Hoegh Osaka - what was on board?

Hoegh Osaka - what was on board?

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Scuffers

20,887 posts

274 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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interesting video on BBC:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-310...

surprised at them looking just fine being driven off the ship?

must have been well tied down not to have all piled up on one side?

stuart313

740 posts

113 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Although they have a few dints which can be repaired in most cases, what about the oil and water in them lying at such an angle for so long.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

274 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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stuart313 said:
Although they have a few dints which can be repaired in most cases, what about the oil and water in them lying at such an angle for so long.
if you mean the usual fluids in the cars? probably nothing.

by the looks of the pics, none look like they have any sea water damage?

t400ble

1,804 posts

121 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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stuart313 said:
Although they have a few dints which can be repaired in most cases, what about the oil and water in them lying at such an angle for so long.
Errr, nothing?

Northernchimp

1,282 posts

132 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Bet they crush them, Mazda Did when the Cougar Ace rolled over. I can't see them running the risk of having them on the road.

Depends on the insurance status of the cargo I suppose.

RobinBanks

17,540 posts

179 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Wasn't that both a more severe accident and a less valuable cargo?

loskie

5,212 posts

120 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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they will be assessed as any new car that is damaged in transit (as many are) and if economical will be repaired.Madness to scrap them.

Northernchimp

1,282 posts

132 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Yes to both, but they were both hung sideways on a stricken ship so the logic for crushing them is probably the same. Some were a bit damaged, but a lot of the Mazdas were totally unscathed.

Sensibleboy

1,143 posts

125 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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How long were the Mazdas on board that ship for?

M4cruiser

3,624 posts

150 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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One way round it would be to register them, therefore they become "used" cars, and sell them on with the warranty cancelled.

But I'm not sure who owns them at the moment - ?Insurance company?


Lugy

830 posts

183 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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I came across this a while back; http://www.autoblog.com/2008/01/14/over-370-bmws-b...
With a bit luck the cars on the Hoegh Osaka will have the same fate and not just scrapped.
FWIW, I'd happily have something from it.

ging84

8,892 posts

146 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Reading that article, the list was greater, and the time was longer for the mazdas.
One of the main issues for them seems to be centred around battery acid leaking out of the battery and causing damage, i suspect almost all the cars on this ship had gel batteries which should not have the same issues.

Marcellus

7,119 posts

219 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Theres photos starting to appear of the cars being off loaded!

Northernchimp

1,282 posts

132 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Did those customers affected have another car built or were they told to wait for the one on the ship to be assessed? If they were all rebuilt and these go on the market as used it'll do nothing for used prices. I wouldn't want a car off there if I'd ordered it new and paid full list. As a 30% off used car I think I could live with it.

CraigyMc

16,394 posts

236 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Marcellus said:
Theres photos starting to appear of the cars being off loaded!
There's also video posted earlier today...

KarlMac

4,480 posts

141 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Will keep an eye out for loads of Cat C/D Evokes coming through auctions laugh

sebhaque

6,404 posts

181 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Just thinking here - would the manufacturer (in this case, JLR) not claim a nominal fee per car on their insurance and then buy back/salvage what they could from the insurers? For arguments sake, if there were 100 Evoques on the Osaka, JLR were paid £2.5m for the entire shipment, could a surveyor on behalf of JLR investigate the condition of the insurance-owned cars and buy back those that weren't in too bad nick? Some could be delivered/resold, some could be cannibalised, and the rest would be written off on insurance.

I'm just speculating.

JD661

7 posts

117 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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I'm guessing the same thing will happen as it did to all those Alfa Romeos that were on that ship to Australia a few years ago. The ship caught fire, the whole shipment was written off but the cars weren't recorded on the vcar register as it was before they were registered and it went through a maritime insurer. Then the Alfas that could be easily repaired or weren't damaged were shipped to the UK as they were RHD and sold through auctions as new cars, most of which were picked up and then sold by independent Alfa specialists or car supermarkets at a massive discount over new prices. Thats why there's a load of 06 plate pre-facelft 156s about. A similar thing also happened in a later Alfa Romeo shipment to Malaysia which is why there is also a load of 57 plate 156s about. I'm guessing the same thing will happen in this situation.

Transiter

257 posts

113 months

Wednesday 28th January 2015
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M4cruiser said:
One way round it would be to register them, therefore they become "used" cars, and sell them on with the warranty cancelled.

But I'm not sure who owns them at the moment - ?Insurance company?
How will they be able to cancel the warranty? Surely if something ends up being wrong with the car the buyer can still have it repaired under consumer rights.

Edited by Transiter on Wednesday 28th January 00:16

ging84

8,892 posts

146 months

Wednesday 28th January 2015
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Manufacturers in a situation will want them sold at full price, or not at all, if they are sold of cheap, they cannibalise their own sales