Planning department want me to take down a carport !!!
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wonderwebb said:
Leptons said:
wonderwebb said:
garage 2260mm wide car 1943mm wide id have to drive in with roof down and climb out ! recipe for disaster the way i reverse.
Right, so you have 150+ mm a side. Park close to the left wall, put carpet on the right hand wall so you don't damage your door and stop being a retard.Unless you're very fat of course.
Munter said:
Because UK society involves certain norms. That's what makes the UK a nicer place to live than a lot of the world. Part of those norms are not building ugly crap in front of your house without giving your neighbours chance to object (within the rules).
UK society is not "I'll do whatever I want", it's about doing what is reasonable. That "construction" in front of that house in that street is not reasonable.
Well said, end of discussion.UK society is not "I'll do whatever I want", it's about doing what is reasonable. That "construction" in front of that house in that street is not reasonable.
Munter said:
So you can still drive through into the space behind the garage if you put another door in the other side. Then put the carport out back as suggested before.
Did you/has anyone looked at the OP's original picture. All the 'extended' ropey? looking rooflines over/behind the eyesore make that a pretty much no goer option?
Do they have planning or BR approval ??
DKS said:
Showed this to the wife and we both agreed it looks pretty well built and well done on the OP for trying to protect his P&J. Don't think its an eyesore at all.
Just goes to show how different we all are I suppose!
Exactly. Just goes to show how different we all are I suppose!
Oh, by the way, I forgot to ask how the move into the new Caravan site went? Did you go with the Periwinkle Blue in the end?
Let's be clear it doesn't look aesthetically pleasing - I've seen many oak structures which are stunning (none plonked in front of the house directly tractor trail wrong the garage ).
Does it have plastic sheeting on the roof or is it "big six" ? What about the joints? Not but end hopefully... How deep are those posts into the ground? Should be 2 foot on an 8 foot post these are more so that must have been some deep digging on the drive ... Or have you just placed them but end onto the block paving....
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I still think OP is taking pics of someone else's house and he himself cannot understand why someone would do such a monstrosity.
Does it have plastic sheeting on the roof or is it "big six" ? What about the joints? Not but end hopefully... How deep are those posts into the ground? Should be 2 foot on an 8 foot post these are more so that must have been some deep digging on the drive ... Or have you just placed them but end onto the block paving....
. I still think OP is taking pics of someone else's house and he himself cannot understand why someone would do such a monstrosity.
Tbh, I sympathise with the OP, but it does look a bit of an eyesore and I would be pretty annoyed if I lived next door to him.
I have always understood building anything (other than a small porch) in front of the front elevation is going to end in tears once the local council find out........
I have always understood building anything (other than a small porch) in front of the front elevation is going to end in tears once the local council find out........
I love the suggestions to "appeal".
Appeal against what? He's not had planning rejected, so he can't appeal against that decision.
There was no decision required on the "Has he built without PP?" question - so nothing to appeal - it's a simple tick-list. He has.
He can appeal, sure, if his retrospective planning application is turned down (as it will be). But it'll be lobbing good money after bad.
Appeal against what? He's not had planning rejected, so he can't appeal against that decision.
There was no decision required on the "Has he built without PP?" question - so nothing to appeal - it's a simple tick-list. He has.
He can appeal, sure, if his retrospective planning application is turned down (as it will be). But it'll be lobbing good money after bad.
ATTAK Z said:
Having read this thread from end to end it appears to me that most posters think that the OP has a sh!te car, under a sh!te carport, tagged onto the front of a sh!te garage built onto a sh!te house in a sh!te area ...
... I could be wrong though
I have no opinion on any of that, but can see why the neighbours wouldn't like what was built without planning.... I could be wrong though
If I had decided to do that I would have spoken to the neighbours first.
ETA apologies if O/P did. If you didn't, you were asking for trouble.
Edited by GetCarter on Sunday 21st December 15:21
TooMany2cvs said:
I love the suggestions to "appeal".
Appeal against what?
We don't know what form the correspondence from his LPA has taken so far. Appeal against what?
It's quite possible that they've already served an Enforcement Notice, in which case he needs to appeal against that directly - you don't submit a separate retrospective application in such an instance; you pay the appropriate fee, and the Appeals Inspectorate judges the appeal and, if it is upheld, grants you Planning Permission at the same time, all as a single process.
If, so far, they've only written him a polite letter, then the Enforcements Notice is only a brief matter of time...
Either way, an appeal will ultimately be the route he has to take if he wants to string things out, but the end result is inevitable, I'm afraid - there's not an Appeals Inspector alive who would support him.
MintSprint said:
We don't know what form the correspondence from his LPA has taken so far.
It's quite possible that they've already served an Enforcement Notice, in which case he needs to appeal against that directly - you don't submit a separate retrospective application in such an instance; you pay the appropriate fee, and the Appeals Inspectorate judges the appeal and, if it is upheld, grants you Planning Permission at the same time, all as a single process.
If, so far, they've only written him a polite letter, then the Enforcements Notice is only a brief matter of time...
Either way, an appeal will ultimately be the route he has to take if he wants to string things out, but the end result is inevitable, I'm afraid - there's not an Appeals Inspector alive who would support him.
If you look at the original question 9 pages ago i was asking about wether the same rules applied those folding garages and gazeebos . Never for 1 minute thought id have a case. I read the planning portal and got it wrong . Just wanted to know if the folding garages and gazeebos fell under same criteria.It's quite possible that they've already served an Enforcement Notice, in which case he needs to appeal against that directly - you don't submit a separate retrospective application in such an instance; you pay the appropriate fee, and the Appeals Inspectorate judges the appeal and, if it is upheld, grants you Planning Permission at the same time, all as a single process.
If, so far, they've only written him a polite letter, then the Enforcements Notice is only a brief matter of time...
Either way, an appeal will ultimately be the route he has to take if he wants to string things out, but the end result is inevitable, I'm afraid - there's not an Appeals Inspector alive who would support him.
looks like the idea of pushing it in to the garage is probaly best idea so far.
Wonder web, the spirit of being neighbourly and the spirit of the rules is the key thing. Perhaps you could put up a Moroccan tent, an old motor home or put your structure on wheels but the whole point is that that isn't within the spirit.
I'd be upset if that was next door to my house.
If you can drive through your garage and have it opening wider at the back that would be a solution.
You could rent a lock up on a commercial estate or something.
I love your car but the carport is terrible.
I'd be upset if that was next door to my house.
If you can drive through your garage and have it opening wider at the back that would be a solution.
You could rent a lock up on a commercial estate or something.
I love your car but the carport is terrible.
Amusing how the most innocuous of topics can bring out the very worst in people, or my innate b
hiness, not sure which. It's a couple of poles and a plastic sheet for God's sake. My opposite neighbour has remodelled the front of her house entirely. The people next door have constructed an extension and built a shed in the garden suitable to house the Starship Enterprise. We all get on with each other. Therefore the answer seems to be to move out of the horribly pretentious end of the commuter belt to the more accepting, enjoyably down at heel climes of the Essex Riviera. Or not. Surrey - yeechh!
However it's clear the carport constructor is a working class person. Therefore all he does is contemptible - including attempts at building work. His dog is working class, his car is working class. American? Perish the thought. Dropped kerbs, paved over gardens. I know, the barbarians have taken over. I'd imagine he's got a massive television on a thirty year repayment Brighthouse contract, brown leather sofas and, whisper it, laminated flooring. It's absolutely disgusting really, working class people flashing money about, trampling on our dearly held social ideals and conventions. I don't think he should have a car at all. Instead he should have to walk everywhere, perhaps in front of one of the gentry to open doors for them. He should have to apologise to all those who vicariously took offence to, well, nothing at all.
Having said that he lives in a working class area. So why do you care?
hiness, not sure which. It's a couple of poles and a plastic sheet for God's sake. My opposite neighbour has remodelled the front of her house entirely. The people next door have constructed an extension and built a shed in the garden suitable to house the Starship Enterprise. We all get on with each other. Therefore the answer seems to be to move out of the horribly pretentious end of the commuter belt to the more accepting, enjoyably down at heel climes of the Essex Riviera. Or not. Surrey - yeechh! However it's clear the carport constructor is a working class person. Therefore all he does is contemptible - including attempts at building work. His dog is working class, his car is working class. American? Perish the thought. Dropped kerbs, paved over gardens. I know, the barbarians have taken over. I'd imagine he's got a massive television on a thirty year repayment Brighthouse contract, brown leather sofas and, whisper it, laminated flooring. It's absolutely disgusting really, working class people flashing money about, trampling on our dearly held social ideals and conventions. I don't think he should have a car at all. Instead he should have to walk everywhere, perhaps in front of one of the gentry to open doors for them. He should have to apologise to all those who vicariously took offence to, well, nothing at all.
Having said that he lives in a working class area. So why do you care?
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