Must Have The Best Car, As Young As Possible
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I'm 22. Havnt been in a club since April. Would consider myself very happy. I need a better paid job, but other than that everything I good.I have a very fun car and a proper motorbike.I could go out and drink every weekend. But come Monday id be £50 down and have nothing to show for it.Ive always owned my car outright. The bike is the first thing ive bought on credit. But thats an 18 month interest free card.How you spend you money is your own business, unless he's getting himself into trouble then your brothers business is none of yours.Just be please he's passionate about something.
Jader1973 said:
The same thing has happened with TVs and houses.
No more "save and buy what you can afford". Thanks to cheap credit and a "me, me, me" society people just jump in to a new car, a 4 bed detached house, and a 6 foot 3D TV in every room (At least they do in Aus).
Nobody actually owns anything anymore, except the banks.
global economic growth is based on people spending and borrowing more each year on the latest shiny baubleNo more "save and buy what you can afford". Thanks to cheap credit and a "me, me, me" society people just jump in to a new car, a 4 bed detached house, and a 6 foot 3D TV in every room (At least they do in Aus).
Nobody actually owns anything anymore, except the banks.
hence the politicians banging on about free the banks up to lend more
OP seems more intent on telling us about his situation now!
Either way, lessons only get learnt the hard way in most cases.
I wanted nice cars 10 years ago too, but couldn't afford them, and spent loads of wedge drinking, buying crap, etc. Sometimes I wish I'd been more sensible with that side of things.
Horses for courses. If doing something makes you happy and doesn't harm others around you, then go for it... When it stops making you happy, then stop it.
Either way, lessons only get learnt the hard way in most cases.
I wanted nice cars 10 years ago too, but couldn't afford them, and spent loads of wedge drinking, buying crap, etc. Sometimes I wish I'd been more sensible with that side of things.
Horses for courses. If doing something makes you happy and doesn't harm others around you, then go for it... When it stops making you happy, then stop it.
To me this is insanity, always in hock to a lease company / insurers / depreciation. The finance and insurance companies must be rubbing their hands together at the prospect of these people.
Another example of the 'have it now' culture of people wanting everything (on finance) and not wanting to wait or actually earn any actual money to buy it with...
Perhaps considering house prices they've just given up on ever owning thei own homes and have just decided to blow all their cash because mum and dad will provide them with free digs indefinitely??
In any case, when the roads are littered with nearly-new lease Audis, BMWs, VWs etc. who do they think is going to notice them, let alone be impressed?
Another example of the 'have it now' culture of people wanting everything (on finance) and not wanting to wait or actually earn any actual money to buy it with...
Perhaps considering house prices they've just given up on ever owning thei own homes and have just decided to blow all their cash because mum and dad will provide them with free digs indefinitely??
In any case, when the roads are littered with nearly-new lease Audis, BMWs, VWs etc. who do they think is going to notice them, let alone be impressed?
1Addicted said:
The thing is with him is that he will go and buy an M3 but, he won't use it to enjoy it in the normal sense such as some fantasic exploitation of some of our beautiful back roads or a race track. It will be purely a poser-mobile and the most it'll get wound up is probably a few twt-ish blats down a dual carriageway. I just don't understand the mentality of it really, having a car as your only luxury, unless it's for driving enjoyment; not driving through a town hoping that girls will drop their pants in queue for the local nightclub.
I know exactly what you mean. A distantly related teenager requested a quick blat out in the M3 when I had it and instead of wanting to feel what it was like down country roads, exiting roundabouts etc, he wanted me to drive down Guildford high street. 
Fox- said:
It's like threads on here.
Everyone is desperate to post how old they are in threads
'Yea I have an Audi A3 S-Line AND I AM ONLY 20, DID YOU HEAR THAT? I AM ONLY 20!!!!!!'.
Everyone is desperate to post how old they are in threads
'Yea I have an Audi A3 S-Line AND I AM ONLY 20, DID YOU HEAR THAT? I AM ONLY 20!!!!!!'.
I put my age in my E46 328i's Readers' Cars thread title three years ago. I didn't do it for the reasons this new generation of yoofs must have something brand new, shiny and financed, though - perhaps the opposite. I thought to mention it because I was thrilled to have found a car that I loved and was genuinely happy with, my fifth one and leagues ahead of the others, despite having very limited means and still being pretty young. In other words, I thought I had things figured out pretty nicely and was very happy with owning such a competent and enjoyable car so early in my driving career.
At a time when old schoolfriends were knocking about in brand new PCP Fiestas and suchlike with poxy little engines, people asking you how the hell you can afford a 2.8-litre BMW is quite amusing
In the years since, this developing culture has made it seem rather cringe to mention one's age, and I requested that it be removed. Hasn't been, though!
