RE: Shed Of The Week: MG ZT
Discussion
confused_buyer said:
only1ian said:
No just no! It will never be a classic, the rover 75 maybe, but MG ZT versions are parts bin desperation specials. Fitted in a style that was reminiscent of a ram raid on Halfords in the max power era. Urgh
Works for BMW and Audi with Sport/M Sport and S-Line though so perhaps the only problem is that MGR were 5 years ahead of the game.Edited by only1ian on Friday 19th December 09:35
All the others did horrible "off road" super minis after the, erm, interesting 25 thing MGR did.
To add balance think the 75 was lovely and have a soft spot for MG TF's both of which look the part and are quintessentially British. So not a badge snob or anti mg rover just realistic in that the later products and this shed aren't particularly good and by dumbing down and trying to appeal to a younger market lost brand credibility. Quality sells and lasts unlike a rover k series engine ;-) sorry
Edited by only1ian on Monday 22 December 04:42
Escort Si-130 said:
The typical DRY recycled Halfords joke from Clarkson about 15+ years ago. You must be really impressed with yourself.
At least I added to the debate on the car in question not sure what your comment does?only1ian said:
No just no! It will never be a classic, the rover 75 maybe, but MG ZT versions are parts bin desperation specials. Fitted in a style that was reminiscent of a ram raid on Halfords in the max power era. Urgh
Edited by only1ian on Friday 19th December 09:35
only1ian said:
At least I added to the debate on the car in question not sure what your comment does?
Don't knock the 200 / 25 range..this was the car that probably kept rover afloat for many years..Yes the streetwise was a parts bin special and actually a poorer drive than a std 25 for it..But it merely followed the fashion at the time…The Polo Fox soft roader and many other urban countryfied cars were made in the same vein those days.. What can't be argued is the 25 and 200 diesels prowess at being one of the best ever diesels in its class..I have covered nearly 3/4 million mikes in these things and I feel poorer that they are just getting too long in the tooth to have these days..My current steed is a 1.2Tdi Polo, generally slower but bought for economy…The Rover had fantastic 2.0 Turbo diesel performance in a small package and would do 65 to the gallon back in 97!!!Its always the people who have never driven one that knock them…Fantastic cars in their day.
The 75 getting back on track was similarly a lovely place to be , the slush box in the 2.0 KV6 let it down somewhat but as a nice cruiser you can;t really buy much better for the cost….
Of course a Vag product is better….Generally twice the price though…I drive that other sporting Marque today but I am not so blinkered that I don't recognise a brilliant car in the little 200 Rover.
Look at my profile pic…not many cars could be bought for £750 and pressed into service doing over 1000 miles per week…week in and week out..That pic was taken just before she made the trip to the scrapper with 200k on the clock. She never failed to get me where I needed to be..
Anhow..back on topic….
This was my 75…Not many cars look as good for £1000
Edited by Dollyman1850 on Monday 22 December 09:04
Keep on slagging 'em. This is great - it means when I need a replacement for my ZT-T 190, they'll still be cheap as chips.
The most unreliable part of mine so far has been the stereo system. That (including the wiring) was a straight lift from the E46 BMW - ah yes, the Germans and their super reliability and build. I love the noise of the engine and how it surprises folk.
The most unreliable part of mine so far has been the stereo system. That (including the wiring) was a straight lift from the E46 BMW - ah yes, the Germans and their super reliability and build. I love the noise of the engine and how it surprises folk.
V8forweekends said:
Keep on slagging 'em. This is great - it means when I need a replacement for my ZT-T 190, they'll still be cheap as chips.
The most unreliable part of mine so far has been the stereo system. That (including the wiring) was a straight lift from the E46 BMW - ah yes, the Germans and their super reliability and build. I love the noise of the engine and how it surprises folk.
Repairs / maintenance aside, the stereo (well, headunit) would probably be the first thing I replaced. - They're all going to be obsolete now & I haven't used CDs for years. What is going to be a problem is in c10 years is these non-standard, non-replaceable ICE systems in new cars (the crappy fake iPad screens etc.). They'll date the whole interior as if a Windows 98 laptop was sat in the dash.The most unreliable part of mine so far has been the stereo system. That (including the wiring) was a straight lift from the E46 BMW - ah yes, the Germans and their super reliability and build. I love the noise of the engine and how it surprises folk.
sjc said:
Wasn't that for sale on here some time back,I seem to remember it?
Yes. I bought it from a good mate who's dad in law had it from new. I replaced the only 75 achilles heel…the rear suspension arms then sold it with the wheels for £1400…I just wasn't using it enough to justify keeping it….They are much maligned but lovely cars.I am sure it is giving sterling service to its current owner.
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Fantastic shed. I love the old MGR cars and have owned a few.
Ive had the head gasket replaced on most of em but that isnt exactly a big job.
Equally as good but equally as derided is what could be considered the ZT replacement - the MG6, which I have had the pleasure of driving recently.
You can pick these up for around £6K now too.
Ive had the head gasket replaced on most of em but that isnt exactly a big job.
Equally as good but equally as derided is what could be considered the ZT replacement - the MG6, which I have had the pleasure of driving recently.
You can pick these up for around £6K now too.
I had 3 of these...started off with a red zt 120...which was fun , then replaced that with a zt-t 160 turbo with was a little bit quicker and had a great load space..then was lucky enough to get a zt 260 lhd which I loved .... kept the v8 for 3 years ....
zt-t as used for le mans ...
zt as used for le mans...
zt-t as used for le mans ...
zt as used for le mans...
Blib said:
Chris71 said:
...... a real proportionality.......
Enough of that. We should arrange another "Not in North London, North London" meet. I want to show you my 964.
Yes, we must. And you have a 964, now? Was the Stratos not rear-engined enough for you?
(best colour combined with the one upgrade that I'd carry out on a 260).only1ian said:
confused_buyer said:
only1ian said:
No just no! It will never be a classic, the rover 75 maybe, but MG ZT versions are parts bin desperation specials. Fitted in a style that was reminiscent of a ram raid on Halfords in the max power era. Urgh
Works for BMW and Audi with Sport/M Sport and S-Line though so perhaps the only problem is that MGR were 5 years ahead of the game.Edited by only1ian on Friday 19th December 09:35
All the others did horrible "off road" super minis after the, erm, interesting 25 thing MGR did.
To add balance think the 75 was lovely and have a soft spot for MG TF's both of which look the part and are quintessentially British. So not a badge snob or anti mg rover just realistic in that the later products and this shed aren't particularly good and by dumbing down and trying to appeal to a younger market lost brand credibility. Quality sells and lasts unlike a rover k series engine ;-) sorry
Edited by only1ian on Monday 22 December 04:42
St John Smythe said:
The ZT is a very sorted car actually. I was surprised how well it handled (and that's compared to the other cars I have owned). It certainly wasn't just 'parts bin desperation' as you so eloquently put it.
Indeed. The tweaks that made a sporting MG out of a wafting Rover were numerous and very well considered, showing that there was ample engineering talent about at MGR at the time. I was at the press launch of the Z-cars back in 2001 and it was obvious the people behind the project were proper petrolheads. What they achieved working with not very much was little short of a miracle, especially considering how often the Germans have got it wrong (although I suspect the S-Line, M-Sport etc. badges are purely marketing led with very little in the way of actual engineering). Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff