Seriously Overpriced Cars

[Fun Bus]

You might not but others would. I'd say it's worth more than £5k but certainly not worth what Hexagon think it is.

[M11 MFP]

How about plates from this company.

http://www.supercarplates.com/numbers/

A little LUX 112Y ? £99,950

Or some hand REL 13F £12,950

Some moronic pseud also provides a gushing commentry on each in turn, which is mildly amusing.

[jamiebae]

p1stonhead said:

ambuletz said:

Fast Bug said:

....unless you want something to polish and look at

you'd polish and look at something desirable, those don't really fit the bill

p1stonhead said:

With the 330ci above all I can think of is that someone was so rich that they sort of forgot they had it tucked away and were normally using their other cars. It's not like anyone would have bought such a car with the plan to try and keep it's value.

also, it would seem like maybe it's owned by someone rich with several cars that just never used these to drive. but once sold on who would ever buy it? if you're rich enough you'll buy yourself a brand new car, not pay way too much for one of the older less-desirable models that have many on the market. even if it was someone who LOVED the e46 cabrio and came into a position to have lots of money and wear heavy tinted nostalgia glasses they would be able to buy a mint/concourse condition one for more then half the price of what hexagon has it for.

Do hexagon buy it and then sell on or could they be selling it for someone? If it's the latter it could be an old chap just being insistent that he paid £30k for it and never used it so that's what he wanted it sold at.

If it's the former then it's just ridiculous.

I suspect that every BMW dealer in the country has their number and when they get a mint low mileage car in trade in they call Hexagon who pay top dollar but expect a really strong margin when they sell it on. One benefit of older and low mileage stock is that it doesn't really depreciate while it's on the forecourt so as long as you can finance the vehicles cheaply enough you can afford to sit on them for a while while you wait for a buyer.

[C70R]

p1stonhead said:

nct001 said:

p1stonhead said:

I wouldn't pay more than £5k for it and that's really pushing it; probably more 3 or 4. It's a mass market model and 13 years old.

9,000 miles in 13 years isn't a positive for me. It's basically been sitting in a garage for its whole life.

Clearly it IS worth far more than £5k that is obvious and as for £3k that wouldn't buy you a facelift 330 cab manual anywhere and if it did it would horrible.

You asked me what I'd pay for it.

It may be worth more to other people but even £10k is laughable to me.

That's all fine and well, but your opinion flies in the face of the market for these cars. So it's like arguing you think that black is white, "because... well... you know, it's like my opinion, man".

While the 330 Sport isn't a particularly special car (I should know, I've had two), it's also hardly a run-of-the mill 318. It's a good car for those who like the E46 (one of the BMW's better efforts) and don't want/need the hassle or performance of the M3 (the 330 itself is hardly shabby, if not super-quick).

The market for them is pretty buoyant, with a median for good cars in the £3.5-4k neck of the woods - good later cars are commonly seen in the £6-7k range. As the other poster says, there's plenty to make this a desirable car when combined (facelift, spec, manual, convertible, super-low mileage), so pricing in the £10k+ region is absolutely not ridiculous in context of the overall market. £20k is silly, but I doubt that many punters pay Hexagon's screen prices.

[p1stonhead]

C70R said:

p1stonhead said:

nct001 said:

p1stonhead said:

I wouldn't pay more than £5k for it and that's really pushing it; probably more 3 or 4. It's a mass market model and 13 years old.

9,000 miles in 13 years isn't a positive for me. It's basically been sitting in a garage for its whole life.

Clearly it IS worth far more than £5k that is obvious and as for £3k that wouldn't buy you a facelift 330 cab manual anywhere and if it did it would horrible.

You asked me what I'd pay for it.

It may be worth more to other people but even £10k is laughable to me.

That's all fine and well, but your opinion flies in the face of the market for these cars. So it's like arguing you think that black is white, "because... well... you know, it's like my opinion, man".

While the 330 Sport isn't a particularly special car (I should know, I've had two), it's also hardly a run-of-the mill 318. It's a good car for those who like the E46 (one of the BMW's better efforts) and don't want/need the hassle or performance of the M3 (the 330 itself is hardly shabby, if not super-quick).

The market for them is pretty buoyant, with a median for good cars in the £3.5-4k neck of the woods - good later cars are commonly seen in the £6-7k range. As the other poster says, there's plenty to make this a desirable car when combined (facelift, spec, manual, convertible, super-low mileage), so pricing in the £10k+ region is absolutely not ridiculous in context of the overall market. £20k is silly, but I doubt that many punters pay Hexagon's screen prices.

I was asked my opinion. It doesn't matter if it flies in the face of anything. HTH

[lowdrag]

Slightly off topic, but I have just been looking at a car for sale and one of the bull points made is that it:-

"Has not been washed in my ownership".

Please discuss.

[C70R]

p1stonhead said:

C70R said:

p1stonhead said:

nct001 said:

p1stonhead said:

I wouldn't pay more than £5k for it and that's really pushing it; probably more 3 or 4. It's a mass market model and 13 years old.

9,000 miles in 13 years isn't a positive for me. It's basically been sitting in a garage for its whole life.

Clearly it IS worth far more than £5k that is obvious and as for £3k that wouldn't buy you a facelift 330 cab manual anywhere and if it did it would horrible.

You asked me what I'd pay for it.

It may be worth more to other people but even £10k is laughable to me.

That's all fine and well, but your opinion flies in the face of the market for these cars. So it's like arguing you think that black is white, "because... well... you know, it's like my opinion, man".

While the 330 Sport isn't a particularly special car (I should know, I've had two), it's also hardly a run-of-the mill 318. It's a good car for those who like the E46 (one of the BMW's better efforts) and don't want/need the hassle or performance of the M3 (the 330 itself is hardly shabby, if not super-quick).

The market for them is pretty buoyant, with a median for good cars in the £3.5-4k neck of the woods - good later cars are commonly seen in the £6-7k range. As the other poster says, there's plenty to make this a desirable car when combined (facelift, spec, manual, convertible, super-low mileage), so pricing in the £10k+ region is absolutely not ridiculous in context of the overall market. £20k is silly, but I doubt that many punters pay Hexagon's screen prices.

I was asked my opinion. It doesn't matter if it flies in the face of anything. HTH

But instead of saying "fair enough, that's my opinion" (like normal people), you've gone off banging on about how the majority opinion (i.e. the market) is "laughable" etc.

[JakeT]

Nobody has dragged a grit filled sponge over it on a Sunday morning? Although I would rather that as dirt holds moisture, which in turn leads to rust.

[p1stonhead]

C70R said:

p1stonhead said:

C70R said:

p1stonhead said:

nct001 said:

p1stonhead said:

I wouldn't pay more than £5k for it and that's really pushing it; probably more 3 or 4. It's a mass market model and 13 years old.

9,000 miles in 13 years isn't a positive for me. It's basically been sitting in a garage for its whole life.

Clearly it IS worth far more than £5k that is obvious and as for £3k that wouldn't buy you a facelift 330 cab manual anywhere and if it did it would horrible.

You asked me what I'd pay for it.

It may be worth more to other people but even £10k is laughable to me.

That's all fine and well, but your opinion flies in the face of the market for these cars. So it's like arguing you think that black is white, "because... well... you know, it's like my opinion, man".

While the 330 Sport isn't a particularly special car (I should know, I've had two), it's also hardly a run-of-the mill 318. It's a good car for those who like the E46 (one of the BMW's better efforts) and don't want/need the hassle or performance of the M3 (the 330 itself is hardly shabby, if not super-quick).

The market for them is pretty buoyant, with a median for good cars in the £3.5-4k neck of the woods - good later cars are commonly seen in the £6-7k range. As the other poster says, there's plenty to make this a desirable car when combined (facelift, spec, manual, convertible, super-low mileage), so pricing in the £10k+ region is absolutely not ridiculous in context of the overall market. £20k is silly, but I doubt that many punters pay Hexagon's screen prices.