I'm surprised I haven't read a post saying "Mind your own business Brother,It's my money and I can do what I like with it" 
If he's watching a lot of car videos and into his cars then is he not a member of PH.
It's a difficult problem as when young you're easily influenced by what others have and want the same,but forget that you just have to except that some of your friends are in different positions from possible helpful parents.
A crashed my first car quite quickly(Volvo 164e) passed onto me by very helpful and kind parents and to learn my lesson they said I had to fund my own car.This was back in 1982 and rounded all my pennies up to buy a Simca 1100 when my friends were driving around in much better cars,crashing them but parents buying them replacements .Of course it hurt my pride but there was nothing I could do about the situation other than stop in and cut out my social life,but I never even gave that a thought and slowly the cars got better,then worse in some cases.
It still amazes me how I even managed to run a £350 Simca as I had an active social life and not earning much at all.
OP it's nice that you have concern for your Brother.
If he's watching a lot of car videos and into his cars then is he not a member of PH.
It's a difficult problem as when young you're easily influenced by what others have and want the same,but forget that you just have to except that some of your friends are in different positions from possible helpful parents.
A crashed my first car quite quickly(Volvo 164e) passed onto me by very helpful and kind parents and to learn my lesson they said I had to fund my own car.This was back in 1982 and rounded all my pennies up to buy a Simca 1100 when my friends were driving around in much better cars,crashing them but parents buying them replacements .Of course it hurt my pride but there was nothing I could do about the situation other than stop in and cut out my social life,but I never even gave that a thought and slowly the cars got better,then worse in some cases.
It still amazes me how I even managed to run a £350 Simca as I had an active social life and not earning much at all.
OP it's nice that you have concern for your Brother.
I tend to assume the opposite of what is intended when I see new cars. Mostly because the wealthiest man I know uses a 1996 MX-5 as his daily hack, and the lower earners I know mostly drive cooking-spec Audis or BMWs on finance.
My nephew (16) has a very similar outlook to the OP's Brother, and it's a constant source of frustration to my Brother and I. Refreshingly though, a friend of mine's 18 year old Brother recently bought a 1990 Nissan Sunny and could not be more excited about it - he's now saving for a Mercedes 190E.
My nephew (16) has a very similar outlook to the OP's Brother, and it's a constant source of frustration to my Brother and I. Refreshingly though, a friend of mine's 18 year old Brother recently bought a 1990 Nissan Sunny and could not be more excited about it - he's now saving for a Mercedes 190E.
Don't be too hard on your brother,he will see the light in the end.
My first car was a trusty 1.0L Micra in White with Tan interior back in the early nineties, used to get to my first job happy days.
When he gets a little older he will get over himself and look back and laugh.
You are allowed to be a wally and have fun at his age.
Sorry but I can't help but refer to my age... when I started work thirty years ago my new boss gave me some advice that he said was equally relevant to girls and cars and may well have stood the test of time, simply, "You'll have more fun putting a few dents in some old bangers first before investing heavily in a good one".
As for using a car to impress a girl, I don't recall having a meaningful relationship based on being referred to as a "flash b
d" by the blokes and the lack of need to rely on public transport...
As for using a car to impress a girl, I don't recall having a meaningful relationship based on being referred to as a "flash b
d" by the blokes and the lack of need to rely on public transport...SuperchargedVR6 said:
It's no different to when I grew up in the early 90s. A mate near enough bankrupted himself buying a 2 year old RS Turbo and also needed a second loan for the £2.5K insurance, which was 3rd party only. Needless to say, he crashed it and was still paying off a car he no longer owned (and it's insurance) some 5 years later.
It's just the latest generation of young male peacocking. They have the same hair cuts - shaven sides with a massive bouffant on top, they go to the gym and over develop their upper bodies, they have to be seen wearing the latest branded clothing and seen in the best cars. Seen it all before.
Yup.... a funny article I read a few months back goes into this trend in detail.It's just the latest generation of young male peacocking. They have the same hair cuts - shaven sides with a massive bouffant on top, they go to the gym and over develop their upper bodies, they have to be seen wearing the latest branded clothing and seen in the best cars. Seen it all before.
http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/anatomy-of-a-new-mo...
A healthy interest in cars is good.
An obsession with having a new car, just as a status symbol is not.
If I was prepared to spend £20k on a car (buy whatever means) I sure as st would not be looking at a brand new euro-box.
Shiny and new = success innit
Some old BMW? It's not even the latest model bruv!
Having a passion for cars is different to having a passion for new bling.
An obsession with having a new car, just as a status symbol is not.
If I was prepared to spend £20k on a car (buy whatever means) I sure as s
t would not be looking at a brand new euro-box. Shiny and new = success innit
Some old BMW? It's not even the latest model bruv!
Having a passion for cars is different to having a passion for new bling.
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