VW COST PRICE

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TVR1

5,463 posts

225 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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Vacationboy said:
TVR1 said:
Vacationboy said:
I have no idea what you are on about tbh, or what relevance it has to this topic.
Well, in a previous thread you started, you are suggesting you purchased a Special Mercedes at a huge discount and that you are the font of all knowledge in regards to discounts.-and gave this purchase as an example of your cunning and guile.

However, in your wisdom, you didn't spot that the car you purchased has neither the correct wheels nor badging. Furthermore, unfortunately that chassis number doesn't appear on the Merc records as an S70. mistakes do happen, of course so I wont say 100% that it's wrong.

On the balance of probabilities though, you've been mugged.

So perhaps best to not give wisdom or advice on topics you have no real world experience of.
Jesus christ, this isnt the place for this - why didnt you write this in my thread?


So if my car is a fake, I guess the welded Mercedes plaquet is a fake?




this one fake too then?




The wheels are different because this is a newer model with newer wheels, its a 98 model as opposed to the 96-97 with different wheels.
I have already received all the paperwork and it checked out, even rang AMG in Germany and they confirmed it.
Mugged? Sure...Jog on mate.


Edited by Vacationboy on Friday 19th December 21:56
Chassis number is wrong. You're posting pictures that you recieved from the seller. Post up when the car arrives and il'll eat my words. I however, have found a video of your car in Japan. It isnt an S70.

northandy

3,496 posts

221 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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TVR1 said:
why not ask to see the invoice?

Rather than inventing a fantasy in your own mind.
I'm not buying a VW that's why.




yellowbentines

5,312 posts

207 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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And thats how to single handedly, aggressively, derail a thread.

Well done.

Vacationboy

171 posts

113 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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TVR1 said:
Chassis number is wrong. You're posting pictures that you recieved from the seller. Post up when the car arrives and il'll eat my words. I however, have found a video of your car in Japan. It isnt an S70.
You are in a sense right, it isnt an S70. Its a S600L 7.0. But people usually call it S70 smile Got a link to the video? smile


Edited by Vacationboy on Friday 19th December 22:58

Sheepshanks

32,725 posts

119 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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yellowbentines said:
And thats how to single handedly, aggressively, derail a thread.

Well done.
It's quite impressive that TVR1 managed to break nearly all of the hallowed Posting Rules in one go.

Vacationboy

171 posts

113 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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I would perhaps be a tad more worried had I not already received all the paperwork by DHL express, complete with AMG leather books and paperwork, which clearly states engine volume 7.05L in the reg card.
Perhaps they faked that too : - )

Nice derail slagging off my car though, hat doffed.

Wills2

22,785 posts

175 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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Sheepshanks said:
yellowbentines said:
And thats how to single handedly, aggressively, derail a thread.

Well done.
It's quite impressive that TVR1 managed to break nearly all of the hallowed Posting Rules in one go.
Don't you just love Pistonheads, where the world can see grown men as they truly are....hehe

Vacationboy

171 posts

113 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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Really impressive tongue out

Wills2

22,785 posts

175 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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Vacationboy said:
Really impressive tongue out
BTW I hope your car is lovely and you enjoy it!


Vacationboy

171 posts

113 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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Haha thanks, the merc is still on the boat though, another month smile

Sheepshanks

32,725 posts

119 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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GoneAnon said:
I have to admit that I'm tired of providing information, test drives, demonstrators, service facilities etc for people who choose to buy from bedroom brokers with no overheads in order to save a bit of cash and who then wonder why my courtesy cars are always available to go to MY customers first and not to them!
According to a car salesman in a similar recent thread, brokers don't sell cars.

Sheepshanks

32,725 posts

119 months

Friday 19th December 2014
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loskie said:
http://www.lookers.co.uk/volkswagen/offers/the-eve...


What will they claim cost price to be? I know there will be bonuses outside of the margin for units sold etc etc. And yes I agree the dealers do need to make money but any idea what cost will be claimed as?
I notice they used the past tense indicating that they've paid for the cars. As that's not normal practice (dealer usually pay on registration) I'll bet this only applies to cars they've had in inventory for a long time, or bought as PAC cars.

I also think it's deceptive to pretend that cost price means much. Rebates / bonuses etc produce most of dealers profit - the upfront margin is close to irrelevant. On most cars it's all but given away anyway.


After_Shock

8,751 posts

220 months

Saturday 20th December 2014
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Sheepshanks said:
I also think it's deceptive to pretend that cost price means much. Rebates / bonuses etc produce most of dealers profit - the upfront margin is close to irrelevant.
If a dealer receives and invoice for a vehicle from the manufacturer showing how much they have paid for the car how is it deceptive?

Is it reasonable to insist on the dealer also giving the rebate/bonus money that they might not in fact receive at the end of a quarter when someone may well be buying a car in the first month of that quarter.

s3fella

10,524 posts

187 months

Saturday 20th December 2014
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Such events are quite common and usually genuine, but the margin saved may not be quite a much as you'd think. Truth is, margin on initial sale bread and butter new cars is very low, will be more on VW than say, Peugeot I'd imagine, but around d 5 to 10 percent margin is negotiable in most cases, talking generally.

So that s the sort of figure you could get off what you may normally be able to buy for imho.

But as was eluded to earlier, it's year end, and dealers are on retained audited margins and volume bonuses. So this will be an incentive to sell 'at cost' and pick up profit from finance and doc fees, as well as maybe maximising a retrospective margin on cars sold this year.

I've not read the speiel as I can't open the link, but I'd imagine you need to register it this year prior to 31st December?

Anyway, I'd think it genuine, and a genuine opportunity to save a few quid if you're looking for a new vw. But be prepared for the hard sell in finance, service plans, dealer fit accessories etc, as this will boost their profits too.

After_Shock

8,751 posts

220 months

Saturday 20th December 2014
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s3fella said:


Anyway, I'd think it genuine, and a genuine opportunity to save a few quid if you're looking for a new vw. But be prepared for the hard sell in finance, service plans, dealer fit accessories etc, as this will boost their profits too.
The way some people go on about these things they will want all of the profit of these items discounting without actually purchasing any of them!!

Northernchimp

1,282 posts

132 months

Saturday 20th December 2014
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Their stock clearance deals look far more tempting than a few percent off a new car. This 64 plate Passat looks like a proper bargain...

http://www.lookers.co.uk/volkswagen/used-cars/hot-...

Sharted

2,624 posts

143 months

Saturday 20th December 2014
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Northernchimp said:
Their stock clearance deals look far more tempting than a few percent off a new car. This 64 plate Passat looks like a proper bargain...

http://www.lookers.co.uk/volkswagen/used-cars/hot-...
I paid half that for a 1 year old - exact same spec too.

Northernchimp

1,282 posts

132 months

Saturday 20th December 2014
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Seems hard to believe, what was the mileage?

After_Shock

8,751 posts

220 months

Saturday 20th December 2014
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Northernchimp said:
Seems hard to believe, what was the mileage?
Mileage - Unknown
Cat D

GoneAnon

1,703 posts

152 months

Saturday 20th December 2014
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Sheepshanks said:
GoneAnon said:
I have to admit that I'm tired of providing information, test drives, demonstrators, service facilities etc for people who choose to buy from bedroom brokers with no overheads in order to save a bit of cash and who then wonder why my courtesy cars are always available to go to MY customers first and not to them!
According to a car salesman in a similar recent thread, brokers don't sell cars.
Correct. They let the dealers do the work but they take the profit.