What technology are we still waiting for ?
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p1esk said:
Do we really believe that driverless cars will have a better safety record than driven cars?
Eventually...yes, definitely.And I don't think you will have the option to drive yourself at the expense of a big insurance bill; you just wouldn't be allowed full stop as you would be putting peoples' lives at risk.
Depressing but I'm sure it's a fair way off still and there'll always be trackdays.
Clivey said:
p1esk said:
If that does prove to be the case, I wonder how long it will last.
Do we really believe that driverless cars will have a better safety record than driven cars?
Honestly; yes. Even the early ones (Google etc.) have pretty much perfect record so far AFAIK.Do we really believe that driverless cars will have a better safety record than driven cars?
xRIEx said:
Clivey said:
p1esk said:
If that does prove to be the case, I wonder how long it will last.
Do we really believe that driverless cars will have a better safety record than driven cars?
Honestly; yes. Even the early ones (Google etc.) have pretty much perfect record so far AFAIK.Do we really believe that driverless cars will have a better safety record than driven cars?
It will be a while before its mainstream, however its starting to creep in now. Teslas now come with autopilot which will keep you in lane, stop when the car ahead stops, and will read and obey speed limits.
rovermorris999 said:
Cheap, high-capacity batteries for electric cars. Until we do, electric cars are literally not going very far.
I can design an electric car to be fully charged in minutes. The current designs are all based on the assumption that it is, somehow, impossible to do what is done on any other battery powered device.The solution is laughably simple, it seems as if there is a powerful lobby somewhere insisting on doing it in a way that virtually rules out electric cars. Any way, here it is, you notice the batteries are low, you drive onto a garage forecourt, an automatic system disconnects your discharged battery pack and plugs in a fully recharged pack from an underground carousel, you pay and drive off while the batteries you just left behind go onto the recharge end of the carousel to be ready for another customer in several hours time.
Why do we assume that you need to charge the batteries for hours, overnight, why? Is that how you deal with a TV remote or a torch? Do you sit there waiting for the batteries to recharge or do you fit new ones in seconds? Do you wake up in the morning and think how your life would be better if you owned outright, instead of leasing, a lead acid battery?
So the next time someone implies that the recharge time for batteries is some kind of problem for an electric car just tell them it isn't, it is perfectly possible to give an electric car a full charge, from zero, in minutes.
Craikeybaby said:
ZX10R NIN said:
Not sure but I'll find out the phone plugs into the system via a USB in the glove box then everything pops up on the screen I was given it by a Pioneer Rep it's released in the UK end of Jan 2015 it'sa great bit of kit.
Lucky you! It's probably the Android version of CarPlay then, I just wasn't aware of any having been launched, it turns out they haven't then!cymtriks said:
I can design an electric car to be fully charged in minutes. The current designs are all based on the assumption that it is, somehow, impossible to do what is done on any other battery powered device.
The solution is laughably simple, it seems as if there is a powerful lobby somewhere insisting on doing it in a way that virtually rules out electric cars. Any way, here it is, you notice the batteries are low, you drive onto a garage forecourt, an automatic system disconnects your discharged battery pack and plugs in a fully recharged pack from an underground carousel, you pay and drive off while the batteries you just left behind go onto the recharge end of the carousel to be ready for another customer in several hours time.
Why do we assume that you need to charge the batteries for hours, overnight, why? Is that how you deal with a TV remote or a torch? Do you sit there waiting for the batteries to recharge or do you fit new ones in seconds? Do you wake up in the morning and think how your life would be better if you owned outright, instead of leasing, a lead acid battery?
So the next time someone implies that the recharge time for batteries is some kind of problem for an electric car just tell them it isn't, it is perfectly possible to give an electric car a full charge, from zero, in minutes.
Which is what elon musk/tesla has been trying to do for a while. Sends to have gone quiet on it now so I assume for some reason it is a no go for now.The solution is laughably simple, it seems as if there is a powerful lobby somewhere insisting on doing it in a way that virtually rules out electric cars. Any way, here it is, you notice the batteries are low, you drive onto a garage forecourt, an automatic system disconnects your discharged battery pack and plugs in a fully recharged pack from an underground carousel, you pay and drive off while the batteries you just left behind go onto the recharge end of the carousel to be ready for another customer in several hours time.
