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839 posts

153 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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I'm thinking ahead to my next car. I've been lucky to get a new rotational job meaning no more rush hour commute and therefore fuel economy isn't so much of a worry wink I really love my little 500 Abarth Esseesse and not bored of it at all, but planning to change it probably 2016 as I will have had it 6 years from new. The 4 cars in the title are on the shortlist and have their different pro's and con's.

1M: Possibly joint best looking with the R400, fabulous noise, future classic
Cayman R: Proper drivers car, has the prestige
Golf R400: The ultimate all rounder with insane performance
275: The underdog, possibly the purists choice

Concerns with the 1M would be being able to afford 40k to buy one - are values going to continue to increase?

The Cayman R is kind of similar - will it end up with similar residuals as the 1M?

The R400 big con is - it isn't released yet. I wouldn't risk putting a deposit on one in case it is fast in a straight line but a disappointment to drive, but given the quality of the current R can it really be that bad? Also I'm assuming it will start at 40k which will become 45k with options, and will have good residuals?

Finally the 275 is probably the most realistic choice for me, 30k with options new so could pick up a 2nd hand one in 2016 for 24 - 26k? What I don't like about it is the facelift isn't as pretty as the 250/265 and the cabin is pretty uninspiring with the exception of the recaros. I'm swaying towards it the most though due to the rave reviews.

4 cars with some similarities and some differences, what would your pick be?

roystinho

3,767 posts

175 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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1M and Cayman probably won't depreciate, but can you afford one in the first place? I can't as I don't have £40k lying round, or else I'd have either in a heartbeat.

The 275 is a fantastic car, I love Renaultsports and had a fair few so as a cheaper alternative I think it's great, but it will carry on losing money I reckon compared to the above.

I have no opinion on the golf as don't know enough about it, but I think I'd have any of the other 3 before it. Massive power and 4WD isn't my bag really

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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Won't depreciate?

Is that the case if you are say putting on 20k plus miles a year? Or is it only the low miles examples

Mouse1903

Original Poster:

839 posts

153 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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Good point Welshbeef bringing up miles - I forgot to mention I would probably do no more than 4k miles a year

Tuvra

7,921 posts

225 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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Buy a new Focus RS smile

Welshbeef

49,633 posts

198 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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Why not a BMW E46 M3 CSL?

BugLebowski

1,033 posts

116 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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Im going to give you a typical helpful PH reply and suggest a car that isn't even on your shortlist:

997 Turbo, stock it will blow away everything on your list, a few upgrades it will blow away everything. 45k should buy you a decent one.

John D.

17,851 posts

209 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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When he's struggling to find 40k for a 1M? Need I mention running costs too?

Atmospheric

5,305 posts

208 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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Only one of those will not drive as well as expected. Guess which one?


Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

246 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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3 tarted up cheap cars

1 proper sportscar

All can be driven at the same speeds on the same roads. One will give real driving pleasure.

CarAbuser

695 posts

124 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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You really cant go wrong with either the 1M or Cayman.

The 1M will be a faster car and will hold its value a lot better.

Patrick Bateman

12,183 posts

174 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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Ozzie Osmond said:
3 tarted up cheap cars

1 proper sportscar

All can be driven at the same speeds on the same roads. One will give real driving pleasure.
'Tarted up cheap cars' can be some of the most fun around.

PaulD86

1,661 posts

126 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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Well I can only speak for the one of the four I own, the Cayman R, but having bought it 3 weeks ago having never driven one but having read many great things I was expecting it to be good and it has massively exceeded my expectations. It's fantastic! I've driven lots of Porsches from 911s to Boxters of various ages and this is my favourite to date (I'm sure a 911 GT3 could change that, but not for £40k) with it being, in my opinion, quite a bit sharper than the Cayman S' I'd been considering before I found the 'R'.

What's really surprised me is that I've enjoyed it while sat behind other cars on A and B roads - it's such a nice car to drive that I can enjoy driving it even at modest speeds, certainly not something I ever said of the Impreza I sold when I bought it (it was only any fun when driving flat out and had nothing of the poise, feel and balance of the Porsche).

Before I bought the 'R' I considered all sorts of things, not quite the same list as you but a 1M or M135i was on the list of possibles. I have zero regrets with my choice. The M135 I looked at was a lovely car, but the Cayman feels more special for me. And before I have Porsche fanboy accusations levelled at me, I was quite honestly not a Porsche fan until I experienced a few of my friends Porsches.

Try out your options and see what you like the feel of, but I doubt you'd regret a Cayman R. thumbup


Obligatory pic of car on epic driving road. smile

GrumpyTwig

3,354 posts

157 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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Just fyi you can get a new Megane 275 for 24k with options NOW, ignore the otr price Renault give it's utter tosh.

TA14

12,722 posts

258 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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Ozzie Osmond said:
3 tarted up cheap cars

1 proper sportscar
That's a bit harsh on the choice of words (you could have said three regular euroboxes tuned up and one sports car) but I agree with your point: out of that list there is only the P that stands out for an enthusiast (and I don't even like Porsches) but this is an odd thread as I think that the OP has made up his mind already:
Mouse1903 said:
1M: Possibly joint best looking ... fabulous noise, future classic
It also surprises me that people worry about the list/new price leading to the conclusion that they'd rather buy a car that they don't really want and sit in that (maybe for six years in the OP's case) than buy a one year old example of the car that they really want, after all that new car will be a one year old after one year.

Stevoox

367 posts

130 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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275 is the least but def up there in terms of performance

But perhaps im biased...


If you were going for a 275 then personally id have gone for a full spec'd Trophy R (yes...no rear seats blah blah....) but all 30 were sold on the first day of launch.

Out of the other 3, i think 1M would be my choice.

RobM77

35,349 posts

234 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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I would definitely consider two cars. My total spend on cars isn't far above £40k and I run two cars that excel at the things I want to do with them, rather than one car as a compromise in all situations. However, everyone's priorities are different and my requirements of long distance commuting and track driving are fairly diverse, so the OP may be better off with one car - it's worth suggesting the two car option though. For the record, if forced to buy one car for that budget I'd have an Evora S, but I suspect most people would prefer a 997 C2S or Cayman.

Raptor222

47 posts

133 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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Maybe this will add some influence to the OP's decision - hot off the press today:

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyI...


Butter Face

30,308 posts

160 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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GrumpyTwig said:
Just fyi you can get a new Megane 275 for 24k with options NOW, ignore the otr price Renault give it's utter tosh.
You can get a 3 month old ex-demo Trophy for £25k. Cough cough.

V8RX7

26,868 posts

263 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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Ozzie Osmond said:
3 tarted up cheap cars

1 proper sportscar
^^^This