I was asked my opinion. It doesn't matter if it flies in the face of anything. HTH

But instead of saying "fair enough, that's my opinion" (like normal people), you've gone off banging on about how the majority opinion (i.e. the market) is "laughable" etc.

I said 'laughable to me'.

Can you read?

[Uncle John]

lowdrag said:

Slightly off topic, but I have just been looking at a car for sale and one of the bull points made is that it:-

"Has not been washed in my ownership".

Please discuss.

So is the car filthy then, or just been kept in a garage and not moved?

Bit of a weird one for me. If it said "Never been to the 'supermarket swirls are us' car wash but been washed by myself using the correct methods" then that paints a better picture.

[nct001]

p1stonhead said:

nct001 said:

p1stonhead said:

I wouldn't pay more than £5k for it and that's really pushing it; probably more 3 or 4. It's a mass market model and 13 years old.

9,000 miles in 13 years isn't a positive for me. It's basically been sitting in a garage for its whole life.

Clearly it IS worth far more than £5k that is obvious and as for £3k that wouldn't buy you a facelift 330 cab manual anywhere and if it did it would horrible.

You asked me what I'd pay for it.

It may be worth more to other people but even £10k is laughable to me.

I actually asked what would you VALUE it at.

[robinessex]

Has anyone actually any knowledge of someone who HAS paid an over the top price? And what their motive was? I’ve seen top priced cars on PH and Auto trader. They eventually disappear, so did they get their magic figure, or what did they actually sell for? If a I see a car say at £15,000, when the realistic value is say £10,000, what response you get if you offer that?

[lowdrag]

Will let you know this weekend!

[quoteunquote_sir_]

Uncle John said:

If it said "Never been to the 'supermarket swirls are us' car wash but been washed by myself using the correct methods" then that paints a better picture.

The incorrect use of a reflexive pronoun paints a picture of a third rate regional estate agent to grammar nazis, to be honest.

[robinessex]

Mugello blue RS6, 29k miles. £24.995

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/a...

[itcaptainslow]

robinessex said:

Mugello blue RS6, 29k miles. £24.995

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/a...

Good God that is nice though. Layer Cake fantasies and She Sells Sanctuary going through my head. I want it.

[anonymous-user]

robinessex said:

Mugello blue RS6, 29k miles. £24.995

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/a...

Not too bad as
a) sought after
B) rare
c) genuine peformance model
d) clean and low miles


Hexagon would be pricing that at £50,000

[silverthorn2151]

Am I missing something but is this really worth £80k now?

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/p...

I know screen price doesn't mean sold price but are people really paying that sort of money

[speedtwelve]

Seems the crazy current prices of Integrales are having a halo effect on some of Lancia's, err, lesser products.

£4k for this??? I didn't even know these existed. Looks like a Delta with a boot. Probably quite a niche market for this car, comprising precisely no-one. It reminds me of my old Delta HF Turbo. The alcantara trim so thin that light shone through it, the comedy 'which fuse will explode today?' electrics.... And the rust. Ohhhhhh.... the rust.



http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2016...

[Fox-]

jamiebae said:

I suspect that every BMW dealer in the country has their number and when they get a mint low mileage car in trade in they call Hexagon who pay top dollar but expect a really strong margin when they sell it on. One benefit of older and low mileage stock is that it doesn't really depreciate while it's on the forecourt so as long as you can finance the vehicles cheaply enough you can afford to sit on them for a while while you wait for a buyer.

But who buys them? I sort of get the appeal of the collectible almost-no-mileage M cars, perhaps, but what about stuff like this?

https://hexagonclassics.com/cars/bmw-535d-se-touri...

Who on earth wants an 8 year old diesel E61 SE for the price of an F11, a better car in every way?