Why do we assume that you need to charge the batteries for hours, overnight, why? Is that how you deal with a TV remote or a torch? Do you sit there waiting for the batteries to recharge or do you fit new ones in seconds? Do you wake up in the morning and think how your life would be better if you owned outright, instead of leasing, a lead acid battery?
So the next time someone implies that the recharge time for batteries is some kind of problem for an electric car just tell them it isn't, it is perfectly possible to give an electric car a full charge, from zero, in minutes.
Edited by budgie smuggler on Saturday 27th December 22:59
How many cars refuel at your local petrol station daily? How long it takes for a battery to charge? Now how many batteries do they have to store in there for everyone to get one replaced? Bonus question: how big an electric line they need to simultaneously charge the 100+ batteries they store?
There are reasons why battery replacement stations aren't deployed massively.
There are reasons why battery replacement stations aren't deployed massively.
dmitry said:
How many cars refuel at your local petrol station daily? How long it takes for a battery to charge? Now how many batteries do they have to store in there for everyone to get one replaced? Bonus question: how big an electric line they need to simultaneously charge the 100+ batteries they store?
There are reasons why battery replacement stations aren't deployed massively.
This, and the requirement for all manufacturers to agree a design which is difficult if not impossible as it would stifle design and development. Then along comes another and better battery design that makes the previous investment redundant. There are reasons why battery replacement stations aren't deployed massively.
budgie smuggler said:
cymtriks said:
I can design an electric car to be fully charged in minutes. The current designs are all based on the assumption that it is, somehow, impossible to do what is done on any other battery powered device.
The solution is laughably simple, it seems as if there is a powerful lobby somewhere insisting on doing it in a way that virtually rules out electric cars. Any way, here it is, you notice the batteries are low, you drive onto a garage forecourt, an automatic system disconnects your discharged battery pack and plugs in a fully recharged pack from an underground carousel, you pay and drive off while the batteries you just left behind go onto the recharge end of the carousel to be ready for another customer in several hours time.
Why do we assume that you need to charge the batteries for hours, overnight, why? Is that how you deal with a TV remote or a torch? Do you sit there waiting for the batteries to recharge or do you fit new ones in seconds? Do you wake up in the morning and think how your life would be better if you owned outright, instead of leasing, a lead acid battery?
So the next time someone implies that the recharge time for batteries is some kind of problem for an electric car just tell them it isn't, it is perfectly possible to give an electric car a full charge, from zero, in minutes.
Which is what elon musk/tesla has been trying to do for a while. Sends to have gone quiet on it now so I assume for some reason it is a no go for now.The solution is laughably simple, it seems as if there is a powerful lobby somewhere insisting on doing it in a way that virtually rules out electric cars. Any way, here it is, you notice the batteries are low, you drive onto a garage forecourt, an automatic system disconnects your discharged battery pack and plugs in a fully recharged pack from an underground carousel, you pay and drive off while the batteries you just left behind go onto the recharge end of the carousel to be ready for another customer in several hours time.
Why do we assume that you need to charge the batteries for hours, overnight, why? Is that how you deal with a TV remote or a torch? Do you sit there waiting for the batteries to recharge or do you fit new ones in seconds? Do you wake up in the morning and think how your life would be better if you owned outright, instead of leasing, a lead acid battery?
So the next time someone implies that the recharge time for batteries is some kind of problem for an electric car just tell them it isn't, it is perfectly possible to give an electric car a full charge, from zero, in minutes.
Edited by budgie smuggler on Saturday 27th December 22:59
dmitry said:
How many cars refuel at your local petrol station daily? How long it takes for a battery to charge? Now how many batteries do they have to store in there for everyone to get one replaced? Bonus question: how big an electric line they need to simultaneously charge the 100+ batteries they store?
There are reasons why battery replacement stations aren't deployed massively.
About the same as those that will charge real time. You're assuming that people will want to drive to a station for a battery swap over charging at home. If I could stick a small petrol line onto my car at home, and have it full by the next morning, then thats what I would do.There are reasons why battery replacement stations aren't deployed massively.
To put it another way if somone started a local business fast charging or battery swapping mobile phones in minutes, would you bother usinging daily, weekly etc if you can simply achive the same thing by slow charging at your own home overnight?
Battery swap/supercharging will be for long journeys or when you really need a quick refil.
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